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PrintableI wished Prince would deliver a rock album like C&D...I am getting sick of the funk vibe of Musicology and 3121 | |
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LittleSmedley said: Did anyone else feel totally cheated when he brought this out? I lost interest in Prince for years after this, after having idolized the man for years. I'm a fan again now. But then, it was obvious that record company politics came before the fans. I was gutted that he would foist this pile of crap on us.
Are there any big fans of this album on the forum? Maybe it was the first one u bought (my god, the only way was up for these fans). Hell NO!!!!! This CD kicks ass. |
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NWF said: Forgive the harshness of this comment but are you fucking kidding me?
This is one of the best and most underrated albums of Prince's career, and I will forever defend its importance. 
There weren't that many songs that rocked like "I Like It There" or had sweet pop sensibilities like "Dinner With Delores" or had the simplistic charm of "Had U". That album, along with the first time view of UTCM, made my summer of '96! 
[Edited 4/2/07 10:50am] I agree with most of your points (though not on my top 15 list!). The great element of this album is that you can tell it was recorded quickly and it doesn't suffer from the overproduction of a lot of his 90's work. It has a grungy, punk sensibility that reminds of a less funky, revolutionary or compositionally brilliant Dirty Mind. | |
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I'm curious what the real recording process was for this album. I know he's said it was recorded quickly but weren't some of the tracks originally included on early versions of Gold and the aborted "The Dawn" 3 CD set? Or were those tracks re-recorded specifically for this disc? | |
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 I love it | |
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theodore said: I love it me too! Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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MikeMatronik said: I wished Prince would deliver a rock album like C&D...I am getting sick of the funk vibe of Musicology and 3121
I love it. And I hear u mike. When I 1st got the album, judging by the cover I thought it'd b a let down, but listening to it, I liked it straight away. It's a little rough but What of it? It's a rock album. I prefer it to 3121. I'd like the next album more jazzy, and certainly less pefect pop. | |
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paisley16 said: theodore said: I love it me too!  | |
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Worst Album Ever. | |
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masbas said: Worst Album Ever.
Sorry, that title is already taken.  Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/ |
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theodore said: paisley16 said: me too!  
theo will 4ever be my C&D buddy
to all the haters of this album....."where I come from we don't let society tell us how its supposed to be" ....to each their own, right?
Now, I could go off and start a "still pissed off about Rave thread"....  Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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Excellent album very different from any other album. He really challanged his fan base with Chaos and Disorder. It's heavy in hard rock, and even country. I think it was done as a fuck you to WB because he knew that they would no be able to promote him with a hard rock/ country album. Of course with that, many of his fans where turned off by the album, since it was not the Prince they knew and loved but something much different. | |
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P2daP said: Excellent album very different from any other album. He really challanged his fan base with Chaos and Disorder. It's heavy in hard rock, and even country. I think it was done as a fuck you to WB because he knew that they would no be able to promote him with a hard rock/ country album. Of course with that, many of his fans where turned off by the album, since it was not the Prince they knew and loved but something much different.
Hard rock, yes. But Country??? I disagree- please tell me where you hear country??? Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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Personally I think this is one of the more interesting additions to the Prince catalog. Song writing aside - due to the circumstances behind it we will never hear anything so raw and unrefined from him again. Most recently when listening to this disc I couldn't help but think how much better the studio version of "Purple House" would have been if it were recorded and mixed the same way. "You've got a million dollar smile, but you can't buy time...
When you're running away, and you're a step behind..." ~Maxx | |
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paisley16 said: theodore said:
theo will 4ever be my C&D buddy
to all the haters of this album....."where I come from we don't let society tell us how its supposed to be" ....to each their own, right?
Now, I could go off and start a "still pissed off about Rave thread"....
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paisley16 said: Hard rock, yes. But Country??? I disagree- please tell me where you hear country??? Right The Wrong... which, really, is less country and more broadway showtune. | |
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paisley16 said: P2daP said: Excellent album very different from any other album. He really challanged his fan base with Chaos and Disorder. It's heavy in hard rock, and even country. I think it was done as a fuck you to WB because he knew that they would no be able to promote him with a hard rock/ country album. Of course with that, many of his fans where turned off by the album, since it was not the Prince they knew and loved but something much different.
Hard rock, yes. But Country??? I disagree- please tell me where you hear country??? Most noted in "Right The Wrong" but imo. "Same December" even Zannalee" have an heavy country sound to them. | |
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Oh yeah, and how can we forget "Into The Light" which segues into "I Will".
BRILLIANT! FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!  NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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jtfolden said: paisley16 said: Hard rock, yes. But Country??? I disagree- please tell me where you hear country??? Right The Wrong... which, really, is less country and more broadway showtune. Actually...on the showtune tip, it has more of a "Waiting for Guffman" quality about it. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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coolcat said: It would have been great if he'd left out the horns and keyboards.
I pretty much agree with that. I don't mind either, but they did definitely clutter up some of the tracks on this one. Still, I've grown to love almost every song on this one. Even "Right the Wrong" which is just plain WEIRD, even for Prince. [Edited 4/3/07 8:24am] | |
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It's so interesting how different tastes people have.
IMO, Chaos and Disorder is a great album filled with spite and love. Although I could live without "Right the Wrong". The album is definitely more exciting and interesting than, say, Musicology. There are some true masterpieces on it. [Edited 4/3/07 7:56am] | |
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Genesia said: The album is not without its flaws -- I find a a couple of the songs on here truly cringe-worthy. (Right the Wrong makes me wanna hurl.) But it definitely has its redeeming elements -- Zannalee, I Like It There, Into the Light.
Me too, I HATE that song.   RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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VenusBlingBling said: It's so interesting how different tastes people have.
The album is definitely more exciting and interesting than, say, Musicology. Absolutely. The songs have charm and identity. Right the Wrong, for all its failings, has more personality than Jam Of The Year, Right Back Here in My Arms, Somebody's Somebody, and Get Yo Groove On all put together. Emancipation was more "perfect" but Chaos' flaws were part of the appeal. It had energy & humanity that a lot of Prince's later music lacked. My Legacy
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Genesia said: NDRU said: I've always defended this album. Politics were part of it, but I really believe he made it as good as he could.
I've always believed the disclaimer on the album was meant to draw Dirty Mind comparisons--like Prince was saying, I'm so great even my demos are amazing. I think it has a great energy and a great flow. Of course Right the Wrong hurts it badly. Too bad she didn't bury that song along with her grandpa.  RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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NWF said: Oh yeah, and how can we forget "Into The Light" which segues into "I Will".
BRILLIANT! FUCKING BRILLIANT!!! Those are my two favorite tracks off the whole album,  them!RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Prince has the best contractual obligation CDs ever made. | |
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P2daP said: paisley16 said: Hard rock, yes. But Country??? I disagree- please tell me where you hear country??? Most noted in "Right The Wrong" but imo. "Same December" even Zannalee" have an heavy country sound to them. Zannalee is straight-up basic- very basic- blues IMO, and not the southern rock kind either. I don't feel the country vibe in Same December at all, I hate country but love that song. and of course, this is just my opinion. Right the Wrong- I don't think that song is easily categorized at all, but that may be why so many dislike it so much. I can take it or leave it myself. Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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LittleSmedley said: Did anyone else feel totally cheated when he brought this out? I lost interest in Prince for years after this, after having idolized the man for years. I'm a fan again now. But then, it was obvious that record company politics came before the fans. I was gutted that he would foist this pile of crap on us.
Are there any big fans of this album on the forum? Maybe it was the first one u bought (my god, the only way was up for these fans). Pissed? Did you notice the cover of the record? The big azz bootprint crushing the Prince record and the pee splash in the snow on top of it? I dont think he was real enthused about that job either. [Edited 4/3/07 18:58pm] | |
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JonnyApplesauce said: LittleSmedley said: Did anyone else feel totally cheated when he brought this out? I lost interest in Prince for years after this, after having idolized the man for years. I'm a fan again now. But then, it was obvious that record company politics came before the fans. I was gutted that he would foist this pile of crap on us.
Are there any big fans of this album on the forum? Maybe it was the first one u bought (my god, the only way was up for these fans). Pissed? Did you notice the cover of the record? The big azz bootprint crushing the Prince record and the pee splash in the snow on top of it? I dont think he was real enthused about that job either. [Edited 4/3/07 18:58pm] I just took a look at the CD cover after reading your post. Did you notice that on the back of CD it looks like there's blood on there? RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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