Genesia said:

Interesting theory about solar output - I'll have to do some research. It's sounds plausible; no more or less plausible than greenhouse gases/global warming.

If that is true, I do believe that we are still damaging the planet by our activities. If it became known that higher-than-normal solar output was to blame, I would still expect society to adjust as necessary.

Either way you look at it, decreased emissions, recycling, and lower energy usage benefits everyone . . .

lovemachine said:

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You don't even fucking know Prince. You have no idea if he is in to environment movement. Don't even get started on this road.

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Why don't we all just wait and see if he does the concert or not.

Also - google "The Great Global Warming Swindle" and read the other side of the story.

lovemachine said:

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They existed they just never destroyed a black community and the government sat back and did noting to assist. If you don't know how global warming played into the Katrina situation you need help.

girl66 said:

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You taking information from the Washington Times. (WTF)

Since I tend to pull most of 'em out of my ass,
many of my posts are biodegradable.
[Edited 3/31/07 15:02pm]

Se7en said:

havent you heard that the sun is getting hotter and this is in the last couple of decades. durning the last ice age the sun got cooler.The suns temp goes up ans down (something too do with sun spots and the suns magnetic field) on a time scale which has no meaning to us (not in a person lifetime)

always look on the bigger picture before you call some one ignorant

so what type of car do you drive?

well, this topic obviously belongs in P & R as there is very little Prince going on here.....that being said, here's my
Anyone who doesn't want to believe the facts about global warning are simply fooling themselves IMO. All you have to do is step outside to know it exists. The hardest things for people to see and understand are sometimes those things right in front of our faces.
For a few years now, I've had conversations with people about how the weathermen haven't been able to predict the weather as well as they used to. Even with all types of new technology. It's just silly to allow this to be turned into a political issue where people fall on whichever side their preferred party belongs. My BF is in general a Republican. I'm generally a raging Democrat. On this issue, we agree and both are equally concerned for our son's future on this planet.

oldpurple said:

Read my last post

Se7en said:

sorry about that didnt see it

we are seeing the same thing but from a differant point yep your right about the planet be pollutted by man, global warming could be a natural thing, before you jump down my throat I said could, I think this needs more to be looked into, but man hasnt helped the situation what can we do ?

stop driving cars,flying in planes move away from fossal fuels? the only answer is we need a more green fuel, If they could make nuclear power more safer than thats an option.

I dont drive or own a car and dont want to, I travel by public transport or by foot Iam lucky enough to work local to where I live but thats me. I know people will need to drive so more cars that are green friendly please!!!

Oh man. This is going to end up in P&R isn't it?

It's just one concert. I don't see how it will make or break anything, whether he does it or not.

laurarichardson said:

Google "The Great Global Warming Swindle" Seriously!

Se7en said:

Hey, I don't have a problem with reduce, re-use, recycle...reducing energy consumption, etc. I think those things are a great idea -- and I practice them. When I buy milk, I buy it in glass bottles, pay a deposit, and take them back after I drink the contents. I try to buy food that is produced locally. (I'm successful about 8 months out of the year -- but the cold climate makes it hard in the dead of winter.) I don't buy manufactured foods. I have an energy efficient washer and dryer, and I only wash full loads. I drive a fuel efficient vehicle and keep it in good repair.

I do all this voluntarily because I think it's the right thing to do. But I don't agree with mandates that these things be done -- especially when the playing field isn't level and when nature will always trump human effort.

Thanks for your very civil and reasonable reply, by the way. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss something without being maligned personally.

girl66 said:

google oh i dunno.....the weather.

Milty said:

Never mind it's not even worth it anymore.
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girl66 said:

People have a lot of trouble understanding that weather and climate are two entirely different things. Just because it's hot outside today doesn't mean the earth is warming, in general.

My boss's boss tried to tell me the other day that it can get too cold to snow where we live. I pointed out to him that it snows in Antarctica (where it's a damn sight colder than where we live), but he just wouldn't be persuaded.

I have a minor in meteorology from one of the best atmospheric science programs in the US -- and people with no study whatsoever want to insult and blow me off. I get a kick out of it, actually. I usually don't tell them my background, either. I just let them embarrass themselves.

Genesia said:

Genesia, I'm not trying to be argumentative with this question, I don't have a minor in Meteorology, so I'd really like to know.

Doesn't whether or not the temp is "cold" enough for snow also have to do with altitude, distance from the equator, humidity, wind factors, and history of weather patterns in the region?

laurarichardson said:

What difference does the colour of the community make? Have you accidentally posted on the wrong thread? Did you mean to post on the "Are Hurricanes Racist?" thread?

paisley16 said:

Okay...well...I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. You're talking about "cold enough to snow" and I was talking about "too cold to snow," which are completely different things.

For example, it can snow even when the temperature is above freezing -- provided the dewpoint is below freezing. And it can snow even if the temperature is extremely cold (in Antarctica, for example) -- provided the atmosphere can still hold precipitable water and there is a mechanism for its release.

Latitude and altitude have an influence on whether it can snow in a certain place, of course. But they don't have anything to do with whether, in a place where snow is possible, it would ever be too cold to snow.

wouldnt it just be great to see Prince play? Anywhere?

Prince will probably be doing his own concern about the same time as the Live Earth concert. Partly, because he can...and second because he wouldn't want to work with Gore since his wife had protested against his music years ago.

trc1 wants Prince

"On March 23, 2007, it was reported that Prince is set to play on the massive Live Earth concerts set to take place across the globe on July 7th 2007."

This was on his Wikipedia page ... Yes I know it isn't 100% up to par, so relax.

I am only shaing what I found...

peace

so now USA Today is going with this rumor? they have this silly JT vs. Prince poll up and mention that Prince "is widely believed" to be headlining Live Earth.
http://www.usatoday.com/l...phic_N.htm

prime said:

Damn.....dont do it P! Al Gore is a JOKE!!!!!

girl66 said:

Thing is, Prince now is fairly well alligned with Tipper Gore's concerns about explicit lyrics. He may even look back and be glad for her protests.

paisley16 said:

Prince is still leading...is there going to be anything posted...winner / loser...something?

Milty said:

okay okay- so i thought abt it and i take back what I said. there- now i don't feel so guilty.