For me it all started going wrong the moment LG popped up and I know LG influence on Prince has been debated on many previous occasion with people both for and against but it is hard to ignore the unfortunate change in Princes musical output during this period!

But with LG seemingly a distant memory and his cryptic performance at the SuperBowl does this mean that Prince has woken up and smelt the coffee is he coming back!

Don't get me wrong there where some positive moments during this period The Rainbow Children for example although I did not completely dig the religious nature of the album I appreciated it for the music!

But lets be honest both Musicology & 3121 are hardly masterpieces and those who think they are have either never listened to Sign of the Times or controversially COME or unfortunately they are just kidding themselves!

Someone else on the forum has asked the simple yet poignant question: D&P or the Twins!

So Far its D&P by a mile and to me that says it all!
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Prince's recent 'return to form' is mostly based on his live performances, which have always been fantastic but recently at least the USA has sat up and taken more notice. But on studio album, he has yet to deliver to the high level he used to be capable of, Larry Graham or not. Anyway, LG is still a friend of Prince's and has appeared at the 3121 club, and Prince is still very much of the JW persuasion, so nothing that radical has really changed there.

AWJ said:

Lokks like you returned to form a couple of times yourself.

I think P's studio albums haven't really fallen off through the years. P's just been around awhile. At times he has fallen behind trends, maybe fallen into bad studio habits. But that's about it. It's funny: I remember hearing people say in 1984 that Prince had lost his touch!! Fans of the "Prince" record didn't dig "Dirty Mind" and so on. His music is just so eclectic and changes so rapidly, that most people can't keep up. If you are a fan of one record chances are you didn't dig the next and vice versa. In the late 90's he began to reexamine his personal life. Maybe music was not the only important thing in his life anymore. But don't hate on LG and 3121 is DEFINITELY a classic!

Illustrator said:

Sorry I am a bit of a pervectionist!

I look at his studio efforts as appetizers at times with the live performance the main course. His music has a quality to it that I require. A musician can impress me lyrically, vocally, instrumentally, or with their delivery. Prince had consistently done all of the above in one way or the other and I appreciate his effort. I look forward to him continuing to offer his gift to us. But for those who think he can do better I understand your sentiment....its all locked away in a vault.

Please give us some examples of how it "started going wrong". I don't know what you a specifically talking about. His albums? His live shows? His lack of using the f word?


You call the Superbowl performance cryptic? Really? Check out Prince's rant during his 1985 tour? Or during the years...that is cryptic. The Superbowl was about as straight down the line as you'll ever see Prince.



Which is ironic, because the driving force behind that album was Prince's spirituality that was ignited by studying with LG.




A lot of appreciation for Prince's music seems to be subject to revisionist history. I remember when Come was released it was severely HATED ON. Now it's etching it's way to becoming a well loved Prince album. I just find it funny how Prince albums become more loved with age.




So Prince's choice in eye candy/dancers indicates his need to, in your words, "return to form"?
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Opinions are like A holes, everybody's got one!

It appears that Prince is about 2 change course once again. Do u listen 2 his NAACP comments? R we about 2 hear the REAL follow up 2 The Rainbow Children?
I wonder.....U?

Mother EARTH is Calling.....

Graycap23 said:

That may be true, but will he actually release it ? I think theres already plenty of follow-ups to TRC , but they havent been released.

origmnd said:

That's the million dollar QUESTION. It looks like what ever WAS on the table is now OFF the table. At least 2 me.
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AWJ said:

Illustrator said:

lmao

Graycap23 said:

Please God NOOOOO!!!!

Illustrator said:

LMFAO

wlcm2thdwn said:

skywalker said:

I agree with some of this.

I remember COME was hated on.


But I also remember when I was first getting into Prince and I owned PR, AWTWIAD, and UTCM/Parade, my friend's mom was a huge Prince fan and said that the "new stuff" was an extreme departure from his old stuff. She went on to say that after Contreversy, he started veering away from formula more than she liked.

Boy what would she say today?

adorable2 said:

Why do people want Prince to do the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again ?


What's get to what people are really saying. I want Prince to purple rain again and follow that album with purple rain, and the next with purple rain, and then the one after that should be purple rain.



It's not even just Prince fans. Its fan's of every single artist. Well some of the fans... Just the same thing over and over and over and over again.

shaedove99 said:

The org just may be the greatest show on earth!

adorable2 said:

The org exists to show how some fans became twisted when they combine their own unique sensiblity with Prince's world.

origmnd said:

Why "Purple Rain"? Prince had much better albums before that one.

i agree with whoever said that D & P have NO PLACE in a discussion about whether or not Prince has ret'd to form. i enjoy Prince because he keeps me guessing, throwing curveballs, the constant being great musicianship. because i've learned to dismiss my expectations, i enjoy each album differently, some more than others, but all are enjoyed, even if in part. why enslave someone who epitomizes creativity to one's own preference of what we'd want them to be. sure the wikipedia's of the world will freeze him in an artistic zenith with PR, but we should know better. imho, P's musical legacy will be his diverse unpredictability.

vainandy said:

Agreed, 1999 is much better than PR . . . edgier, funkier, darker, etc.

Se7en said:

But what about relativity?
In this forum, are we just gonna completely throw out Einstein's theory that are all things are relative to the perceptions of the perceptor?

Illustrator said:

That's how I feel. People get real passionate in regards to what they believe is the best, the worst, etc. but I feel that it's all relative. Some love For You, some think it's ok, some think PR is the best ever, some think SOTT is better, I like 3121 for the moment for what it is & some act like they would rather flush it... it's whatever man. I'm impatiently waiting to see what else he does.

Illustrator said:

pwned