Bewdy said:

you'll be back

If you turn your back on the org , we'll eat you alive

i've thought about this many times...Prince almost lost me completely after i bought The Rainbow Children and then after i heard Guitar i came close to saying "no more!" but what i've learned from being a fan since 1984 Prince will always be in your blood and there's no way you can't resist hearing something new from him

Imago said:

Thats just VILE!!

thekidsgirl said:

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FruitToAttractBears said:

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was curious to see it

thought this site was for prince fans not prince haters..who seem to pop up on this site often.

khemseraph said:

Remember being in elementary school, when a boy liked a girl but instead of telling her so, he'd throws rocks at her or push her down in the mud, just to get her attention? That's what we've got going on here.

They love Prince so much it hurts! They just don't how to express that...so they hate on him instead.

khemseraph said:

I don't think there's anybody on this site who hates Prince - but I'm sure there are plenty of people who are disappointed with his recent output, or at least don't believe that every last thing this guy does is a work of staggering genius.

I myself used to believe the guy shat gold, but then I mellowed out a lot and now I'm at the point where I can get quite upset when faced with such a lazy pile of dross as 3121 - but at the same time I understand perfectly Prince is going to produce whatever he wants to produce. It's no use me complaining that he's not writing stuff like Dream Factory any more - if I want that sort of stuff, I have to stop whining and just go back and listen to the old records.

Despite that I'll always be searching the 'net for news on the little fella, and getting stupidly excited when a new album comes out - but if the new album's no good, I'll just put it to one side and dive into Sign O The Times once again!

Abrazo said:

This is the Org. There is no such thing.

lezama said:

Ok Darlene

2elijah said:

You would not say this if you had ever been a JW. Sure, he still puts out great stuff. But the religion is a cult. They brainwash you. I know of what I speak. I was raised in it from 2 years old. Prince has always been spiritual to me. Searching. Because of his mother, he chose this road. They use subtle techniques to stifle any true creativity you may have. Prince gets away with doing what he does because he's famous. The average JW would never be allowed to do what he does.

I do get angry, even though I know he has chosen this. Because I have been a Prince fan since the beginning, and I have always respected his search for truth. I feel that he is betraying his true self...betraying his music...by being a part of a religion that is the biggest lie of all.

Stymie said:

I bet there is a lot of fams from the closed "lifetime memberclub" that are reacting their frustrations about little man off on the honest fans, who just say when something is shit.

noimageatall said:

This is a very interesting perspective and even though I don't agree with you, I still dig what you're saying.

Stymie said:

Hi Stymie ...which part do you not agree with?

noimageatall said:

Noimageatall, yes I would because I too am an Ex-JW. I never say anything I don't mean. It was my choice not to follow that faith as I got older, mainly because I don't like anyone putting restrictions on my life, but that's another story. I don't disrespect the JW faith, but it just isn't for me, and I don't disrespect anyone who chooses to follow it because it's their personal choice. It's not my place to tell anyone which religion to choose, that's up to the individual how one feels about it, such as your experience as an Ex-JW, but honestly, I was talking about Prince taking a spiritual path, not so much as the "particular" religion that he chose. I specifically mentioned his faith because apparently that is the faith he is presently following. I was comparing the fact that he took a spiritual path when other artists who are no longer with us, because they unfortunately used drugs to deal with their issues, or so that is how the story has been told. You are definitely entitled to your opinion, and I respect that, but I stand by mine. Thanks and appreciate your response though.
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noimageatall said:

I don't believe the JWs are a cult. I find that I do agree with other stuff you say. Prince is definately unlike any other Witness I know. I do not hate on Prince for any of it and I know it is none of my business, but I am very curious as to how his makeup and high heels and sexually suggestive songs are acceped within his faith. And the people he hangs with and parties with in Vegas: whoo hoo!!!

2elijah said:

I understand and totally agree with what you are saying. One of the reasons I totally love Prince is that he chose not to travel down the drug path as so many other artists did. He DID choose to be a spritual person, which is why I have a hard time coming to grips with his "choice." Of course, it is none of my business. I just can't fathom that he would condone the child molestation issues facing the JW's now.

Abrazo said:

"Honest" is one of those words that needs to be dropped around here, imo. Way too many people here confuse being critical of prince with having an honest opinion.

Sure there's folks who honestly think something is shit.

But there's also folks who "honestly" dig what he's doing and others who honestly like some but not all of it. Takes all kinds..

SexyBeautifulOne said:

so that explains it!

Stymie said:

You are right about that. That's one of the hypocritical things that made me leave. Different rules for different JW's. It's Prince's compromise that's bothering me. (But, who am I, right?)

Anyway....at the risk of turning this into a religious thread....

http://www.rapidnet.com/~...lts/jw.htm
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2elijah...you said...."It was my choice not to follow that faith as I got older, mainly because I don't like anyone putting restrictions on my life, but that's another story."

THAT'S my whole point!! Prince is restricted now from making the earth shattering, life altering, music he was born to make. That is just sooooo wrong! Spirituality should not restrict...it should open up and expand your mind.

Abrazo said:

In this particular case, I can see where the poster is coming from. I think we all go through a period where Prince frustrates the hell out of us.

noimageatall said:

But it was "his choice" wasn't it? Whether we like it or not. I can't disrespect someone because they made a personal choice they obviously feel comfortable with. If one day he feels he doesn't want to be part of that faith, he is free to walk away from it, but that would still be his choice. As far as it preventing him from making the "life altering" music you say he was born to make,..he's still making it, just in a different form and still gets the message across.. his way of course.

Also, just to add, when I say I don't like restrictions on my life, that's not just because of what religion I choose, that is with everything about me, that's just my personality. I just don't like someone else telling me how I should live my life or what I can or cannot do period. Although I will consider others' advice on occasion.
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noimageatall said:

If Prince is restricted, it's of his his own choosing and his own understanding of his spirituality/religion.

Moreover, restrictions can often bring out the best in an artist.

noimageatall said:

With the last sentence of your post, you don't have to be in a "specific faith" for something like that to happen. It's an unfortunate and terrible situation that happens in all societies, not a "JW" thing. It's "society's problem..could be your neighbor next door or someone in your family.

While attending FAMU in the 90s, I did research for a report on "child abuse" and one of the surprising findings of family members doing the most "child molestation" in families were Uncles", yes, believe it or not that is what I found in my research, but you can't put a stigma on "Uncles" in everyone's families can we? Just trying to let you know that it could be anyone, even close family members and friends.

Also, that was the findings in the mid 90s, I'm sure hat has changed since I've done that report. For the past couple of years, I've been hearing reports that now it's happening among young children against other children, which is obvious it happened to them from a family member or close friend of the family.
Anyway, not to get off topic but just letting you know that a child molester could be anywhere, whether they are part of a religious organization or not. Some like to close their eyes that this type of situation is not happening when it is. It's a societal problem that we need to deal with, not just something that may be happening in all religious organizations. Whether religious organizations want to believe it or not, they are still part of this society and have to deal with the same societal issues as those outside their organizations.
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ElCapitan said:

I speak for myself on that issue, Prince's choice of faith is his own personal right, whether anyone likes it or not. I respect his choice.
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