BartVanHemelen said:

Was that about the same time your career as a journalist came to a grinding halt?

Why don't you start treating people with a little respect around here for a change? Or just fuck off to another website?

funkyhead said:

Oh grow up. Stick to the facts instead of the lame fantasy world you've constructed.

LOL!, yep i'm sat here with my old Purple Rain posters and praying for a reunion.

Bwahahahaha. Prince is bored shitless. LISTEN to what he plays and how he plays it: quick verse and chorus, and than on to the interminable guitar solo or the "look at me I'm playing jazz baloney".

how do you know he's bored, maybe he jsut enjoys this way of playing?, maybe he's happy doing the jazz [i love the jazz funk stuff, at least he's trying!]

funkyhead said:

Sheesh, don't you guys LISTEN to a CD? 3121 is exactly the same shit he's been doing for a decade: pale imitations of himself. Prince had given up on 3121 before it was even released. Rmember when Prince used to have hits, when he used to tour an album, when he was RELEVANT?

MartyMcFly said:

hey i love the Bartman, he makes this sight lots more fun and gives us a lot more balance. Bart, i suspect comes from the old school like me and is just incredibly frustrated in knowing that P has played safe for several years and really not done anything to break new ground. Personally i can't blame P, at the end of the day going near broke possibly scared the shit out of him and if safe hits for the masses pays the bills then fair enough. You should really checkout Barts threads on the other forums as he's as passionate about far more important issues than Prince and i've picked up good info from him.

funkyhead said:

Oh please. ONA became a GREATEST HITS tour once it left the USA.

funkyhead said:

Bullshit.

Wanna know which artist takes far more risks? MADONNA. Latest tour focused almost entirely on her NEW ALBUM, with only a handful of reworked hits inbetween. That used to be Prince's game, but he lost that long ago when dollar signs were all he started to care about. And thus he now "hosts" a club in Vegas where he can command ridiculous prices, for doing pale imitations of what he used to do at the Park for next to nothing a decade ago.

Prince is back? In what universe? Like he was back after the rrhof show? Like after the Grammy show with Beyonce? Etcetera. This will go NOWHERE.

funkyhead said:

Don't give him so much credit... just try and enter into a discussion with him... see how much you really love him?

.)Wanna know why he didn't play any new music? Because he knows damn well that nobody cares about it, and that it just doesn't measure up.

MADONNA?, Bart you are kidding right, did you see her holding that bloody guitar, her voice is just horrible and her latter career is based on working with great producers and having excellent marketing plans.

'pale imitations', ?, he's just trying to get back to the old P sound,

you can argue the same about Bowie, Dylan etc.

You cannot deny that 3121 was a step up from Musicology.

BartVanHemelen said:

Did he tell you this or have you so evolved that you are able to read minds now?

thedoorkeeper said:

What other reasons does he have? Listening to him talk, you'd think his post-1995 output is far better in all kinds of ways than his previous work. Yet he barely tours it, and loses interest ina project sometimes even before it gets released. 3121 was dead & buried before it hit the shops.

Prince isn't playing his own songs, and others aren't covering them. What does that tell you?

I asked a couple of simple questions, and I note that instead of replies, all I got were a bunch of nonsensical personal attacks. Why? Because you all know that I'm right, just like I was right when I laughed at the "he is back" bullshit all the previous times.

It would take a mircale for him to "be back". So what if his next "same ole shit" tour will once again rake in the money from fans who've apparently never gotten what made Prince so different? The Stones top that "top earners" list each time they go on the road, and there isn't a sane person who will claim that they're relevant.

Don't pretend that the guy posing as Prince is Prince. That guy was last spotted at the end of 1995.

funkyhead said:

And that's what's wrong.

in your opinion! .I really feel that he's trying to cash in on 1]the nostalgia of so many comeback bands + the demand from old school P heads to get back to classic 80's Prince. Agree though that a mix of his old sound mixed with something new would be great. WILMHOU is a prime example of a missed opportunity and a horrible decison to let it get lost.

Oh please. Bowie's music's been irrelevant for years, even decades. He's a leech. Dylan is hit & miss, but his latest album was great, even though he pilfered lots of the lyrics from writers etc.

Isn't it the point though that Bowie may be just can't compete with himself anymore, come on he's 60 and his Diamond Dogs days are long gone, However i loved his last 2 CDs, tour etc. Bart, i love your opinions but don't you think our expectations on the most creative artists can be too demanding i.e. if they achieve a run of 'ground breaking' albums etc and then just dry up or simply can't do it anymore then maybe we should just accept it?. I think though the issue ,many including myself, have with Prince is that we know that he is able to do so much more creatively [just a regular flow of out-takes on CD would prove that!]. However i appreciate all the music, tours etc he's done so far and have more than enough to keep me happy.

funkyhead said:

I can.

thedoorkeeper said:

What other reasons does he have? Listening to him talk, you'd think his post-1995 output is far better in all kinds of ways than his previous work. Yet he barely tours it, and loses interest ina project sometimes even before it gets released. 3121 was dead & buried before it hit the shops.

Prince isn't playing his own songs, and others aren't covering them. What does that tell you?
that he's not getting airplay!
I asked a couple of simple questions, and I note that instead of replies, all I got were a bunch of nonsensical personal attacks. Why? Because you all know that I'm right, just like I was right when I laughed at the "he is back" bullshit all the previous times.

It would take a mircale for him to "be back". So what if his next "same ole shit" tour will once again rake in the money from fans who've apparently never gotten what made Prince so different? The Stones top that "top earners" list each time they go on the road, and there isn't a sane person who will claim that they're relevant.
hits sell tickets, plain and simple. People vote with their pockets and say what you want BUT selling concert tix, having the pulling power to get prime TV spots on his terms etc would suggest he's back.

Don't pretend that the guy posing as Prince is Prince. That guy was last spotted at the end of 1995.

funkyhead said:

Sweet jebus, her ENTIRE CAREER has been like that. But SHE was in charge from day one.

Her latest tour focused almost entirely on what she was doing NOW. Prince's latest? Yup, same ole hits.

I listened to a tape from a 1986 concert: the first five songs were all CURRENT songs, only then he started playing older songs, and even then the focus was largely on what he was doing NOW. Ditto 1987. Even 1988. Or 1994-95.

I was sceptical when I started to look at Madonna's latest live dvd (and yes I know it isn't that "live" anyway), but she blew me away, with fresh, updated versions of classic hits, with kickass versions of her latest stuff, and with a frankly astonishing dance troupe that displayed a fantastic range of styles.

And sorry, but accusing Madonna of pandering to the masses? So what if there's an Abba sample, what she brings is still edgy stuff that doesn't take the easy route. She hires the guys she wants, and Jacques Lu Cont isn't exactly a hitmaker. Oh, and she hires COMPETENT people. meanwhile, Prince's webmaster is the same loser who's been making crappy Prince sites (and artwork) for a decade.
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I'm glad to see Prince getting noticed for what he does best, instead of some attention getting stunt; such as changing your name to a symbol, writing slave on your face, or mocking the We are the world song. It looks like Prince is growing up, and is learning how to be King!

I'm glad to see Prince getting noticed for what he does best, instead of some attention getting stunt; such as changing your name to a symbol, writing slave on your face, or mocking the We are the world song. It looks like Prince is growing up, and is learning how to be King!

Don't pretend that the guy posing as Prince is Prince. That guy was last spotted at the end of 1995.

funkyhead said:

Oh grow up. Stick to the facts instead of the lame fantasy world you've constructed.



Bwahahahaha. Prince is bored shitless. LISTEN to what he plays and how he plays it: quick verse and chorus, and than on to the interminable guitar solo or the "look at me I'm playing jazz baloney".

funkyhead said:

Sheesh, don't you guys LISTEN to a CD? 3121 is exactly the same shit he's been doing for a decade: pale imitations of himself. Prince had given up on 3121 before it was even released. Rmember when Prince used to have hits, when he used to tour an album, when he was RELEVANT?