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Printablevainandy said: Of course he can no longer compete. Bullshit is all there is over the radio these days for him to compete with. In order for him to compete with that, he would have to resort to making bullshit also. No he can't compete anymore and I hope he doesn't waste his time trying.
so i assume you think all of prince's hits were bullshits???? go listen to "song of the heart" and enjoy this non bullshit song. | |
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Purplerain7772001 said: and i wanna add 2 all these replies and they r very good 1's
what artist really nowadays has lasted longer than prince ON TOP as u like 2 call it. every artist faces there demise commercially. so wat he's not ON TOP in the charts 2 even b in the charts 2 me is an honour. this topic is not about prince should make hits or that. it's more about why he's album did poorly because he's newest album is WEAK. before you say anything about being debuted #1, let me just say it was debuted #1 after heavy promos using prince's old himself.All in all, the album was short lived because it's a weak album. that's the whole point. | |
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I think he always been at his best when he's just Prince. I think lately he is trying to compete and get on the radio instead of producing weird, original sounding records like his biggest hits. It used to be every Prince single sounded like nothing else. Now hes trying to sound like the latest fad or old school, but not original. ______________________________________________
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I disagree. His music is uncomparable. His lyrics are amazing and he is a great composer. I LOVE his song "Love" off of 3121 it's my favorite song.I love riding in my car with my sunroof back on a sunny day hallin' ass on 95 with that song on...no doubt. "Satisified" has a great groove. And "Lolita," whatever...if you can sit still during this song you have no right turning a radio on. I can go on...Musicology, I loved every song. I get so tired of hearing that candy bop formula crap that gets put out day after day...mmmmm to the left to the left....everything you own in a box to the left....Top 20 songs drive me nutz....cause you hear them ALL the TIME. Hence the reason I bought an ipod...The radio plays the saaaame soooongs over and over and commercials. Prince has nothing to worry about. He is an undeniably gifted writer, composer. He will always do what he is doing, his music will get bought, He will get more Oscars, Golden Globes, Grammy's etc and women will kiss the ground he walks on till the day he dies. Also I do remember reading that his Musicology tour was like number 3 or so in $ makers for all tours of that year. He therefore is a competitor. | |
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Paisley4u said: NouveauDance said: But this really isn't any different to other long-standing artists is it?.... Who's listening to the last few albums of James Brown's last record, or The Stones, or Blondie, or Kraftwerk, or Stevie Wonder, or ANYONE, compared to the albums released at their creative peak? Prince is no different. Here is the answer ratt^ Include Bruce Springsteen and Bowie.(and I still like those 2) hey there. look at what you wrote. you answered your own question. that's my point. people revert back to their old albums because their new albums SUCKED.. so you must have agreed with me that prince's new albums are weak. see my point now?  | |
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jenm said: I disagree. His music is uncomparable. His lyrics are amazing and he is a great composer. I LOVE his song "Love" off of 3121 it's my favorite song.I love riding in my car with my sunroof back on a sunny day hallin' ass on 95 with that song on...no doubt. "Satisified" has a great groove. And "Lolita," whatever...if you can sit still during this song you have no right turning a radio on. I can go on...Musicology, I loved every song. I get so tired of hearing that candy bop formula crap that gets put out day after day...mmmmm to the left to the left....everything you own in a box to the left....Top 20 songs drive me nutz....cause you hear them ALL the TIME. Hence the reason I bought an ipod...The radio plays the saaaame soooongs over and over and commercials. Prince has nothing to worry about. He is an undeniably gifted writer, composer. He will always do what he is doing, his music will get bought, He will get more Oscars, Golden Globes, Grammy's etc and women will kiss the ground he walks on till the day he dies. Also I do remember reading that his Musicology tour was like number 3 or so in $ makers for all tours of that year. He therefore is a competitor.
I totally agree. I think he knows he has nothing to worry about. He said himself he does all this because he has to. It is what he was born to do.. It isn't about top 40 or charts or anything like that. The numbers don't tell it all. There is a HUGE underground buzzzzz with this man right now. He is rockin' it. | |
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ratt said: as i've said in another post.
p cant sell his new album without singing purple rain/let's go crazy over and over again. P is using his old himself to promote his new albums. his latest albums were without any hits. no #1 hit single nor anything close to top ten single. they were debuted #1 but short lived since there were no hits to generate interest in the album. prince got all the talent in the world but he just cant create a hit single anymore. p has become sort of like rolling stone singing "satisfaction" constantly to generate interest. [Edited 1/17/07 9:22am] Nope I won't admit it and thats that ! | |
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LittleNicci said: ratt said: as i've said in another post.
p cant sell his new album without singing purple rain/let's go crazy over and over again. P is using his old himself to promote his new albums. his latest albums were without any hits. no #1 hit single nor anything close to top ten single. they were debuted #1 but short lived since there were no hits to generate interest in the album. prince got all the talent in the world but he just cant create a hit single anymore. p has become sort of like rolling stone singing "satisfaction" constantly to generate interest. [Edited 1/17/07 9:22am] Nope I won't admit it and thats that ! so? | |
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once again .. who cares if he cant compete ? if he cant compete he cant compete. hes earned his dues,. Your lips would make a lollipop too happy. | |
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Negritaluvyu said: once again .. who cares if he cant compete ? if he cant compete he cant compete. hes earned his dues,.
never said he didn't earn his dues. i just said it's a very weak album and weak song like "song of the heart" | |
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ratt said: Negritaluvyu said: once again .. who cares if he cant compete ? if he cant compete he cant compete. hes earned his dues,.
never said he didn't earn his dues. i just said it's a very weak album and weak song like "song of the heart" He doesn't need to compete with some fly by night artist. Those artist are trying or hoping to be where Prince is now someday. He's already made history and as long as he keeps performing he'll keep making more history. No one seems to care if he has hits anymore. True that may be a thing of the past but he still like all great entertainers you can't be on top forever. Just enjoy where he is at now. Everyone can't be the Rolling Stones , everyone can't be a Prince are any other legendary artist. | |
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diana7777 said: jenm said: I disagree. His music is uncomparable. His lyrics are amazing and he is a great composer. I LOVE his song "Love" off of 3121 it's my favorite song.I love riding in my car with my sunroof back on a sunny day hallin' ass on 95 with that song on...no doubt. "Satisified" has a great groove. And "Lolita," whatever...if you can sit still during this song you have no right turning a radio on. I can go on...Musicology, I loved every song. I get so tired of hearing that candy bop formula crap that gets put out day after day...mmmmm to the left to the left....everything you own in a box to the left....Top 20 songs drive me nutz....cause you hear them ALL the TIME. Hence the reason I bought an ipod...The radio plays the saaaame soooongs over and over and commercials. Prince has nothing to worry about. He is an undeniably gifted writer, composer. He will always do what he is doing, his music will get bought, He will get more Oscars, Golden Globes, Grammy's etc and women will kiss the ground he walks on till the day he dies. Also I do remember reading that his Musicology tour was like number 3 or so in $ makers for all tours of that year. He therefore is a competitor.
I totally agree. I think he knows he has nothing to worry about. He said himself he does all this because he has to. It is what he was born to do.. It isn't about top 40 or charts or anything like that. The numbers don't tell it all. There is a HUGE underground buzzzzz with this man right now. He is rockin' it. "There is a HUGE underground buzzzzz with this man right now." |
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Prince does not need to compete with anyone. | |
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ratt said: Negritaluvyu said: once again .. who cares if he cant compete ? if he cant compete he cant compete. hes earned his dues,.
never said he didn't earn his dues. i just said it's a very weak album and weak song like "song of the heart" thats your opinion, just because its weak 2 u dont mean its weak 2 someone else. I have listen 2 u go on and on about Prince, I happend 2 love his music and some of it I dont listen 2 but this man has given me so much I can pick and choose on any given day what I want 2 listen 2 and there is NO OTHER ARTIST THAT DOES THAT 2 ME. U speak of U2 and all the albums they sell, well personally I dont give a damn about there music or them but thats my opinon. Different strokes 4 different fokes but don't try and make me see things your way because I don't. As long as Prince stay in good health, keep making music I could care less whether he can compete with these no talented artist they have 2day. Remember when Prince get paid he dont have 2 fork out the bucks 2 the industry like so many artist do in order 2 get that madness played on the radio etc. If he had 2 buy his way like so many artist do then yes he will become your flavor of the day on the radio. 3121 didnt get the air play and still went number 1.  | |
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Prince has one competitor-----HIMSELF!!!!!
Music?"if you wanna call it that is .....how you say nowadays? SHIT! | |
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pennylover said:[quote] ratt said: don't try and make me see things your way because I don't. As long as Prince stay in good health, keep making music I could care less whether he can compete with these no talented artist they have 2day. Remember when Prince get paid he dont have 2 fork out the bucks 2 the industry like so many artist do in order 2 get that madness played on the radio etc. If he had 2 buy his way like so many artist do then yes he will become your flavor of the day on the radio. 3121 didnt get the air play and still went number 1. when did i try to make you see my way? stop making shit up. i made my point and that's it. get your head out of purple panties and open up your mind. you nut fan keep talking about 3121 being #1 as if it is a braggin right but at the same time you keep saying you don't care about him competing. WTF??? you cant have both ways sister. 3121 went to #1 after heavy promos using purple rain tracks. again, prince singing purple rain. 3121 didn't go to #1 because of "black sweat" track. it was debuted #1 due to heavy promos NOT because new tracks. album couldn't hold on its own without heavy promos. no substance. that's why 3121 was short lived due to weak tracks in the album. i'm glad to hear you enjoy 3121 b/c i personally think it's a really weak album and the number speaks itself in the chart when you have a weak album. yes i know, you dont care about him making hits anymore but you kepp talking about 3121 being #1 in the chart. | |
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Diosuni said: Prince has one competitor-----HIMSELF!!!!!
Music?"if you wanna call it that is .....how you say nowadays? SHIT! it's not very nice to say music nowdays is SHIT except for prince. that's very bias and rude and you aint gonna win an argument that way. | |
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It´s true , technically speaking, Prince can no longer compete....because there is no serious competition for him out there....
In the past, especially in the eighties, there were some great Funk, Rock and Soul /RnB musicians in the charts who were a serious challenge to a young and hungry Prince. Today, you have countless acts without any serious talent on top of the charts, and the whole biz has dramatically changed eversince downloads. There is nobody who could seriously challenge him like back in the days when you had MJ, Rick James, U2, George Michael, Sade, Madonna, Queen,The Police, Alexander O Neal, The Time ( the monster he created ) , Cameo, the aftermath of James Brown and George Clinton, Midnight Star, SOS Band, basically great musicians in every genre, including a lot of instrumental stuff happening in the 80s like Kraftwerk and so on, even early Electro Hip Hop had an influence on him or he on it as obvious in the instrumental version of Possessed. I could go on and on but I guess you all understand what I mean...today, you only have a handfull of people who do what he does, and he´s also no longer active in every genre the way he used to be...I mean, I´m not into Rock that much ,but still , there are lots of new Rock bands out there , especially in the UK or guys like Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters in the USA and people like Erykah Badu, D´Angelo, maybe Pharell and TImbaland and Justin Timberlake but they all just do what he´s done ages ago and they all look up in awe to him and stand in his shadow, and the older generation is resting on laurels ( you know, like Sting, the Stones, George Michael, Bowie, Elton John etc,etc. ) so there is really no competition out there. In that sense, Prince CAN NO LONGER COMPETE. There are no competitors. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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KoolEaze said: It´s true , technically speaking, Prince can no longer compete....because there is no serious competition for him out there....
In the past, especially in the eighties, there were some great Funk, Rock and Soul /RnB musicians in the charts who were a serious challenge to a young and hungry Prince. Today, you have countless acts without any serious talent on top of the charts, and the whole biz has dramatically changed eversince downloads. There is nobody who could seriously challenge him like back in the days when you had MJ, Rick James, U2, George Michael, Sade, Madonna, Queen,The Police, Alexander O Neal, The Time ( the monster he created ) , Cameo, the aftermath of James Brown and George Clinton, Midnight Star, SOS Band, basically great musicians in every genre, including a lot of instrumental stuff happening in the 80s like Kraftwerk and so on, even early Electro Hip Hop had an influence on him or he on it as obvious in the instrumental version of Possessed. I could go on and on but I guess you all understand what I mean...today, you only have a handfull of people who do what he does, and he´s also no longer active in every genre the way he used to be...I mean, I´m not into Rock that much ,but still , there are lots of new Rock bands out there , especially in the UK or guys like Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters in the USA and people like Erykah Badu, D´Angelo, maybe Pharell and TImbaland and Justin Timberlake but they all just do what he´s done ages ago and they all look up in awe to him and stand in his shadow, and the older generation is resting on laurels ( you know, like Sting, the Stones, George Michael, Bowie, Elton John etc,etc. ) so there is really no competition out there. In that sense, Prince CAN NO LONGER COMPETE. There are no competitors. i agree. musically there's no musician quiet like prince. prince is on his own when it comes to pure musical talent. it just that he's making crappy half ass albums. | |
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Prince has no need to compete. He is in a class all by himself. What is the name of that class???? it's called a musician/ artist. something that folks these days know nothing about. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 | |
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music nowadays basically is crap
they talk about nothing lol S0ME music is good, not all tho Your lips would make a lollipop too happy. | |
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Wrong decade to be questioning Prince's competitive chops. In the 90s his chart-topping prowess definitely waned, but right now the man's having a nice mid/late career revival, enjoying his highest profile since Diamonds and Pearls, delivering a number 1 tour, number 1 album, getting Grammy knods, and winning a Golden Globe. He's not only competitive, he's winning.
Harping on his lack of hit singles or that 3121 didn't stay number 1 long enough, or he's riding the nostalgia of his glory days seem like petty nitpicking, considering his recent successes. If you don't like his current music, that's fine. But knocking Prince's competitivenss--when he's actually doing very well, better than he has in years, better than MJ, better than Springsteen--shows a lack of perspective. | |
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prince CAN and will compete.
i heard he's training in the olympics. figure skating. go figure  Sex Kitten
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Tell you what, muhfucka: when halftime rolls around next Sunday, watch this itty bitty bundle of genius do his thing, then mentally place any of these ringtone-producin', ennui-inducin', over-produced, under-performin' HACKS up against him. If you have an honest bone in your body, you will admit that Prince no longer has to compete with today's music acts, be cause he has moved BEYOND them....PEACE. | |
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ratt said: poeticrockstar said: This is such an ignorant ass topic. What does Prince have to compete with anybody or anything for? The man has been in the music business for 30 years and had made some of the greatest records ever. His legacy is secured and not to mention, Prince is one of few entertainers that can announce he's coming to your town and it will sell out in a matter of minutes. Yes, he's gonna always sing "Let's Go Crazy" and "Purple Rain" because that's his music, and there are folks who wanna hear it.
Compete? Compete with who? Damn sure not the Justins and the Britneys of the world. If hit singles and hit albums is what you're banking what Prince is all about, then you're obviously not a fan. obviously you are the closed minded foo. read it carefully before start talking shit. i never said prince should compete against today's no talent singers. read my topics carefully. i criticized for making shitty songs. it meant that prince cant write great songs any more like he used to. it's such a weak lame execuse to say prince did it all so he doesn't have to focus on making hits. BULL$HIT!!! i'm his fan. no doubt. but i dont sucking up to every album the way you do. if i think it's a crappy album, i'll say it's a crappy album since i paid for his crappy product. as you said he's legacy is secured. however he's making crappy albums and trying to sell a crappy album using his legacy. with his disappointing album, prince does a massive number of promotions as much as anyone(actually more since more people want him on their shows) but his album is SHORT LIVED since his songs are not catching people's attention. so you say prince is not concerned with making hits but he does all these promotions, including american idol and sang his two new songs? but in the end, no one cared about his new songs despite his best efforts. do you understand that? prince is still selling out using his old himself rather his new self. how many times is he going to sing "go, go,go" to promote his new album? Rolling stone still sell out, so what? group such as u2 put out a great album and people love it. so my point is prince has become sort of like rolling stone who is not known for their newer album(which have bombed), known for their classic albums. do you still get it?? You keep bringing up U2. Sorry but the "popular" songs that those guys have released have sounded like the same song over and over for the last 15 years.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Yeah He cant compete at all 
His last album was #1 on 3 charts He won a grammy for his new music His last tour was the biggest one of the year He made the most money for the year as a musican He just won a golden globe He is performing on the super bowl He is one the biggest acts in Las Vegas He is about to have a world tour.... You right he cant compete anymore. 
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Ifsixwuz9 said:[quote] ratt said: You keep bringing up U2. Sorry but the "popular" songs that those guys have released have sounded like the same song over and over for the last 15 years. that's your opinion and i have my own opinion. like it or not, u2 keeps making albums that people love, not just nut fans. | |
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ElectricBlue said: Yeah He cant compete at all
His last album was #1 on 3 charts He won a grammy for his new music His last tour was the biggest one of the year He made the most money for the year as a musican He just won a golden globe He is performing on the super bowl He is one the biggest acts in Las Vegas He is about to have a world tour.... You right he cant compete anymore.
you need to READ the previous posts before writing this same post that other people have written for 100x times. | |
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Thumparello said: No one seems to care if he has hits anymore. True that may be a thing of the past but he still like all great entertainers you can't be on top forever. Just enjoy where he is at now. I care! I want him to keep producing great music, I want it to get loads of airplay, I want it to storm up the charts so that everybody hears it so that people understand why we're all nuts about this guy's music. I don't want him to keep producing completely unremarkable records like 3121 that leave my friends none the wiser as to why I listen to so much Prince, and leave me wondering why I keep shelling out for the piss-poor garbage he's been producing for the last ten or so years. The guy's music is/was/could be wonderful - and I want everybody to enjoy it! | |
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sexyAuntyFuka said: A good song is not defined by how well it does in some stupid charts that are influenced by silly little 13 year olds spending their allowance money on production line crap
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