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PrintableI think growing older has changed the way he looks at the world and this has had an effect on his music
Black Sweat is almost a classic Prince song 3121 album started good then turned to music mush and none of the songs stood out Go back to Sign of the times everysong is different and made you want to listen to it over and over 3121 is now on the shelf yet im still listening to Sign of the times As a fan I would like more albums like Sign of the times but I feel it is over and Prince has lost interest Shame So no in reality I dont think he can compete | |
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deeb said: I think growing older has changed the way he looks at the world and this has had an effect on his music
Black Sweat is almost a classic Prince song 3121 album started good then turned to music mush and none of the songs stood out Go back to Sign of the times everysong is different and made you want to listen to it over and over 3121 is now on the shelf yet im still listening to Sign of the times As a fan I would like more albums like Sign of the times but I feel it is over and Prince has lost interest Shame So no in reality I dont think he can compete But this really isn't any different to other long-standing artists is it?.... Who's listening to the last few albums of James Brown's last record, or The Stones, or Blondie, or Kraftwerk, or Stevie Wonder, or ANYONE, compared to the albums released at their creative peak? Prince is no different. | |
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ratt said: as i've said in another post.
p cant sell his new album without singing purple rain/let's go crazy over and over again. P is using his old himself to promote his new albums. his latest albums were without any hits. no #1 hit single nor anything close to top ten single. they were debuted #1 but short lived since there were no hits to generate interest in the album. prince got all the talent in the world but he just cant create a hit single anymore. p has become sort of like rolling stone singing "satisfaction" constantly to generate interest. [Edited 1/17/07 9:22am] I agree, he can't compete against the crappy so called "artist" of today. |
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NouveauDance said: deeb said: I think growing older has changed the way he looks at the world and this has had an effect on his music
Black Sweat is almost a classic Prince song 3121 album started good then turned to music mush and none of the songs stood out Go back to Sign of the times everysong is different and made you want to listen to it over and over 3121 is now on the shelf yet im still listening to Sign of the times As a fan I would like more albums like Sign of the times but I feel it is over and Prince has lost interest Shame So no in reality I dont think he can compete But this really isn't any different to other long-standing artists is it?.... Who's listening to the last few albums of James Brown's last record, or The Stones, or Blondie, or Kraftwerk, or Stevie Wonder, or ANYONE, compared to the albums released at their creative peak? Prince is no different.  | |
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thekidsgirl said: Dewrede said:  Basically! 
I get bored of these ppl around here constantly trying to parallel Prince with today's modern pop crapptastic posers who are half his age. If you are so concerned with the pop charts rather than good music, go play Cassie's album or something  
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NouveauDance said: The commercial pop music scene is a youth orientated market, it always has been since it was songs about bobby socks and soda-shops. You can't discuss the decline of music (or Prince's chart success) without factoring in how much the music industry has changed. To those that say "it's always been this way, old farts always think music was better in the past", I disagree. Think about pop music in the eighties, for example. Yes, there was a lot of disposable junk then, just as it always has been. The difference is, it was at least POSSIBLE for veteran artists such as Tina Turner, Smokey Robinson and Aretha Franklin to have huge mainstream successs. Also, you could have a musically ambitious project like Sting's "Dream Of The Blue Turtles" actually considered Top 40 material. Not to mention the variety of styles you could hear on pop radio, from bubblegum pop, to hard rock, to R&B/funk, to new wave and even retro-rockabilly like the Stray Cats. None of that can happen in the current marketplace because the decision has been made by the-powers-that-be that only bubblegum pop/R&B/rock and thugged-out commercialized hip-hop by and for teens will comprise the entirity of mainstream popular music. The music business was never perfect, but at least you had lots of successful independent labels that had full access to the mainstream, label execs that knew and cared about music and companies that were willing to stand behind artists for years before the public caught on to them. Now because of label consolidation there are only three or four major-label groups left and independent labels are by and large shut out of mainstream exposure. Those few major labels that remain have become uber-corporate, demanding quick returns and quarterly profits. First album has to debut at #1, if not you get dropped. Sound too different from what's currently on commercial radio, no one is going to go out on a limb and sign you. And then the music business became more like the movie business where opening sales became the only measure of success. These days if you don't debut at #1 then you're immediately considered a "flop". You used to be able to work an album over time and build an audience. There used to be plenty of cases when a first single stiffed, but a second or third single broke an album big. Not to say that there aren't still talented artists (even some signed to majors), but they don't have the ability to create the "cultural zeitgiest" that they would have been able to create in the past because the mainstream is only open to bubblegum crap. The corporate consolidation of record labels and radio stations IS new. The appointment of bean counters and market research specialists to run those companies instead of music people (and the narrow range of artists released and played on the radio as a result) IS new. The expectation of instant success to boost quarterly profits IS new. There have always been greedy companies that ripped off artists and labels that interfered with artists' creative vision. The difference then was that at least real artists could get signed by major labels and be exposed to the masses in greater numbers and with greater cultural impact than they can now. These days Jimi Hendrix would probably be an obscure indie artist few people would hear of like Cody Chesnutt. | |
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Desire2006 said: I agree with u totally!!! In the UK, his last #1 single was TMBGITW and that was WELL OVER 10 YEARS AGO, 13 YEARS AGO 2 B EXACT!!!!!
[Edited 1/17/07 0:59am] 1st and only. So going by your logic, when did he ever compete? | |
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redflag said: NouveauDance said: The commercial pop music scene is a youth orientated market, it always has been since it was songs about bobby socks and soda-shops. You can't discuss the decline of music (or Prince's chart success) without factoring in how much the music industry has changed. To those that say "it's always been this way, old farts always think music was better in the past", I disagree. Think about pop music in the eighties, for example. Yes, there was a lot of disposable junk then, just as it always has been. The difference is, it was at least POSSIBLE for veteran artists such as Tina Turner, Smokey Robinson and Aretha Franklin to have huge mainstream successs. Also, you could have a musically ambitious project like Sting's "Dream Of The Blue Turtles" actually considered Top 40 material. Not to mention the variety of styles you could hear on pop radio, from bubblegum pop, to hard rock, to R&B/funk, to new wave and even retro-rockabilly like the Stray Cats. None of that can happen in the current marketplace because the decision has been made by the-powers-that-be that only bubblegum pop/R&B/rock and thugged-out commercialized hip-hop by and for teens will comprise the entirity of mainstream popular music. The music business was never perfect, but at least you had lots of successful independent labels that had full access to the mainstream, label execs that knew and cared about music and companies that were willing to stand behind artists for years before the public caught on to them. Now because of label consolidation there are only three or four major-label groups left and independent labels are by and large shut out of mainstream exposure. Those few major labels that remain have become uber-corporate, demanding quick returns and quarterly profits. First album has to debut at #1, if not you get dropped. Sound too different from what's currently on commercial radio, no one is going to go out on a limb and sign you. And then the music business became more like the movie business where opening sales became the only measure of success. These days if you don't debut at #1 then you're immediately considered a "flop". You used to be able to work an album over time and build an audience. There used to be plenty of cases when a first single stiffed, but a second or third single broke an album big. Not to say that there aren't still talented artists (even some signed to majors), but they don't have the ability to create the "cultural zeitgiest" that they would have been able to create in the past because the mainstream is only open to bubblegum crap. The corporate consolidation of record labels and radio stations IS new. The appointment of bean counters and market research specialists to run those companies instead of music people (and the narrow range of artists released and played on the radio as a result) IS new. The expectation of instant success to boost quarterly profits IS new. There have always been greedy companies that ripped off artists and labels that interfered with artists' creative vision. The difference then was that at least real artists could get signed by major labels and be exposed to the masses in greater numbers and with greater cultural impact than they can now. These days Jimi Hendrix would probably be an obscure indie artist few people would hear of like Cody Chesnutt. Mostly I agree with you, it is hard for interesting new acts to break through and compete these days. That is however changing, in the UK this week there was the first non-signed act to break into the top 40 since the chart now accepts downloads even without a CD single. The internet is changing the whole business model yet again. But here we are not talking about a new act, we are talking about an 'oldie' act, like almost any oldie act there is a diminishing return from when they were big down to much lower sales. Yet because they expect to be treated like the massive stars they once were, it is still very expensive for labels to keep them happy, so no wonder labels are not so interested in pushing older acts over ones. Prince isn't in the charts because his music is so out there; it has actually been relatively commercial sounding recently, but there is no label spending huge amounts of money pushing him anymore because they would never get it back. That's why you don't see him in the charts, that and not actually helping very much to promote his own singles. | |
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I don't think prince is the type of person who chases number one hits anyways, he creates whatever he wants and doesn't care about statistics and I would think that prince fans prefer it this way or at least got used to it considering that he hasn't been mainstream public since the early 90's. | |
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metalorange said: Mostly I agree with you, it is hard for interesting new acts to break through and compete these days. That is however changing, in the UK this week there was the first non-signed act to break into the top 40 since the chart now accepts downloads even without a CD single. The internet is changing the whole business model yet again. But here we are not talking about a new act, we are talking about an 'oldie' act, like almost any oldie act there is a diminishing return from when they were big down to much lower sales. Yet because they expect to be treated like the massive stars they once were, it is still very expensive for labels to keep them happy, so no wonder labels are not so interested in pushing older acts over ones. Prince isn't in the charts because his music is so out there; it has actually been relatively commercial sounding recently, but there is no label spending huge amounts of money pushing him anymore because they would never get it back. That's why you don't see him in the charts, that and not actually helping very much to promote his own singles. True, but my point relating to Prince is that veteran artists are now busically shut out of the mainstream of U.S. popular music now regardless. The success of Tina Turner's "Private Dancer", Smokey Robinson's "Cruisin'" or Aretha Franklin's "Freeway Of Love" could never have happened in the current U.S. music biz climate. No matter what Prince records or how well he promotes it, he won't get the key Top 40 airplay needed to have a huge "hit" song. That market is now closed to veteran artists in a way it hasn't been in years past. That's why I think it's fair to complain about the quality of Prince's recent output if you want, but criticizing him for not topping the charts anymore is unfair. A lot of fans seem to think that if Prince would only do what they think is the "right" type of music (getting back funky and nasty, etc.) that he will shoot back to the top of the charts. With the way the industry has changed in relation to veteran artists I think that's a false notion. [Edited 1/17/07 16:32pm] | |
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redflag said: NouveauDance said: The commercial pop music scene is a youth orientated market, it always has been since it was songs about bobby socks and soda-shops. You can't discuss the decline of music (or Prince's chart success) without factoring in how much the music industry has changed. To those that say "it's always been this way, old farts always think music was better in the past", I disagree. Think about pop music in the eighties, for example. Yes, there was a lot of disposable junk then, just as it always has been. The difference is, it was at least POSSIBLE for veteran artists such as Tina Turner, Smokey Robinson and Aretha Franklin to have huge mainstream successs. Also, you could have a musically ambitious project like Sting's "Dream Of The Blue Turtles" actually considered Top 40 material. Not to mention the variety of styles you could hear on pop radio, from bubblegum pop, to hard rock, to R&B/funk, to new wave and even retro-rockabilly like the Stray Cats. None of that can happen in the current marketplace because the decision has been made by the-powers-that-be that only bubblegum pop/R&B/rock and thugged-out commercialized hip-hop by and for teens will comprise the entirity of mainstream popular music. The music business was never perfect, but at least you had lots of successful independent labels that had full access to the mainstream, label execs that knew and cared about music and companies that were willing to stand behind artists for years before the public caught on to them. Now because of label consolidation there are only three or four major-label groups left and independent labels are by and large shut out of mainstream exposure. Those few major labels that remain have become uber-corporate, demanding quick returns and quarterly profits. First album has to debut at #1, if not you get dropped. Sound too different from what's currently on commercial radio, no one is going to go out on a limb and sign you. And then the music business became more like the movie business where opening sales became the only measure of success. These days if you don't debut at #1 then you're immediately considered a "flop". You used to be able to work an album over time and build an audience. There used to be plenty of cases when a first single stiffed, but a second or third single broke an album big. Not to say that there aren't still talented artists (even some signed to majors), but they don't have the ability to create the "cultural zeitgiest" that they would have been able to create in the past because the mainstream is only open to bubblegum crap. The corporate consolidation of record labels and radio stations IS new. The appointment of bean counters and market research specialists to run those companies instead of music people (and the narrow range of artists released and played on the radio as a result) IS new. The expectation of instant success to boost quarterly profits IS new. There have always been greedy companies that ripped off artists and labels that interfered with artists' creative vision. The difference then was that at least real artists could get signed by major labels and be exposed to the masses in greater numbers and with greater cultural impact than they can now. These days Jimi Hendrix would probably be an obscure indie artist few people would hear of like Cody Chesnutt. I agree whole-heartedly. | |
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Why should he have to compete when he's already won? He's Prince, nuff said.  &  | |
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Shyra said: peppeken said: maybe he doesn't WANT to compete ? and why would he want to compete with the talentless no-hopers who are in the charts today....how many of todays chart acts will be around in 5 years, let alone 25 years like he has sustained. Judging from seeing him in Las Vegas in December he is happy where he is at at present...as he said in 'my name is prince' : ''ive seen the top, and it's just a dream''
THANK YOU! Well said! THANKYOU AND THANKYOU FOR SAYING THANKYOU!!! Word. lol. A good song doesnt need to be on the charts, millons of artists out there have good music, there not on the charts, because people rather make a song like Britney Spears number one, because they recently just saw her vagina, then have a song like "Te Amo Corazon" on the charts. And If Im not mistaken, Im pretty sure "Black Sweat" was number one for a while. Your lips would make a lollipop too happy. | |
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The music charts Are only for children. That's all they are. Once you past your mid 30's you dont matter to the charts anymore, because you become an adult artist. Teenagers are the biggest music buyers in the world. Teens are the horniest of all people, most only buy upon how much they want to shag the artist. Well most teens dont want to shag 48 year olds. Hence why Madona, Michael Jackson, and Prince's sales have all decreased. It's because there 48 and teens dont want to shag them.
It has nothing to do with the quailty of music, it's has to do with shagabilty. | |
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P2daP said: The music charts Are only for children. That's all they are. Once you past your mid 30's you dont matter to the charts anymore, because you become an adult artist. Teenagers are the biggest music buyers in the world. Teens are the horniest of all people, most only buy upon how much they want to shag the artist. Well most teens dont want to shag 48 year olds. Hence why Madona, Michael Jackson, and Prince's sales have all decreased. It's because there 48 and teens dont want to shag them.
It has nothing to do with the quailty of music, it's has to do with shagabilty. Good thing Im not one of those Teens, Im starting to hate music today. Your lips would make a lollipop too happy. | |
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P2daP said: The music charts Are only for children. That's all they are. Once you past your mid 30's you dont matter to the charts anymore, because you become an adult artist. Teenagers are the biggest music buyers in the world. Teens are the horniest of all people, most only buy upon how much they want to shag the artist. Well most teens dont want to shag 48 year olds. Hence why Madona, Michael Jackson, and Prince's sales have all decreased. It's because there 48 and teens dont want to shag them.
It has nothing to do with the quailty of music, it's has to do with shagabilty. You do have a point!He gets it! That's why the ladies love him...  | |
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peppeken said: maybe he doesn't WANT to compete ? and why would he want to compete with the talentless no-hopers who are in the charts today....how many of todays chart acts will be around in 5 years, let alone 25 years like he has sustained. Judging from seeing him in Las Vegas in December he is happy where he is at at present...as he said in 'my name is prince' : ''ive seen the top, and it's just a dream''
prince happy my ass. this is a typical excuse used for a loser. p has done it all, so making hits dont mean jack, blah blah. following your logic, i guess prince is making songs but he does not want them to be hits, eh? you guys are pathetic. it's a same ol execuse again and again. prince is trying new sound but no one cares. as a result it's not playing in the air. do you not get that? hit single indicates people like your music. why is u2 so popular after all these years? they are making hits after hits and people love their new songs when released and they are smash hits. but same cannot be said about prince. prince released an album and goes to #1 after pr moves by using old himself(purple rain) then the album disappears because it doesn't have any good songs in it. it cannot stand on its own based on its merit. p constantly have to sing purple rain million times to generate an interest in the new album. do you get it by now? | |
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Negritaluvyu said: And If Im not mistaken, Im pretty sure "Black Sweat" was number one for a while. Unless it was on some obscure chart, no it wasn't. | |
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ratt said: peppeken said: maybe he doesn't WANT to compete ? and why would he want to compete with the talentless no-hopers who are in the charts today....how many of todays chart acts will be around in 5 years, let alone 25 years like he has sustained. Judging from seeing him in Las Vegas in December he is happy where he is at at present...as he said in 'my name is prince' : ''ive seen the top, and it's just a dream''
prince happy my ass. this is a typical excuse used for a loser. p has done it all, so making hits dont mean jack, blah blah. following your logic, i guess prince is making songs but he does not want them to be hits, eh? you guys are pathetic. it's a same ol execuse again and again. I think that's true. If Prince had a massive hit with a single, he'd have a huge grin on his face and be plastering the fact all over his website, just like he did when 3121 hit number one, and his strut would get a bit longer. He would quite happily have a popular hit - it's just that he isn't prepared to work too hard to do it. Otherwise, why release singles with videos at all? | |
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metalorange said: ratt said: prince happy my ass. this is a typical excuse used for a loser. p has done it all, so making hits dont mean jack, blah blah. following your logic, i guess prince is making songs but he does not want them to be hits, eh? you guys are pathetic. it's a same ol execuse again and again. I think that's true. If Prince had a massive hit with a single, he'd have a huge grin on his face and be plastering the fact all over his website, just like he did when 3121 hit number one, and his strut would get a bit longer. He would quite happily have a popular hit - it's just that he isn't prepared to work too hard to do it. Otherwise, why release singles with videos at all? U guys have no IDEA how the "hit" making game is PLAYED. NONE. If u did, u would realize how silly these comments are. | |
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Graycap23 said: metalorange said: I think that's true. If Prince had a massive hit with a single, he'd have a huge grin on his face and be plastering the fact all over his website, just like he did when 3121 hit number one, and his strut would get a bit longer. He would quite happily have a popular hit - it's just that he isn't prepared to work too hard to do it. Otherwise, why release singles with videos at all? U guys have no IDEA how the "hit" making game is PLAYED. NONE. If u did, u would realize how silly these comments are. EXPLAIN it 2 Us then if U CAN. I'm all 4 learning NEW things. | |
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skywalker said: ratt said: as i've said in another post.
p cant sell his new album without singing purple rain/let's go crazy over and over again. P is using his old himself to promote his new albums. his latest albums were without any hits. no #1 hit single nor anything close to top ten single. they were debuted #1 but short lived since there were no hits to generate interest in the album. prince got all the talent in the world but he just cant create a hit single anymore. p has become sort of like rolling stone singing "satisfaction" constantly to generate interest. What you are saying doesn't really mean too much: Was "Housequake" a "hit" song? Was "Lady Cab Driver"? How well did "Head" do on the charts? How much airplay did "Anna Stesia" receive? You seem equate radioplay/charts with being the barometer of a good song. Any Prince fan worth their purple knows that the "hit" songs weren't even usually the best songs off of the albums. Also,when it comes to the masses, Prince has had to deal with using his old self to promote albums since 1984. So go on and listen to "My Humps" or whatever "hot" song you are into. It's not a popularity contest it's music. Absolutely right, any1 who thinks that only good music does well in the charts is an idiot!! So many of P's best singles over the years didnt do as well as they should ..... i mean wether you like it or not i think most orgers would say that Purple Rain is a classic BUT it only made 7 hear in the UK & i think 2 in the US , & hear in the UK singles like U got the look , Cream , Partyman & countless others never made the top 10 . The charts are filled with a mixture of good & bad music but a lot comes down to the advertising & promotion NOT the quality of the music. We all know P hasnt always promoted himself as well as he could 
But as long as he keeps making music its all good  Live4Love
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britney=played out jt=will b played out in 4 months,jacko=way out.the true musician does not use a format 2 make or play his or her music every year.prince has always changed music using no format 4 us(true listeners)2 listen 2 all forms of music.i know i have,music does not stop at pop rock or r & b 4 me.....peace THE EVERLASTING NOW..... | |
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you're right; he can't compete against these no superbowl halftime playing peerformrs, non golden globe winners, or any of the other groups who had an after party for the creme de le creme of hollywood.
With his business and life in such a mess, i'm sure he'll want to step it up a bit in 07 | |
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AlphabetST1977 said: skywalker said: What you are saying doesn't really mean too much: Was "Housequake" a "hit" song? Was "Lady Cab Driver"? How well did "Head" do on the charts? How much airplay did "Anna Stesia" receive? You seem equate radioplay/charts with being the barometer of a good song. Any Prince fan worth their purple knows that the "hit" songs weren't even usually the best songs off of the albums. Also,when it comes to the masses, Prince has had to deal with using his old self to promote albums since 1984. So go on and listen to "My Humps" or whatever "hot" song you are into. It's not a popularity contest it's music. Absolutely right, any1 who thinks that only good music does well in the charts is an idiot!! So many of P's best singles over the years didnt do as well as they should ..... i mean wether you like it or not i think most orgers would say that Purple Rain is a classic BUT it only made 7 hear in the UK & i think 2 in the US , & hear in the UK singles like U got the look , Cream , Partyman & countless others never made the top 10 . The charts are filled with a mixture of good & bad music but a lot comes down to the advertising & promotion NOT the quality of the music. We all know P hasnt always promoted himself as well as he could
But as long as he keeps making music its all good ok. so you became a biggest prince's fan after listening his "NON-HIT" singles. right, such as after listening to arms of orion track and song of the heart? right? you dont even make sense. all the great musiciand such as u2 are legend because they made/still make great songs that everybody appreciates, not just hardcore fans that sucking up to everything. you dont see u2 sining 'with or without you' million times on every award/promo show. they put out a new stuff and people love it and keep reaching out to new fans. but not true for prince. do you get this idea?? | |
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Of course he can no longer compete. Bullshit is all there is over the radio these days for him to compete with. In order for him to compete with that, he would have to resort to making bullshit also. No he can't compete anymore and I hope he doesn't waste his time trying. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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metalorange said: Graycap23 said: U guys have no IDEA how the "hit" making game is PLAYED. NONE. If u did, u would realize how silly these comments are. EXPLAIN it 2 Us then if U CAN. I'm all 4 learning NEW things. In today's market place there are several factors 2 sustaining a hit. #1: U must be willing 2 pay BIG $$$ 2 be on the radio and TV, Prince is NOT going 2 do that. #2: U must invest time and $$$ into your video's with EMPHASIS on the sexual aspectsor the GHETTO aspects. Prince is NOT going 2 do that #3: U must spent a considerable amount of time on the various TV shows marketing the the product. Prince in NOT going 2 do that either. #4: U must drop names like they are going out of style and have the so called HOT producer of the month with SEVERAL guest on the cd. Prince is NOT going 2 do that EITHER. It's his way.....or NO way. That simple. | |
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Graycap23 said: metalorange said: EXPLAIN it 2 Us then if U CAN. I'm all 4 learning NEW things. In today's market place there are several factors 2 sustaining a hit. #1: U must be willing 2 pay BIG $$$ 2 be on the radio and TV, Prince is NOT going 2 do that. #2: U must invest time and $$$ into your video's with EMPHASIS on the sexual aspectsor the GHETTO aspects. Prince is NOT going 2 do that #3: U must spent a considerable amount of time on the various TV shows marketing the the product. Prince in NOT going 2 do that either. #4: U must drop names like they are going out of style and have the so called HOT producer of the month with SEVERAL guest on the cd. Prince is NOT going 2 do that EITHER. It's his way.....or NO way. That simple. Well, you said I know nothing about how the hit making game is played. And yet I mentioned #1 on your list earlier when I said: "bribing your way onto the radio playlists" and #3 when I said: "such as appearing on every music show/chat show" so even by your own definitions I DO know something about it. As for #2 and #4, that may be true in the USA, but in the UK we still have a relatively varied music chart, not completely dominated by contemporary R&B or whatever you want to call it. There are plenty of bands and artists with other sorts of music having hits, and without the need for ghetto culture in their videos or hot producers making their album. And yet Prince hasn't had a hit in ages over here even though he used to be consistently in the top 40, and for the reason for this I go back to my statement you responded negatively to "it's just that he isn't prepared to work too hard to do it" and yet espoused in your own list time and again: "Prince is NOT going 2 do that". | |
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metalorange said: Graycap23 said: In today's market place there are several factors 2 sustaining a hit. #1: U must be willing 2 pay BIG $$$ 2 be on the radio and TV, Prince is NOT going 2 do that. #2: U must invest time and $$$ into your video's with EMPHASIS on the sexual aspectsor the GHETTO aspects. Prince is NOT going 2 do that #3: U must spent a considerable amount of time on the various TV shows marketing the the product. Prince in NOT going 2 do that either. #4: U must drop names like they are going out of style and have the so called HOT producer of the month with SEVERAL guest on the cd. Prince is NOT going 2 do that EITHER. It's his way.....or NO way. That simple. Well, you said I know nothing about how the hit making game is played. And yet I mentioned #1 on your list earlier when I said: "bribing your way onto the radio playlists" and #3 when I said: "such as appearing on every music show/chat show" so even by your own definitions I DO know something about it. As for #2 and #4, that may be true in the USA, but in the UK we still have a relatively varied music chart, not completely dominated by contemporary R&B or whatever you want to call it. There are plenty of bands and artists with other sorts of music having hits, and without the need for ghetto culture in their videos or hot producers making their album. And yet Prince hasn't had a hit in ages over here even though he used to be consistently in the top 40, and for the reason for this I go back to my statement you responded negatively to "it's just that he isn't prepared to work too hard to do it" and yet espoused in your own list time and again: "Prince is NOT going 2 do that". Lol.....He does not NEED 2. Prince has made his mark, and will continue 2 do so, his WAY. | |
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So, lets say you're right. Prince can't compete. Now, say he suddeny decides to stop being lazy or whatever it is you think he's doing right now. Where does taht get him that he can't get at this exact moment. He is not a new artist. He was signd to Warners almost 30 years ago. Who is it that he needs to compete with. I neeed to understand your logic. He has teh Hall of Fame. He has his own club, he is doing the fucking halftime at the superbowl. What is it you want him to do? Be on TRL or 106 and park BTW, both are major step downs from the shit he does these days. Please enlighten me | |
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