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Thread started 08/31/02 12:14pm

Harlepolis

Prince-Did he eva tour or visit The Arab World or Africa???

Just wondering???

Bout The Arab World? I don't know, he just seems so fascinated by the Arabic culture. Arabic lyrics(Gamillah-Habibi), Arabic music twists, Arabic clothes(The black one when he was sitting on a coach reading a bible and the one in the 'Greatest Romance' video). Hell, he LOOK so Arabic too lol if I saw him walking with a 'Thowp' on and a red 'Gutrah' I'd sho nuff say he's one of the Royal Arabic Gulf Princes. The Q is how did he knew all that stuff? He must've been there.

And what about Africa?? Ain't no real reasons 4 this Q. I'm just wondering cuz since he built his STRONG fan base then why not Africa??

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Reply #1 posted 08/31/02 12:29pm

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He's never toured the world of Africa, but he held a photo-shoot session in Morocco.


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Reply #2 posted 08/31/02 12:31pm

Heavenly

I remember a rumour that said he was in Egypt.
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Reply #3 posted 08/31/02 12:38pm

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That "rumour" happens to be true.

Prince oversaw the (expensive) filming of several video clips, some of them unreleased, featuring Carmen Electra and others featuring Mayte. Some snippets of these video-clips with Mayte ended up on the '3 Chains O' Gold' video collection.




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Reply #4 posted 09/01/02 2:10am

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During the late summer of 2000, he reportedly went to Egypt for "spiritual studies" before really coming out as a Jehovah's Witness.

His flirtation with Arabic music/culture seems to have begun with "Around the World in a Day"--the title track's rhythm section as well as the finger cymbals and lyrics in "A Condition of the Heart."

It's been interesting to see how the Arabesque references have taken various twists and turns since then, with the highest expression probably being the "prince" album and the whole "3 Chains o' Gold" video.
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Reply #5 posted 09/01/02 7:02am

Arcamar

Why do Afro-Americans and associated artist never play in Africa? - They can only cry and screem about racissm and so far..., but do they also think about theyr roots there? They forgot theyr families in that countries simply... or am I wrong? (I hope, in that case)
Africans have the mean Afro-Americans are just the sames as 'withe' Americans, for them.
Some Aficans also said to me, they would wish, the Artists would play in Africa. Also Rock stars and Musicians in general... But...
Why is that so? Because of the money? Arrogance? Why? I would like to know the true. Cause that makes me sad.
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Reply #6 posted 09/01/02 11:44am

Harlepolis

Arcamar said:

Why do Afro-Americans and associated artist never play in Africa? - They can only cry and screem about racissm and so far..., but do they also think about theyr roots there? They forgot theyr families in that countries simply... or am I wrong? (I hope, in that case)
Africans have the mean Afro-Americans are just the sames as 'withe' Americans, for them.
Some Aficans also said to me, they would wish, the Artists would play in Africa. Also Rock stars and Musicians in general... But...
Why is that so? Because of the money? Arrogance? Why? I would like to know the true. Cause that makes me sad.


No need to turn this thread into a damn racial issue but to answer you.

Lets be honest, you don't get a REAL worlwide breakthrough in Africa or in The Arab world.

As a Black Arabic woman, I don't see the difference bitween Africa or The Arab world. Considering that my mother is Somalian native, Moroccoian raised and My father who's full blooded Moroccoian. Both nation share the same culture, the same language(Some of them), same traditions and therefore most of them share the same religion(ISLAM).
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Reply #7 posted 09/02/02 9:40am

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Harlepolis said:[quote]

No need to turn this thread into a damn racial issue but to answer you.

Lets be honest, you don't get a REAL worlwide breakthrough in Africa or in The Arab world.



It is highly ironic that nobody can as yet achieve "REAL worldwide breakthrough in Africa or in the Arab world", given the high percentage of population in those lands.

The same can certainly be said of Latin America and places in Asia, for example like China - the area with the higest human density population in the world.


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Reply #8 posted 09/02/02 10:05am

NuPwrSoul

giotto said:



It is highly ironic that nobody can as yet achieve "REAL worldwide breakthrough in Africa or in the Arab world", given the high percentage of population in those lands.

The same can certainly be said of Latin America and places in Asia, for example like China - the area with the higest human density population in the world.


Actually there are megastars in those parts of the world, but because they are of a different culture or different type of music, they never register blip on the American or Euro pop radar screen at all.

Check Bollywood--the Indian "Hollywood" scene--which is the largest film industry in the whole world. Their stars sell millions of records and fill stadiums in Asian countries or other countries where there are a lot of Asian people.

Also check the world music scene, people like Salief Keita, Youssou N'Dour, Miriam Makeba, can fill stadiums in Africa.

I'm sure there are many other examples of artists who make it big in their own cultures. As far as crossover, well that's a different story.
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Reply #9 posted 09/02/02 10:24am

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NuPwrSoul said:

giotto said:



It is highly ironic that nobody can as yet achieve "REAL worldwide breakthrough in Africa or in the Arab world", given the high percentage of population in those lands.

The same can certainly be said of Latin America and places in Asia, for example like China - the area with the higest human density population in the world.


Actually there are megastars in those parts of the world, but because they are of a different culture or different type of music, they never register blip on the American or Euro pop radar screen at all.

Check Bollywood--the Indian "Hollywood" scene--which is the largest film industry in the whole world. Their stars sell millions of records and fill stadiums in Asian countries or other countries where there are a lot of Asian people.

Also check the world music scene, people like Salief Keita, Youssou N'Dour, Miriam Makeba, can fill stadiums in Africa.

I'm sure there are many other examples of artists who make it big in their own cultures. As far as crossover, well that's a different story.



Which begs the question: Which African-American artists of calibre have been able to achieve a significant "crossover" to this lucrative Asian market?



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Reply #10 posted 09/02/02 11:32pm

NuPwrSoul

giotto said:



Which begs the question: Which African-American artists of calibre have been able to achieve a significant "crossover" to this lucrative Asian market?



Michael Jackson is probably the most universally celebrated artist. Although most of his "African-American-ness" is on the floor of an operating room. Most of the folks that I have talked to from Africa and Asia tend to go for vintage groups--the Motown sound--so there is a lot of love for the Temptations, etc. Others have included Janet, Whitney, and other major pop acts. Prince maybe at the height of his pop status, but his overt celebration of sexuality and gender bending probably prevented him from the same kind of popularity cuz it threatened some of the cultural assumptions of other societies.

Hip Hop has also a strong appeal among younger folks in Africa... Tupac and Biggie for example are humongous heroes among African youth, and Public Enemy inspired a wave of political rap in the Middle East. The stuff is getting there... slowly but it gets there.
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Reply #11 posted 09/03/02 8:34am

Arcamar

Harlepolis said:

Arcamar said:

Why do Afro-Americans and associated artist never play in Africa? - They can only cry and screem about racissm and so far..., but do they also think about theyr roots there? They forgot theyr families in that countries simply... or am I wrong? (I hope, in that case)
Africans have the mean Afro-Americans are just the sames as 'withe' Americans, for them.
Some Aficans also said to me, they would wish, the Artists would play in Africa. Also Rock stars and Musicians in general... But...
Why is that so? Because of the money? Arrogance? Why? I would like to know the true. Cause that makes me sad.


No need to turn this thread into a damn racial issue but to answer you.

Lets be honest, you don't get a REAL worlwide breakthrough in Africa or in The Arab world.

As a Black Arabic woman, I don't see the difference bitween Africa or The Arab world. Considering that my mother is Somalian native, Moroccoian raised and My father who's full blooded Moroccoian. Both nation share the same culture, the same language(Some of them), same traditions and therefore most of them share the same religion(ISLAM).


Sorry, this is not an answer to my questions. Who is making here a race matter? -

I do ask WHY DO MUSICIANS SO LESS TOUR THIS PLACES?

By all respect for your mix wink That's cool. And I'm very happy to hear your 2 cultures agree together. So should it be allover the world. smile

I'm sorry if I couldn't express me betterways. I know my English is catastrofic. Me myself become chickenskin, when later, away from the board, do think what and how eye and to whom like that I wrote. Sometimes I think about it no more to do it, cause I think it could border, but the lust to do it is stronger, most.
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