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Thread started 08/30/02 9:17am

Attitude

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What sux most about Prince?

When U think about it theres tonnes of things that suck about our main man.

I still have the name change at the top of my list. If he wouldnt have re-signed his contract with Wankers (Warners) at the end of 1992 then he wouldnt have ever needed 2 change his name and ruin his image. Not that he had much choice cuz he wanted 2 do the things he wanted.

But I still wish he wouldnt have done it.

So, what is it for U that sucks most then?
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Reply #1 posted 08/30/02 9:20am

nitab

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Are U nuts Not a Thing
[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 9:21:07 PDT 2002 by nitab]
Let's Explore the Sensual Everafter
Nita B headbang
Prince 4ever
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Reply #2 posted 08/30/02 9:27am

SexLovely

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I guess the lawsuits against all those thousands of fansites was pretty damn bad. I still find it hard 2 forgive him 4 that, even if those fans in question were breaking copywright laws.

But 4 me the thing that sucks most is when I found out nearly a year ago that Prince doesnt compose the strings and orchestral arrangements on his songs at all. I thought Prince composed everything himself but when I found out that he left practically all of that 2 Clare Fischer I was gutted.

So gutted in fact I felt betrayed and went off Prince 4 several weeks. It doesnt feel right at all when U hear the beautiful violins on such songs as "Pink Cashmere", "Violet The Organ Grinder" and many others that it isnt from Princes imagination but of someone that I doubt any of us have even seen a picture of.

[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 9:28:13 PDT 2002 by SexLovely]
"...because no-one gets there alone." - "...I like the floor. It's the only thing that seems real."
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Reply #3 posted 08/30/02 9:35am

Handclapsfinga
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the whole prince fiasco...those were the worst 7 or so years in his entire career...
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Reply #4 posted 08/30/02 9:36am

ZaZa

The battle with Warner Bros.
No one has won.
Prince's career was damaged.
The music is being forgotten.
What did Warner Bros. gain except they were able to stick it to Prince.
What did Prince gain except being a pain in the ass to Warner Bos..
The music was compromised.
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Reply #5 posted 08/30/02 9:39am

rdhull

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Attitude said:


So, what is it for U that sucks most then?


I wish he would have actually kept up the enmigma factor. I was hyped when he started doing interviews in print and on television. It was like "oh dayum, he's gonna do televised.." etc..then go on ..the Muppets? Wtf? Cool..I think. But earlier on it was just a trip with the enigma shit he pulled. Although a front, it was nevertheless part of the mystique of his music. He gave an AOL-hell online chat interview where he gave up some facts about his songs like how Another Lonely Xmas was written from fiction etc. I didnt exactly think it was a true story but I didnt need to hear shit that made an impression on the mystiqe explained away like that. Thats why I both love and hate the book DMSR because it debunked th e myustery , yet it was great to read what actually went down etc.My friends and I used to joke back when, that Prince probably only spoke in short sentences all mysterious like when he wanted a band memeber to wear something he would go " I vant u to vear this.." like a hip voodoo svengali. I know its dumb but its just part of the mystique fun fantasy shit that his music displayed. I have a review of the 1999 tour where it describes when the bed arose from the stage during International Fucker, err Lover.." Prince points his finger and a brass bed appears from below the stage.One imagines that this happens everytime he points his finger". Awww damn. Now we know that when he points his finger its probably got peanut butter and shit on it all messy from being in the kitchen and hes pointing at a roach running around the facility. So in essence, for me, the mystique enigma aspect of Prince being gone is what sucks..
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #6 posted 08/30/02 9:40am

rdhull

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ZaZa said:

The battle with Warner Bros.
No one has won.
Prince's career was damaged.
The music is being forgotten.
What did Warner Bros. gain except they were able to stick it to Prince.
What did Prince gain except being a pain in the ass to Warner Bos..
The music was compromised.


I agree wholeheartedly with this
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #7 posted 08/30/02 10:56am

Supernova

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That he won't get his @$$ in gear and come to an agreement with WB for his entire first decade of albums to be remastered and reissued.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #8 posted 08/30/02 11:20am

tommyalma

rdhull said:

ZaZa said:

The battle with Warner Bros.
No one has won.
Prince's career was damaged.
The music is being forgotten.
What did Warner Bros. gain except they were able to stick it to Prince.
What did Prince gain except being a pain in the ass to Warner Bos..
The music was compromised.


I agree wholeheartedly with this


It's true, Warners is a big label that supports a ton of fringe musicians and made him a superstar. Waah waah waah. I'd sign to Warners in a heartbeat.
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Reply #9 posted 08/30/02 12:23pm

Harlepolis

Nothing satisfy a humen being. Back in the day, ppl were complaining about how he won't talk and shit BUT when he came in the late 90's and made all these interviews ppl started to want him as he used to be lol

-The O+> thang was LAME, If he wanted that to trick WB and run away from their contract then why signing it in the 1st place??

-The fact that many ppl(esp women) were hurt by him.

-I agree that he lost the EDGE/DARK/CONTROVERSIAL/DEEPBLUEFUNKY/MYSTERIOUS Image he used 2 have in the 80's(Esp the early 80's) there4 he lost that MUSICAL PART that he used to put back in the day.

-This whole JW thang, I respect his beliefs and all but not to the point when its hurting his music.

-Larry, Larry, Larry!
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Reply #10 posted 08/30/02 12:39pm

herbthe4

The fact that he hasn't played Jacksonville, FL and cancelled the one time he was booked.

Name change...contract...religion...I dont care. He can live his life however he wants.
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Reply #11 posted 08/30/02 1:02pm

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how much time do you have? couch cuz reading it is a list long!
1. Larry evillol
2. the wack NPG club deal
3. Prince Don't want no one Idolizing him, no no no!
But he keeps selling Posters,shirts,and more shit with his pics on them! boo

I could be wrong but according to his new way of life if you have a poster of any famous person up on your wall that is Idolizing" prince no no no!
4.oh did I mention Larry? evillol
5. Prince is clueless
6. Prince is trying so hard to be innocent in one department and in another he is still cutting the fool'
err
7. Maybe he need a whip thats what my mother alway said when I acted up nuts
[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 13:04:07 PDT 2002 by NavahTheButterFly]
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Reply #12 posted 08/30/02 1:18pm

Harlepolis

NavahTheButterFly said:


7. Maybe he need a whip thats what my mother alway said when I acted up nuts
[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 13:04:07 PDT 2002 by NavahTheButterFly]

Now you're talking lol nothing good butta good side beating!
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Reply #13 posted 08/30/02 1:47pm

classic77

The lack of access to the material in the vault.
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Reply #14 posted 08/30/02 2:19pm

rdhull

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Harlepolis said:

Nothing satisfy a humen being. Back in the day, ppl were complaining about how he won't talk and shit BUT when he came in the late 90's and made all these interviews ppl started to want him as he used to be lol


Thats because he became not just accessible but became accessible with drivel.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #15 posted 08/30/02 2:25pm

Harlepolis

rdhull said:

Harlepolis said:

Nothing satisfy a humen being. Back in the day, ppl were complaining about how he won't talk and shit BUT when he came in the late 90's and made all these interviews ppl started to want him as he used to be lol


Thats because he became not just accessible but became accessible with drivel.

In plain English please eek
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Reply #16 posted 08/30/02 2:27pm

adorable2

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Wow! What about Prince sucks the most. It is so funny to see how many creative ways people can just show their booty!
I'm an org elitist... totally unapproachable.

www.myspace.com/prinsexed
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Reply #17 posted 08/30/02 2:27pm

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adorable2 said:

Wow! What about Prince sucks the most. It is so funny to see how many creative ways people can just show their booty!
I mean what kind of question...
I'm an org elitist... totally unapproachable.

www.myspace.com/prinsexed
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Reply #18 posted 08/30/02 2:36pm

Attitude

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adorable2 said:

adorable2 said:

Wow! What about Prince sucks the most. It is so funny to see how many creative ways people can just show their booty!
I mean what kind of question...


Well...fucking exscuuuse me. But unless you have your head up your ass all the time U will have noticed that Prince has done alot of things that have pissed people off over the years and I just wanted to know from people which of these occurances has effected them the most.

Im not saying Prince has to be perfect. Im not saying Prince isnt human and therefore cant make mistakes, I just wanted to know the suckiest things to do with Prince.

Its a perfectly good question. Its just the opposite of "Whats best about Prince". OK!??
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Reply #19 posted 08/30/02 2:46pm

purpleMAN

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larry "drunk ass" graham

the whole JW thang

shuttin down sites

npgmc finger prince ! that was for him, not members...i could go on and on about why i dont like it...it used 2 b aiiight i guess but i think it's kinda wack now
[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 14:48:05 PDT 2002 by purpleMAN]
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shut up already...

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Reply #20 posted 08/30/02 3:54pm

Anji

Surprised no one's thought to mention how essentially $$$ focused Prince has increasingly become, to the point that the ones who get screwed the most are the very ones that support his very existence. His fams, or whatever he wants to call them. Prince is a fantastic musician but he is also a pretty tight fisted motherfucker. He's the first to admit it too, you just need to listen to him during the mid to late 90s interviews. $$$ play as much importance as the music does nowadays in terms of what and how things get done. I could expand but it's been said often enough before. Things would have been better if someone other than Prince was allowed to take care of the business, so that he could wholeheartedly lose himself in the music once again. Now he's fully aware of all his financial dealings, it's clear he won't relinquish too much control over the purse strings even if it's to the detriment of such things as artistry, commercial acceptance or perhaps the most important thing of all, us, his supporters.
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Reply #21 posted 08/30/02 4:04pm

Revolution

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The lawsuits, namechanges, etc...I can accept that,
because there was a point behind them. He finally
has total rights to his music, and that was the main
focal point for those actions.

However, what i think sux most, is...
Why are most things that come out of the P camp so
unorganized and delayed? They write everything so
it's vague as hell. Everything is "last-second" with
them. Like, announcing a party, then cancelling at the
last minute...gotta realize that SOME people may be
making a weekend trip.
Everyone isn't on a "rock-n-roll" schedule, where we can
just pick up and leave. We've gotta be given more notice,
and expect to get what was promised.
I'm not asking for discounts...i'll pay for everything
because i believe that P has unlimited talent and want to
support his efforts, just a little common curtisey would
be appreciated.
Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind.
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Reply #22 posted 08/30/02 7:44pm

lovebird

The way he listens to Larry and the other idiots in his life, and makes decisions on them.. I thought he was a genius.
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Reply #23 posted 08/30/02 8:52pm

Christopher

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sux-


Larry "Kegger" Graham

the live versions of slystone and james brown songs to be found on every performance in the late 90s he does


to many things to list we'd be here all nite
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[This message was edited Fri Aug 30 20:53:50 PDT 2002 by Christopher]
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Reply #24 posted 08/30/02 8:54pm

Erendira

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What sux most about Prince?

This sucks: the creation of complete and rather rude misconceptions of him by many people who do not even respect him as an artist just because he not the "Average Joe".
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Reply #25 posted 08/30/02 9:05pm

daisy

that he has selective hearing with his heart...please dont mute it out
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Reply #26 posted 08/31/02 1:02am

Biscuit

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The only thing 4 me that sucks is how I'm hesitant 2 tell
people that I listen 2 his music and how he's my favorite
musician.It really depends on the environment.

Something that didn't suck however was a few weeks ago I was
at an Old School Jam concert featuring Sugar Hill,Zapp,Gap
Band, and Teena Marie.During the intermissions they played
Prince music,and only Prince music.They only played his hits
especially early ones,they even played Head and the
people there were singing along.

At that moment I felt comforatble liking Prince and his
music.


prince is music
dancing jig My name is BISCUIT...and I am funky! nod
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Reply #27 posted 08/31/02 1:30am

javed

Probably the elitist minority of 'fans' who crap on his every move and conveiniently forget the amount of music and tours he's put out year after year after year in comparison to others in the industry, yeah you know the ones baby , the ones that are never satisfied. He's moved on why can't you?. The mans only human. Yes there are things that have not been to my likeing over the years but none that upset me enough , guess it's cuz i gotta life.
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Reply #28 posted 08/31/02 2:55am

thedog

The NPG music club. He should change his name to the Con artist.
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Reply #29 posted 08/31/02 5:36am

mediadarling

That he's not a girl? smile

Naw, I'd just love to hear everything he's recorded. I don't think we'll ever get the chance.
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