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Thread started 12/14/06 8:19am

gypsyfire

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Do U Lie appreciation thread

This song is FANTASTIC!!
Recognize!
I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos
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Reply #1 posted 12/14/06 9:17am

sexxydancer

Very nice track.Light and breezy.I love it!
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Reply #2 posted 12/14/06 9:23am

thedribbler

acknowledged! I think the parade album is one of my favourites.
A very fine non-aggressive thing.
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Reply #3 posted 12/14/06 10:44am

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Reply #4 posted 12/14/06 2:15pm

Riverpoet31

a bit whimsical on the surface, but when you listen more often to this song you can only admire Prince vocal acrobatics on it, and especially the beautifull vocal harmonies offered by Wendy, Lisa (and Susannah?).
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Reply #5 posted 12/14/06 2:26pm

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Next to Kiss, the best track on Parade...very nice
"Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish."
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Reply #6 posted 12/14/06 2:37pm

Riverpoet31

and, name me any other mainstrain artist from the eighties who dared to put a song in 1920's french chanson-style on an album? lol
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Reply #7 posted 12/14/06 2:39pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

and, name me any other mainstrain artist from the eighties who dared to put a song in 1920's french chanson-style on an album? lol


Only the 1980's P could pull that sh## off!

I had a thread about a year or so ago about this and most fams had such disdain for the song.
"Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish."
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Reply #8 posted 12/14/06 2:47pm

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As much as I like the song, I still think it's the weakest thing on the whole album.
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Reply #9 posted 12/14/06 3:10pm

Riverpoet31

to be honest rightousone, i think this song is in fact better then the song that comes before it, Mountains.

Mountains is a catchy, pompous, solid song, but the kind of song he can create quite easily at any other time. A song like Do U lie, is Prince letting go of his own 'safety net', diving into an experience, taking a risk, letting it all flow.

I even dare to say that these kind of songs brought him to disband the revolution. Wendy and Lisa seemed to push him over a kind of edge with their compositational input, leading to surprising results as Do U lie (and also Sometimes it snows in april, for example).
I think Prince was affraid that he would lose the control over his own sound, and that he felt vulnerable because of Wendy and Lisa 'pushing' him into new, more nuanced, less obvious terrority. Resulting into the disbanding of the revolution, and Prince trying to giving direction to his own music again.

Fortunately the influence of Wendy and Lisa shines trough on many tracks on Sign of the times, adding a sense of depth and subtlety to Princes music that he didnt achieved before (I mean 1999, and Purple Rain are great records, but they are 'woodcutters records') and also after that (he has released some great records, but most of them were lacking depth and subtlety).

To be honest, as much as i admire Prince as a musician, composer and producer, he couldnt have created his masterpieces without the help of fellow-musicians who brought a sense of nuance, subtlety and humanity to his music.
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Reply #10 posted 12/14/06 3:33pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

to be honest rightousone, i think this song is in fact better then the song that comes before it, Mountains.

Mountains is a catchy, pompous, solid song, but the kind of song he can create quite easily at any other time. A song like Do U lie, is Prince letting go of his own 'safety net', diving into an experience, taking a risk, letting it all flow.

I even dare to say that these kind of songs brought him to disband the revolution. Wendy and Lisa seemed to push him over a kind of edge with their compositational input, leading to surprising results as Do U lie (and also Sometimes it snows in april, for example).
I think Prince was affraid that he would lose the control over his own sound, and that he felt vulnerable because of Wendy and Lisa 'pushing' him into new, more nuanced, less obvious terrority. Resulting into the disbanding of the revolution, and Prince trying to giving direction to his own music again.

Fortunately the influence of Wendy and Lisa shines trough on many tracks on Sign of the times, adding a sense of depth and subtlety to Princes music that he didnt achieved before (I mean 1999, and Purple Rain are great records, but they are 'woodcutters records') and also after that (he has released some great records, but most of them were lacking depth and subtlety).

To be honest, as much as i admire Prince as a musician, composer and producer, he couldnt have created his masterpieces without the help of fellow-musicians who brought a sense of nuance, subtlety and humanity to his music.

I hear what you're saying, and I agree with alot it...I think Wendy & Lisa did make a positive impact on his music, and I agree that alot of his best work wouldn't have been made if even wasn't for them or because of them.

Don't get me wrong, I think Do U Lie? is a great song and it does show that Prince is at his best when he's taking risks and is willing to experiment more (with his own compositions and with the band members he chooses to work with), but with the amount of top-drawer material on Parade it will always stand out to me as the lowest point on the album...and if I had to pick a single track to remove from it I would still choose Do U Lie? everytime. razz
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Reply #11 posted 12/15/06 11:54am

thedribbler

r1ghteousone said:

Riverpoet31 said:

to be honest rightousone, i think this song is in fact better then the song that comes before it, Mountains.

Mountains is a catchy, pompous, solid song, but the kind of song he can create quite easily at any other time. A song like Do U lie, is Prince letting go of his own 'safety net', diving into an experience, taking a risk, letting it all flow.

I even dare to say that these kind of songs brought him to disband the revolution. Wendy and Lisa seemed to push him over a kind of edge with their compositational input, leading to surprising results as Do U lie (and also Sometimes it snows in april, for example).
I think Prince was affraid that he would lose the control over his own sound, and that he felt vulnerable because of Wendy and Lisa 'pushing' him into new, more nuanced, less obvious terrority. Resulting into the disbanding of the revolution, and Prince trying to giving direction to his own music again.

Fortunately the influence of Wendy and Lisa shines trough on many tracks on Sign of the times, adding a sense of depth and subtlety to Princes music that he didnt achieved before (I mean 1999, and Purple Rain are great records, but they are 'woodcutters records') and also after that (he has released some great records, but most of them were lacking depth and subtlety).

To be honest, as much as i admire Prince as a musician, composer and producer, he couldnt have created his masterpieces without the help of fellow-musicians who brought a sense of nuance, subtlety and humanity to his music.

I hear what you're saying, and I agree with alot it...I think Wendy & Lisa did make a positive impact on his music, and I agree that alot of his best work wouldn't have been made if even wasn't for them or because of them.

Don't get me wrong, I think Do U Lie? is a great song and it does show that Prince is at his best when he's taking risks and is willing to experiment more (with his own compositions and with the band members he chooses to work with), but with the amount of top-drawer material on Parade it will always stand out to me as the lowest point on the album...and if I had to pick a single track to remove from it I would still choose Do U Lie? everytime. razz


all in all, a damn good album. what about the track i wonder u surely not better than do u lie
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Reply #12 posted 12/15/06 2:51pm

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Love this cut. It was one of the first instances where I began to realize that P had an honest-to-god sense of humour, which became one of my favourite qualities in him. He should fool around like this more often! smile
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Reply #13 posted 12/15/06 9:57pm

URTHE1

LOVE THIS SONG..... cool
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Reply #14 posted 12/15/06 10:10pm

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The song took me off guard at first and so I didn't really like it for a good long while. But then, like so many other P. songs I consider favourites now, it grew on me. I really, genuinely love Do U lie? It's got such an odd sound for a pop song, and in the perfect world in my mind it could've been released as a single and done fabulously.

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Reply #15 posted 12/16/06 3:35am

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thedribbler said:

r1ghteousone said:


I hear what you're saying, and I agree with alot it...I think Wendy & Lisa did make a positive impact on his music, and I agree that alot of his best work wouldn't have been made if even wasn't for them or because of them.

Don't get me wrong, I think Do U Lie? is a great song and it does show that Prince is at his best when he's taking risks and is willing to experiment more (with his own compositions and with the band members he chooses to work with), but with the amount of top-drawer material on Parade it will always stand out to me as the lowest point on the album...and if I had to pick a single track to remove from it I would still choose Do U Lie? everytime. razz


all in all, a damn good album. what about the track i wonder u surely not better than do u lie

I Wonder U is one of my favourite moments on the album...just wish it would be a bit longer.
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Reply #16 posted 12/16/06 4:28am

thedribbler

r1ghteousone said:

thedribbler said:



all in all, a damn good album. what about the track i wonder u surely not better than do u lie

I Wonder U is one of my favourite moments on the album...just wish it would be a bit longer.


I wonder u Is in no way more interesting than do you lie, where there's so much more happening. Vocally, lyricwise, musically... I wonder u is o.k. but more a pose than a performance. PERSPECTIVE:
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Reply #17 posted 12/16/06 4:34am

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thedribbler said:

r1ghteousone said:


I Wonder U is one of my favourite moments on the album...just wish it would be a bit longer.


I wonder u Is in no way more interesting than do you lie, where there's so much more happening. Vocally, lyricwise, musically... I wonder u is o.k. but more a pose than a performance. PERSPECTIVE:

I know Do U Lie? is a more interesting composition, but I Wonder U just has something about it...hard to explain. lol
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Reply #18 posted 12/16/06 4:42am

Imago

I love this psychedelic song!






PARADE is one of those albums that will forever be on the top of my Prince list. I consider it a near miss work of genius that ends up being totally charming for the effort.


It's like a nasty pair of underwear in an otherwise calm still life picture--it's funky!!!






























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