You Are Banished!!

mozfonky said:

I've seen Prince several times in concert. Mostly, early in his career. During the Controversy tour, the night I went, his voice sounded very good. Very strong. On the the 1999 tour, his voice sounded fantastic. His vocals on the 1999 album are flawless. Incredible control and range. I saw Prince 3 times on the Purple Rain tour. The audience was so loud that it was deafening at times. The crowd was truly hysterical through much of the concert. Prince's sound system on this tour was reported to be the loudest of the year, by any artist or band. Including Van Halen. I know the band was SUPER loud and so was the crowd. How in the fuck Prince could even hear himself think during Let's Go Crazy is a miracle. All I know was the band sounded sloppy as hell during the first 3 numbers. I'm not talking about the vhs of the show. I'm talking about what I saw and heard live. And the main reason for this was the band couldn't hear. Prince was so fucking hyped up on Let's Go Crazy, it wasn't even funny. He was just trying to put on a show and stay in control of the crowd at the same time. They looked and sounded wild as hell. Totally different from the way more in control 1999 show. Lisa was the one who showed it the most. In the front part of the concert, she always had this "Oh my God" look on her face. Mark was the only cat, besides Prince, who looked like he wasn't blown away by the reception. I say all this to say that Prince, combined by being amped up to high heaven and running around and doing the splits and then a wild ass solo, he pushed his voice over the volume. He was cutting up so much on stage, performing to the hilt, showboating and the whole 9, he sounded great considering all of those elements. Most humans would have froze to death of fear, let alone sung well. Prince was a fucking pro. Period.

finally a poster with some semblance of reason.

mozfonky said:

Reason...yes! Did he say Prince was singing off key...NO!

SexyBeautifulOne said:

i am a Prince fan not a syncophant. You can just forget i said anything at all.

I can't believe you're talking about things that happened 20 years ago. I'll bet you can't sing at all.

Prince is one of the five greatest singers of the history of modern music, no doubt. Yo mama sings offkey..hehe

2freaky4church1 said:

wlcm2thdwn said:

i'm done.

BlaqueKnight said:

My objection isn't that he's never sang off key - though I've never heard him do it. My objection is to the post that he was singing off key on the Purple Rain Live video...that is a flat out LIE!

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Its possible that there's a bad note or two on a song here or there. Unless a show is tracked, most live performances aren't perfect so I can't say I agree with you without watching the whole tour again. I'm not going to do that so I'll reserve judgement on this one for another time.

blackguitaristz said:

PurpleKnight said:

**** I think that who is musician can understand me. In Studio If u wrong a note, u can sing it again or change it. Performing live things r different. It happens that a singer wrong note, we arent robots...
I remember ONA live (the official cds). Prince got some problems singing from high notes 2 lower ones...

BlaqueKnight said:

***** Ah so, Im not the only one... I've progressed and improved my voice but certain black days Im not able 2 hit the right note.... The last time I went in Studio I sang in awful way... I will do the work another time.

Prince voice is unique and soothing... He isnt a tenor nor a lyric singer but he's GREAT

thebanishedone said:

we do?

STOP STOP STOP STOP!!

Look, Prince is human okay he ain't a machine, none of us are, there is such thing as human error.

Also yes, Prince is proficient with everything he plays and sings.
HOWEVER, for an all-rounder, he comes CLOSE to being as good as some1 who specialises in one field but he may not be as perfect as them.

So my is to say yes he probably goes more off key and cracks more than the specialist singer, but maybe he knows this too?

"No one man wil be ruler" - remember that ppl? Apropos.

A man who knows his limits is a better man than the one who chooses to deny them. - Andre St. Clair Dyer c. 2006

'dre

blackguitaristz said:

Lisa has actually said that the crowd cheered so loudly at times on that tour that it caused her ears to distort. This was before the days when IFBs were used routinely for playback -- so it's entirely possible that they couldn't hear themselves playing or singing.

Lilith said:

Oh no no and no ! hahaha ! OThe ONa tour is Prince at his best vocally. I have been blown away night after night by his vocals (and guitar) performances.

Oh no no and no ! hahaha ! OThe ONa tour is Prince at his best vocally. I have been blown away night after night by his vocals (and guitar) performances.



***** Prince is always vocally GREAT 4 me even if he makes some errors....

Lately I heard about a soloist Tenor singing wrong notes... Im talking about a lyric singer!

Even my CONSERVATORY teachers r wrong sometimes.... Believe me, it aint easy at all getting a conservatory diploma.

R u a musician? If yes U have a trained ear...

Prince made just some lil error but I understand it bcuz Its not easy at all singing from an high note 2 a lower one...
[Edited 12/18/06 9:30am]

I HAVE HEARD HIM SING OFF YES. . AND???? SO WHAT. ..

RECENTLY HE HAS NOT BEEN HITTING THE HIGH NOTES IN SONG WHICH I HATE. .

I HAVE YET TO HEAR HIM DO THE MOST BEAUTFUL GIRL IN THE WORLD LIVE WITH ALL THE HIGH NOTES. . .

BlaqueKnight said:

Agreed. That's why so many accomplished performers use voice coaches. Even the great opera tenors utilize voice coaches and practice regularly. Hell, I'm a big fan of Al Jarreau's vocals but have heard him off pitch to the point where it has made me cringe. Happens to everyone.

mozfonky said:

What exactly is the point of this thread?

i'm loving some of the adult responces on this thread...learning alot.

thanks folks.

ufoclub said:

Okay I listened to it, and if you are right (I didn't get out a keyboard to check where his vocal's key was falling in relation to the chords) it's a consistent halfway note bent up key. But it's consistent, and it also sounds fine when a vocal harmony strikes up with other band members... so I dunno what's going on... he does sing different notes for sections of the song then the studio recording which makes it harder to analyze...

ufoclub said:

It's a half note up I think..that's not what I meant by off key, I meant the way his vocals and the music matched up is off. I just thought that it was interesting that he changed the key for live performance, it's my all time favorite song and i even like some of his vocal mannerisms in this version more than in parts of the studio version. I perform this song regularly and adapted it to piano from beginning to end, I use some of the screaming that he does in the Live version in place of the studio version. I have often called Little Red Corvette, "the perfect pop song". It was written at the peak of a time when the best parts of his songs (like Corvette) was after the 3 minutes allocated for radio and the long versions of his singles are pretty much all superior to the radio and album versions. If you haven't heard the full version of "Kiss" or Poplife, you haven't hear these songs at their best yet. What a genius and how lucky we all are to have him.

this is some stupid shit going on on this thread...show me the greatest singer in the world with the greatest control, intonation ect..and he or she we go off or just be too tired sometimes to even attempt to hit a note..BIG F DEAL ???!!!
[Edited 12/19/06 7:56am]

sagetarian said:

Oh, for heavens sake . Musical genius doesn't mean you don't have the occasional flat moment. Prince is always in tune on record. Hell, the man even screams in tune. Now, *live* is another story. Although it doesn't happen very often, I've heard him go a bit out of tune myself.

coolcat said:

I think so too. there are people as good, but I can't say there's anyone better. But then I'm also a big Dylan fan
Is there anyone better?