from Madhouse to Eric Leeds & Prince's amazing collaboration [on Times Squared] to NEWS , to Xpectation and all the many other Jazz forms he's tried do you dig it or if it were anyone else would you bin it. Personally speaking i like a lot of it, sometimes it's an uncomfortable ride, sometimes it's irresistable [Nagoya, East, 6etc] Good on him, what are your thoughts?.

I LOVE Madhouse 8 & 16 to death!
Enjoyed most of Times Squared,never heard NEWS.

It's really good, but his instrumentals (jazz and otherwise) r when he has the worst tendency 2 b self-indulgent. I like C-Note because the songs r beautifully done and in more managable lengths.

Skimming past the argument of what constitutes 'Jazz', I'm a big fan of all the Madhouse stuff (esp. 16) and Xpectation too.


NEWS..... er no.

Yes.

I can't stand jazz as a rule but I love all of those cd's.

i'm one of the three people on here who doesn't mind N.E.W.S.

i don't mind any of the instrumental/jazz stuff he's done. i hope he does more.

Love it. I especially love N.E.W.S., and had hope to see more of its 'strangeness' work it's way into his pop music (where it used to be).

Yes, I do listen and enjoy it very much: Madhouse, Xpectation, C-Note, N.E.W.S., the Eric Leeds solo album, all the ONA live stuff I've heard, even "2 Nigs..." from the Black Album. My favorite Prince.

Anx said:

Make that four.

Anx said:

I love N.E.W.S. Very organic. Flows beautifully. Funky. Even gets heavy.
Xpectation was the BOMB.
I don't always need "songs".

Giovanni777 said:

my FAAAAVORITE is c-note. i love the jazz/rock fusion of it. it's very spontaneous and it takes me back to the days when prince's music took me on journeys. i like that a version of 'empty room' is thrown in with the instrumentals. i like that clash in the mix. but yeah, i like all the instrumental stuff he's done. it may not be my favorite prince music of all time, but i think it's refreshing for what it is.

I like C-Note and NEWS is OK. I hate Xpectation though and can't crack Madhouse.

Yes, I love TRC the jazziness!

Giovanni777 said:

i agree Giovanni 777.....i really love the N.E.W.S also.....and i listen to Xpectation all the time....both r very good.....it show how unlimited Prince's mind is as far as so many different types of music

I love Prince's jazz,but nobody else's.

yes,princes view of jazz is very intersting.
i think it's natural progression of his music,i also think fusion(jazz-rock)
is where prince heart is .
he is bored with pop music.

real prince music lover can clearly see that.

but i think his music on records is going to go in more electro sound.
will that incorporate jazz???
only he knows

Genesia said:

I got five on it.


I really like NEWS and Madhouse 16 (more than 8). I don't really like Times Squared, and Xpectation is good to put on a work.

I always forget about C-Note. Maybe I'll listen to that tomorrow...

I only have a few other 'jazz' albums--you know classics like Kind of Blue and A Love Supreme, some Billie & Ella...I'd like to build that area of my collection...

jazz purists always make me laugh
they better study up on Miles before they criticize Prince
in any form, Prince makes some enjoyable "jazz" music
i like it all and wouldn't mind some more please

Moonbeam said:

Madhouse is the best of all!

GangstaFam said:

madhouse 16 is a lot of fun, i think...though 8 is the one that brings back more memories for me.

Anx said:

They're both wonderful. But Madhouse 24 from '88 is best of all.

Anx said:

Oh YEAH. I forgot 2 mention C-NOTE. That stuff never wears out on me. I also like the addition of "Empty Room" on there. I should've also mentioned that my musical history has been quite diverse, and many forms of Jazz and instrumental music of many forms has been a part of my musical journey. I guess I'm just sayin' that I'm qualified...

Peace.

G.

GangstaFam said:

i like the stuff from 24, but i never know if what i'm listening to is the 'correct' configuration. i think i had the 'definitive' 24, but it was on 'testament', which i haven't been able to find since i moved.

not that i, uh, you know, OWN 'testament', but if i did, it would be lost right now

Anx said:

Are we thinking of the same thing? Cuz there are 2 "24"s. One from '88 and one from '93.

The one I'm talking about is super tight and only has 5 tracks...

17 (Penetration)
18 (R U Legal Yet?)
19 (A Girl and Her Puppy)
20 (Jailbait)
21-24 (The Dopamine Rush Suite)

The other one sounds more like his band from '91-'93, kinda like some of the "Vault" stuff. It has songs like "Asswhoop" and "Rootie Kazootie". It's still pretty great, but probably the weakest of the 4 Madhouse records.

GangstaFam said:

the one from 88 has stuff that wound up on eric leeds's album, right?

the 93 one i don't think i have much from, or if i do, i'm not aware it's supposed to be madhouse. or maybe i'm slightly aware because of the 1-800 newfunk sampler. hell i don't know. i like 16.

Anx said:

Nope. Prince was supposed to put out the first 24 and then dropped it. He and Eric then began working on a new project in '89 where he let Eric rummage the vaults and hand select songs he wanted to work on. Prince heard the final result and felt that the direction had veered away from Madhouse enough to warrant a solo album. So he let Eric keep the tracks. But the 2 records are nothing alike.

And you're right about the New Funk thing. It had the 2nd "17" or "Carnac" as they sometimes call it.

Not that I know if any of these things really exist, but if they did, someone should like hip you to the 3rd and 4th Madhouse.

i love NEWS too!, also when you think about , lets say that Prince was a Jazz fusion artist only and we put all his Jazzier works together [please somebody list them for us!] i'm sure we'd saying 'hey that Cat's got a pretty decent back catalogue building up with some good ideas'.

funkyhead said:

a box set of prince's instrumental projects would be DIVINE.

even though i think i have it all, just to hear remastered versions - even with the skimpiest of liner notes (anticipating prince's trademark stinginess, alas) - would be faboo.