Prince feuding with his record label will be one of the subjects of "Beef: The Series" tonight at 9p on BET. Interesting add since "Beef" primarily focuses on beefs within the hip-hop industry.

i still have no sympathy to what he did to Warners. And what a hypocrite he was. Saying music should be free, then charging his fans for mostly shitty songs online.

thesexofit said:

I always liked how he said he would give away his music for free.....still waitng 4 that 2 happen

thesexofit said:

This we agree on....

I hope they re run it. Some idiot called me to gossip just as the Prince segment started.

babynoz said:

"free the music"
yeah i remember when i sang that tune

thesexofit said:

well Prince did give a few songs for free.

the 4 songs were

U're Still The One (cover of Shania Twain song)
Madrid 2 Chicago
One Song
Cybersingle

i think those are the only free songs he's given, i may be wrong.

..and as far as them being shitty, i think it was half and half thing. I enjoyed sum of the ones he put out.

When Eye Lay My Hands on U, Mad,Splash, Supercute,Hypno Paradise,Van Gogh,Judas Smile,Vavoom, Jukebox with a Heartbeat..didnt he also put the "MUSICOLOGY" cd on there for the members to download like a month b4 it hit stores?
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i think prince is stupid

WB backed prince all the way,

they let him release as many albums as he wanted and he had full artistic control,

so what the hell was the problem?

bloody idiot

dirtyman2005 said:

FACT is, Prince wanted 2 release more albums, than wat WB allowed him 2, which really sucked.

Oneluv3121 said:

He's been really crankin' 'em out since he left, huh?

Oneluv3121 said:

You forgot The War, which is probably the best song he´s ever given away for free, and then there were a few more as well, but I don´t remember them off the top of my head.

Adisa said:

Emancipation
Kamasutra
Crystal Ball (1998)
The Truth (1998)
New Power Soul (1998)
The War (1998)
Vault..Old Friends 4 Sale (1999)
Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic (1999)
Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic (2000)
1999 New Master (1999)
One Night Alone (2002)
One Night Alone Live (2002)
Musicology
3121
Slaughterhouse (2002)
Chocolate Invasion (2002)

actually yeah being that WB would only let him release ONE album a year.

THANK U THANK U

Oneluv3121 said:

Thank you for listing that. I swear I don't know why people post here. The man has been doing HIS thing for a minunte. Let him be or don't buy the record. Simple as that.

Oneluv3121 said:

Yeah, there's no way WB would have let him saturate the market based on the frequency of those releases.

as the song says "let it go , let it go, let it go!" over!

he gave away "The Truth" for free, and "The War" (initially) and
released a shitload of music.

wether you put down money for that music and wether you liked it
or not is a matter of oppinion. but fact remains that he gave an
album away from free with "The Truth".

Oneluv3121 said:

Not significantly different. Nice list though. You forgot The Rainbow Children
YOU'RE WELCOME YOU'RE WELCOME

What I don't get is how folks want to hold Prince to something he said over ten years ago. Don't people change their minds? I mean, really, do some of you ever? I change my mind about something on an everyday basis. The dude has been around for like thirty freakin' years and if yu ain't got the man is a walking contradiction by now, ain't no help for ya.

Stymie said:

It's Clinton's fault,and you know that damned well!!

Adisa said:

Everything is Clinton's fault.

Stymie said:

Prince was fortunate enough to be signed to Warners when there were still Record Executives who cared about the artists artistic vision to a degree. His issue with Warners was primarily with the "new regime" who he said really didn't give a crap about him and the fact that he didn't have ownership of his masters. He signed with them again, realized he made a mistake. He made the decision to change his name to release material how he saw fit, to ensure that he would own his material and reap the benefits of his labor. Case closed. He was in his late thirties, life is not the same as it is in your teens & twenties. I'm not sure why that makes him an idiot? It doesn't really matter what your tax bracket is, if you're unhappy and need to make a change, then that's what you should do. Personally the "slave period" turned me off for a while, but he took a chance and sacrificed some fans to save himself, I get it...now. I haven't jumped for joy over a "Prince" album, but whether I like a song of his or not...he thinks out of the box, he still puts on great shows and he's been pretty good to his fans over the years. He is truely the master of is own destiny and is extemely respected figure in music industry. For that reason alone, I stay a fan of his. Alot of you have no idea how evil & warped the music/ entertainment industry is! You see everybody looking fabulous in the pictures, seemingly living a great life and that's it. You get alot, and you give up your life...pretty much signing you soul to the devil...if you believe in that sort of thing. A smart person figures out ways to work around these fuckers. Others just bend over, take it up the ass & smile pretty for the cameras.

Adisa said:

yep ur right, i did 4get that one, but i made my point.
ur not welcome, lol.

I just need to see Prince on TV...


That sounded funny.

Adisa said:

NEWS too.

I never felt Prince's beef with WB either. Back in the mid '80's, WB gave Prince 3 movies, more MTV promotion than any other Black artist except Michael, and, most importantly, a label deal called "Paisley Park" with carte blanche.

In '06, rappers, R & B starts, and everyone else kill themselves to "make it"- which could be defined as movies, MTV/BET exposure, and your own label (i.e. 50 Cent, Eminem, Kanye West, etc...).

To me, Prince was being greedy and in denial that his music was no longer hip and relevant as the '90's saw rap and alternative rock become mainstream.

On the other hand, what a power move! Nobody likes their label, everyone feels cheated (i.e. Sheryl Crow, George Michael, TLC, Toni Braxton, etc...). A few can sell a few more records on an indie like Koch, but most have to accept the situation for what it is. Prince, on the other hand, told WB where they can shove it, sold more records on various other Majors, and has the highest grossing tour of '04. What a damn power move! Even Michael's career went to hell after trying to buck Sony.

I was surprise by the support from the hip hop community (or that they even knew about is situation). I do agree that Prince was given a lot and before anyone else even got a little. What he got back in the day, brotha's are trying to get now and only a few achieve it (labels, movies, side projects, etc.) BUT what ever Prince made from WB you can believe WB made a whole lot more from Prince. I also agree with Prince about owning his masters and he should own them since he created the music but why the HELL did he sign that contract in '92????? He knew he was signing his masters away and he should have included them instead of worrying about the largest contract at the time $100,000,000.00 (MJ signed $65 and Janet signed $85).

Do you think Prince will ever go back or try to buy his masters back? I thought he was talking about buying them back in the late 90's?

CoolMF said:

Stop the madness. P didn't really "make-it" until his 6th album. Those people you named had "made-it" with their first or second albums.

dirtyman2005 said:

From what I heard, Prince was NOT aware that WB owned all the rights to his songs. When he did find out, He was highly pissed off. And wanted the rights back. When he didn't get them, This began the SLAVE/Symbol period of his career.