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SWANG

Prince Publishing & WB

In looking over the liner notes of Prince's post-WB works, I found something intersting.

As we all know, Emancipation was the first work Prince released post-WB. It also is the first album Prince had ever released containg cover versions of songs made famous by others. Many fans were disappointed by this and would have preferred 4 new Prince-written songs. However, if my theory is correct, Prince may have had no choice but to do this. You may wanna grab your CD jackets and read along...

Look under the song listing inside the booklet for Emancipation. Notice anything...that's right. WB-owned companies have a financial interest in/own the publishing rights to 'BBGW', 'La, La, La Means I Love U', and 'One of Us'. The exception, 'Eye Can't Make U Love Me', is published by Almo Music, which, as far as I can tell, has no WB affiliation. (anyone know if I am wrong?)

On his next proper commercial release under his own name (prince), RU2TJF, Prince also included his version of 'Everyday is a Winding Road', a song also published by a WB-owned publisher.

My theory: the terms of his release from the WB contract included a stipulation that he release a minimum of 4 versions of WB published songs. This would enable them to collect the performance and mechanical royalties of songs on future Prince albums (something they were not able to do on his past works since he owned all the publishing rights). A bold move by WB (if my theory is correct), especially bold if the albums sold well, and if any of the cover versions had become hits.

Prince also might have been obligated to release one of these covers as the first single from his first post-contract release...hence the choice of 'BBGW' as the first single from Emancipation.

Before you brush this all off as merely coincidence, remember that we're talking about the music industry here. And in the music biz, it's never ONLY about "I'm a put out a CD today"...ya feels me???

What do y'all think??? Abrazo??? Anyone???

-SWANGneedsalife
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Reply #1 posted 09/05/02 9:30pm

mistermaxxx

SWANG said:

In looking over the liner notes of Prince's post-WB works, I found something intersting.

As we all know, Emancipation was the first work Prince released post-WB. It also is the first album Prince had ever released containg cover versions of songs made famous by others. Many fans were disappointed by this and would have preferred 4 new Prince-written songs. However, if my theory is correct, Prince may have had no choice but to do this. You may wanna grab your CD jackets and read along...

Look under the song listing inside the booklet for Emancipation. Notice anything...that's right. WB-owned companies have a financial interest in/own the publishing rights to 'BBGW', 'La, La, La Means I Love U', and 'One of Us'. The exception, 'Eye Can't Make U Love Me', is published by Almo Music, which, as far as I can tell, has no WB affiliation. (anyone know if I am wrong?)

On his next proper commercial release under his own name (prince), RU2TJF, Prince also included his version of 'Everyday is a Winding Road', a song also published by a WB-owned publisher.

My theory: the terms of his release from the WB contract included a stipulation that he release a minimum of 4 versions of WB published songs. This would enable them to collect the performance and mechanical royalties of songs on future Prince albums (something they were not able to do on his past works since he owned all the publishing rights). A bold move by WB (if my theory is correct), especially bold if the albums sold well, and if any of the cover versions had become hits.

Prince also might have been obligated to release one of these covers as the first single from his first post-contract release...hence the choice of 'BBGW' as the first single from Emancipation.

Before you brush this all off as merely coincidence, remember that we're talking about the music industry here. And in the music biz, it's never ONLY about "I'm a put out a CD today"...ya feels me???

What do y'all think??? Abrazo??? Anyone???

-SWANGneedsalife
I think you are on to Something.it does seem rather odd especially the choices.for some strange reason even "Crystal Ball" Fills like there are some Strings attached.I Feel your Point Loud&Clear.
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Reply #2 posted 09/05/02 9:40pm

Aaron

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SWANG said:

In looking over the liner notes of Prince's post-WB works, I found something intersting.

As we all know, Emancipation was the first work Prince released post-WB. It also is the first album Prince had ever released containg cover versions of songs made famous by others. Many fans were disappointed by this and would have preferred 4 new Prince-written songs. However, if my theory is correct, Prince may have had no choice but to do this. You may wanna grab your CD jackets and read along...

Look under the song listing inside the booklet for Emancipation. Notice anything...that's right. WB-owned companies have a financial interest in/own the publishing rights to 'BBGW', 'La, La, La Means I Love U', and 'One of Us'. The exception, 'Eye Can't Make U Love Me', is published by Almo Music, which, as far as I can tell, has no WB affiliation. (anyone know if I am wrong?)

On his next proper commercial release under his own name (prince), RU2TJF, Prince also included his version of 'Everyday is a Winding Road', a song also published by a WB-owned publisher.

My theory: the terms of his release from the WB contract included a stipulation that he release a minimum of 4 versions of WB published songs. This would enable them to collect the performance and mechanical royalties of songs on future Prince albums (something they were not able to do on his past works since he owned all the publishing rights). A bold move by WB (if my theory is correct), especially bold if the albums sold well, and if any of the cover versions had become hits.

Prince also might have been obligated to release one of these covers as the first single from his first post-contract release...hence the choice of 'BBGW' as the first single from Emancipation.

Before you brush this all off as merely coincidence, remember that we're talking about the music industry here. And in the music biz, it's never ONLY about "I'm a put out a CD today"...ya feels me???

What do y'all think??? Abrazo??? Anyone???

-SWANGneedsalife



It's simpler than that. And without the conspiracy. Until Dec 31, 1999, ALL of Prince's song-publishing was still handled through Warner Bros. Everything up through Rave had WB ties.
[This message was edited Thu Sep 5 21:40:34 PDT 2002 by Aaron]
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Reply #3 posted 09/05/02 9:43pm

SWANG

Aaron said:

SWANG said:

In looking over the liner notes of Prince's post-WB works, I found something intersting.

As we all know, Emancipation was the first work Prince released post-WB. It also is the first album Prince had ever released containg cover versions of songs made famous by others. Many fans were disappointed by this and would have preferred 4 new Prince-written songs. However, if my theory is correct, Prince may have had no choice but to do this. You may wanna grab your CD jackets and read along...

Look under the song listing inside the booklet for Emancipation. Notice anything...that's right. WB-owned companies have a financial interest in/own the publishing rights to 'BBGW', 'La, La, La Means I Love U', and 'One of Us'. The exception, 'Eye Can't Make U Love Me', is published by Almo Music, which, as far as I can tell, has no WB affiliation. (anyone know if I am wrong?)

On his next proper commercial release under his own name (prince), RU2TJF, Prince also included his version of 'Everyday is a Winding Road', a song also published by a WB-owned publisher.

My theory: the terms of his release from the WB contract included a stipulation that he release a minimum of 4 versions of WB published songs. This would enable them to collect the performance and mechanical royalties of songs on future Prince albums (something they were not able to do on his past works since he owned all the publishing rights). A bold move by WB (if my theory is correct), especially bold if the albums sold well, and if any of the cover versions had become hits.

Prince also might have been obligated to release one of these covers as the first single from his first post-contract release...hence the choice of 'BBGW' as the first single from Emancipation.

Before you brush this all off as merely coincidence, remember that we're talking about the music industry here. And in the music biz, it's never ONLY about "I'm a put out a CD today"...ya feels me???

What do y'all think??? Abrazo??? Anyone???

-SWANGneedsalife



It's simpler than that. And without the conspiracy. Until Dec 31, 1999, ALL of Prince's song-publishing was still handled through Warner Bros. Everything up through Rave had WB ties.
[This message was edited Thu Sep 5 21:40:34 PDT 2002 by Aaron]


Only in as much as the WB Music Corp. administered Prince's copyrights for him (which Universal now handles). This has nothing to do with this theory of mine though...

-SWANGfeelsAarontoo
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Reply #4 posted 09/06/02 9:44am

Drakie

SWANG said:

Aaron said:

SWANG said:

In looking over the liner notes of Prince's post-WB works, I found something intersting.

As we all know, Emancipation was the first work Prince released post-WB. It also is the first album Prince had ever released containg cover versions of songs made famous by others. Many fans were disappointed by this and would have preferred 4 new Prince-written songs. However, if my theory is correct, Prince may have had no choice but to do this. You may wanna grab your CD jackets and read along...

Look under the song listing inside the booklet for Emancipation. Notice anything...that's right. WB-owned companies have a financial interest in/own the publishing rights to 'BBGW', 'La, La, La Means I Love U', and 'One of Us'. The exception, 'Eye Can't Make U Love Me', is published by Almo Music, which, as far as I can tell, has no WB affiliation. (anyone know if I am wrong?)

On his next proper commercial release under his own name (prince), RU2TJF, Prince also included his version of 'Everyday is a Winding Road', a song also published by a WB-owned publisher.

My theory: the terms of his release from the WB contract included a stipulation that he release a minimum of 4 versions of WB published songs. This would enable them to collect the performance and mechanical royalties of songs on future Prince albums (something they were not able to do on his past works since he owned all the publishing rights). A bold move by WB (if my theory is correct), especially bold if the albums sold well, and if any of the cover versions had become hits.

Prince also might have been obligated to release one of these covers as the first single from his first post-contract release...hence the choice of 'BBGW' as the first single from Emancipation.

Before you brush this all off as merely coincidence, remember that we're talking about the music industry here. And in the music biz, it's never ONLY about "I'm a put out a CD today"...ya feels me???

What do y'all think??? Abrazo??? Anyone???

-SWANGneedsalife



It's simpler than that. And without the conspiracy. Until Dec 31, 1999, ALL of Prince's song-publishing was still handled through Warner Bros. Everything up through Rave had WB ties.
[This message was edited Thu Sep 5 21:40:34 PDT 2002 by Aaron]


Only in as much as the WB Music Corp. administered Prince's copyrights for him (which Universal now handles). This has nothing to do with this theory of mine though...

-SWANGfeelsAarontoo


Actual it could. This theory can be proven if the next release has a WB affiliated song.

Who handles Joni Mitchell's publishing? A Case of You.

Either way great investigative work.
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Reply #5 posted 09/06/02 5:04pm

Abrazo

"A case of you"
(c) 1972 Crazy Crow music,
Admnistered by SONY/ATV Tunes, LLC
on behalf of Joni Mitchell Publishing
You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security.
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