I've 'acquired' alot of extended versions on my laptop and wanted to discuss them with everyone.

I think PR should of been a double lp with the extended lets go crazy;7min +, baby i'm a star 8min+ and computer blue 11min+; all are excellent.

I also think the extended lady cab driver, 11 min+ should of been on 1999 with a shorter automatic.

Also; the extended paisley park song features excellent guitar for nearly 2mins at the begining.

whay does everybody think?

I think the albums should have been released just as they were, and it was fantastic to buy and listen to the extended versions (and the surprise B-Sides) as they were released (separately) to experience yet another side to the songs.

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langebleu said:

Exactly. Another thing to consider is that even though Prince released an album every year, the timed release of the singles/b-sides made the time between albums seem even SHORTER

Back in the 80's and early 90's you really didn't have to wait long to hear some new Prince music.
[Edited 11/3/06 16:07pm]

did someone in here say something about shortening "automatic"??

Snap said:

some times people over rate unreleased or alternative songs because they are taboo or something? i like the alt version of "something in the water" more...but if they had been switched...maybe i would have liked the final one better?

I agree with the above posts, the extended versions are an experience that is totally different to the version listed on an album/cd. Ususally it just isn't practica to include various extended versions because it would merely take up too much space. I enjoyed listening to a cd or album back in the day and later picking up an extended remix of a particular song. I remember when Lovesexy came out and the cd was basically one track. It was a pretty fluid record for me anyways. Later I picked up the maxi single for I wish U Heaven. I liked the maxi single for it's length and for it scarlet's pussy and the various other versions that were on it. So no I don't think they should have been on the albums as a general rule. I liked it then and I like it now.

mikek1 said:

extended Lady Cab Driver? what's that on?

KidOmega said:

It's on nothing... Any extended version is a fake.....

This thread shows the difference between people who just download the files from p2p programs and people who actually buy the records is obvious.... Or at least those who consult a decent discography.
[Edited 11/4/06 1:41am]

langebleu said:

i agree. however, it is very easy these days to make your own 'alternate'
album in a winamp playlist.

it's quite fun to add all the long versions to Around the World in a Day,
instead of just the album versions.

but indeed, it was so nice to run out and buy those singles with extended
songs and brand new ones.

those were the days.

IstenSzek said:

langebleu said:

I agree with that, but when some of his albums are only 40 minutes long I wish he would put some extra songs from his vault on there

NouveauDance said:

i have the extended version; IT'S NOT FAKE!!!!!

mikek1 said:

oh yes it is, do some research or at least ask a a long time collector their opinion before hitting your caps lock and shouting your view.

Fake. so is any extended cut of '17 Days' before that gets mentioned too.

A box-set of his extended cuts would be lovely, I have nearly everything on vinyl, T's bootleg archive on CD and another bootleg called 57inches too, so that pretty much covers it, but something official would be welcomed right here.

Especially his 80's work.

I'm quite happy with the way the albums are, but the extended versions often due improve on some of the songs themselves. I could see the dance remix of "Little Red Corvette" fitting well on the 1999 album, but that 1-2-3 punch of the first three songs may not be as hefty if the extended was included.
[Edited 11/4/06 4:23am]

Marrk said:

I have nearly every extended version on my laptop; i just listened to the above mentioned anmd you're telling me they're aren't real?

just for the record...

The extended versions of "17 Days", "Lady Cab Driver"
& "Baby I'm A Star" are FAKES.

BorisFishpaw said:

how are they fake when i have them?

No. Exteneded versions are mostly to sell more records to make money on a song that's beeen previously released, purely a money making scheme for the record companies. I can't believe so many people fall for it remember the words to all that glitters ain't gold? everybody wants to sell what's already been sold! you making Warner Bro. RICHER and Prince ain't getting a dime.
[Edited 11/4/06 10:15am]

mikek1 said:

People made them and put them on p2p!

It's not official nor is outtakes

mikek1 said:

Because they were never officially released by Prince and they are not
ottakes either. They were made up by fans... hence they are "fakes".

wlcm2thdwn said:

Prince would receive money for an extended version that is officially released.

As the songwriter he would receive a royalty, and he would receive payment for any publishing recouped on the version.

When extended versions were released during the '80s by Prince, they would generally feature on 12" singles. These would either be released the same day as the 7" single or a week later to boost single sales.

People didn't 'fall for it' in so much as they would look either collect both versions because that was their interest, or they sought out the extended version because it often added something special to the song.

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[Edited 11/4/06 10:44am]

I wish all the extended versions that are only available on vinyl would be released on cd. I'm slowly getting them on vinyl, but since I don't have a record player right now I still can't listen to them. That's why Ultimate Prince disc 2 was cool...since the Bsides disc from the Hits were edits.

I could aquire them on boots, but vinyl is so much cooler...

jone70 said:

for one there are places where all of them can be found on cd... as far as i care as long and you have them on vinyl there is nothing immoral with getting them on unofficial cd....

for 2: they make some nice cheep usb turn tables that come with the software to put them on to cd.

Moonbeam said:

the other problem being that the extended version didn't exist until after the album was out.

I am hoping one day an official release (double cd or boxset) will come out with all these extended versions.

Alltough i lost track with his 12/inch releases in the nineties, i really enjoy the 12-inches he released from songs on Around the world in a day, Parade and Sign. To me they sound like he is really trying to create something special and exciting with this longer versions, apart from ´just´ delivering long remixes for the dancefloor.
I mean, some of these extended versions are even better then original songs, and mostly thats not the case with remixes from other artists.

Too sum up my personal favorites which i consider better then the shorter album versions
- Raspberry Beret and Pop Life, maybe not better then the original songs, but some creative us of sounds, effects and rhythems to keep these longer versions exciting.
- She is always in my hair, its a shame they put the edited version of this song on the Hits set, this song has one of the strongest coda´s he has ever done, Lennon and Hendrix lifted off by a drum machine going mad, sort of speak.
- Hello, a funky song, and one of the strangest/silly coda´s Prince has ever done, weird, psychedelic but fun to listen to.
- Mountains, maybe my favorite extended Prince-cut, the whole second part of the song is just mind-blowing, the building up of instruments and riffs reminding me a lot of those jams by Sly and the family stone, also very influential for his later work, i mean: listen to the building up and release of musical energy on the title track of Lovesexy.
- Shockedelica: in the edited version it sounds like something is missing to this song, the extended version is just perfect, with the nasty guitar solo, lines as ´youre laying on my guitar, bitch´, just a nasty, raw, blackhumoured little gem.
- 200 Balloons: a raw, nasty track benefitting from Boni Boyers background vocals and the chaotic ending, where Princes layered vocals are sounding like a choir of munchkins or aliens.
- Thieves in the temple: this extended version goes just about everywhere, the original song sounds like an attempt to write a new ´when doves cry´, the long version has two percussional breaks, a soaring mondharmonica sample, a psychedelic sounding bridge, and a busy, energetic finale much like that on 200 balloons. The kind of genre-blending, exciting, original music i fell in love with when i became a Prince fan at first.

I bought most of these extended versions on vinyl, but i, like many others, dont use my recordplayer anymore. So it would be very nice to see these gems assembled and released on CD oneday.

Riverpoet31 said:

I have nearly all those on my laptop except TITT, mountains and 200 balloons

Prince really says'your lying on my guitar bitch'? I wouldn't expect that from prince; that's pretty degrading.

BeatsPerMinute said:

damn YOU SURE?
I'll have to delete them then.

Do you have a link to the official extended and remix versions PLEASE KIND SIR?
[Edited 11/4/06 12:36pm]

well Mike, he is in his ´camille´ character when singing that... lol

Here's a list of all the officially released remixes and extended versions...
(not including radio edits & remix edits)

Sexy Dancer (Long Version) 8:40
Let’s Work (Dance Remix) 8:07
Little Red Corvette (Dance Mix) 8:00
Let’s Go Crazy (Special Dance Mix) 7:35
Erotic City (Make Love Not War, Erotic City Come Alive) 7:24
God (Instrumental) 7:47
I Would Die 4 U (Remix) 10:15
Another Lonely Christmas (Extended Version) 6:47
Raspberry Beret (New Mix) 6:48
She’s Always In My Hair (Extended Version) 6:48
Paisley Park (Remix) 6:50
Pop Life (Extended Version) 8:55
Pop Life (Fresh Dance Mix) 6:16
Hello (Extended Version) 6:38
America (Extended Version) 21:46
Girl (Extended Version) 7:36
Kiss (Extended Version) 7:16
Love Or Money (Extended Version) 6:50
Mountains (Extended Version) 10:03
Alexa De Paris (Extended Version) 4:54
Anotherloverholenyohead (Extended Version) 7:52
La, La, La, He, He, Hee (Highly Explosive) 10:32
Shockadelica (Extended Version) 6:12
U Got The Look (Long Look) 6:45
Housequake (7 Minute Mo Quake) 7:15
Hot Thing (Extended Version) 8:32
Hot Thing (Dub) 6:53
Alphabet St. (This Is Not Music, This Is A Trip) 7:48
Glam Slam (Remix) 8:53
Escape (Free Yo Mind From This Rat Race) 6:26
I Wish U Heaven (Part 1, 2 & 3) 10:15
Scarlet Pussy (Extended Version) 6:09
Batdance (The Batmix) 7:15
Batdance (Vicki Vale Mix) 5:55
Partyman (Video Mix) 6:20
Partyman (Purple Party Mix) 6:02
Partyman (Partyman Music Mix) 4:31
Feel U Up (Long Stroke) 6:30
Scandalous Sex Suite (part 1: The Crime) 6:28
Scandalous Sex Suite (part 2: The Passion) 6:20
Scandalous Sex Suite (part 3: The Rapture) 6:32
The Future (Remix) 6:45
Electric Chair (Remix) 5:44
Thieves In The Temple (Remix) 8:11
Thieves In The House 6:57
Temple House Dub 5:07
N.P.G. (Funky Weapon Mix) 5:01
T.C.’s Rap (Featuring T.C. Ellis) 3:11
Brother With A Purpose (Featuring Tony Mosley) 4:18
Get Off 4:41
The Lubricated Lady 2:39
Loveleft, Loveright 5:00
Gett Off (Damn Near 10 Minutes) 9:16 (promo only)
Gett Off (Extended Version) 8:31
Gett Off (Houstyle) 8:20
Gett Off (Flutestramental) 7:26
Gett Off (Thrust Mix) 9:29
Gett Off (Rosie’s Dub) 5:30 (promo only)
Gett Off (Thrust Dub) 7:20 (promo only)
Violet The Organ Grinder 4:59
Gangster Glam 6:04
Clockin’ The Jizz (Instrumental) 4:51
Cream (NPG Mix) 5:47
Things Have Gotta Change (Tony M. Rap) 3:57
2 The Wire (Creamy Instrumental) 3:13
Get Some Solo 1:31
Do Your Dance (KC’s Remix) 5:58
Housebangers 4:23
Q In Doubt (Instrumental) 4:00
Ethereal Mix 4:43
My Name Is Prince (Original Mix Edit) 8:06
My Name Is Prince (12” Club Mix) 8:11
My Name Is Prince (House Mix) 7:18
My Name Is Prince (Hardcore Mix) 7:55
Sexy Mutha 3:56
Sexy MF (12” Remix) 7:35
7 (Acoustic Version) 3:54
7 (After 6 Long Version) 5:15
7 (Mix 5 Long Version) 4:56 (promo only)
Letitgo (Caviar Radio Edit) 4:59
Letitgo (Cavi’ Street Edit) 5:02
Letitgo (Instrumental) 5:02
Letitgo (On The Cool-Out Tip Radio Edit) 4:34
Letitgo (Sherm Stick Edit) 5:42
Letitgo ((-) Sherm Stick Edit) 5:42
Space (Universal Love Remix) 6:10
Space (Funky Stuff Remix) 5:41
Space (Funky Stuff Dub) 4:48
Space (Acoustic Remix) 4:31
Pope (Remix) 6:03 (promo only)
Pink Cashmere (Remix) 6:17 (promo only)
Face Down (Money Mix) 4:53 (promo only)
Face Down (Instrumental) 4:04 (promo only)
Face Down (Acapella) 2:22 (promo only)
The Greatest Romance Ever Sold (Adam & Eve Remix) 4:30
The Greatest Romance Ever Sold (Jason Nevins Extended Remix) 6:41
The Greatest Romance Ever Sold (Neptunes Extended Remix) 5:08
1999 (The New Master) 7:09
Rosario (1999) 1:19
1999 (The Inevitable Mix) 5:46
1999 (Keepsteppin') 4:33
1999 (Rosie Doug E. In A Deep House) 6:23
1999 (Acapella) 5:11
Days Of Wild (Original Concert Mix) 11:06
Days Of Wild (Concert Mix) 10:45