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Reply #60 posted 08/25/02 2:33am

calldapplwonde
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Novabreaker said:

calldapplwondery83 said:

- John Blackwell is nothing more than an average drummer.

- Prince should learn to sing a little more consistently at his concerts. The guy's been gigging for 23 years, one would think you'd learn that skill by this the time.


These are the first two I really can't understand. Sing more consistently? What do you mean? confuse


Well, I'm not at all convinced that John Blackwell is that brilliant a drummer, but that's just a personal opinion.

...and "consistent" is just a nicer, more approachable expression for plain lazy singing. He misses the notes a bit too much these days (altough to somebody he's probably just "strectching out") that is when he is singing and not expecting the crowd to fill in the gaps. Like the entire chorus of every second song performed.


I see what you mean, but don't you think that this has always been the case more or less?
And I doubt that he could have done "Avalanche" on the PR tour.
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Reply #61 posted 08/25/02 3:33am

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  • I don't own GoldNigga, but I'd buy it if I could

  • I never returned my 1999 New Master, it's still in my posession

  • Purple Rain is one of my top 3 favorite movies, I absolutely love it & think he did a decent job as a first time actor!

  • I NEVER listen to Chaos & Disorder or The Black Album

  • The Black Album is VERY overrated

  • All of P's fashion choices pre-UTCM were questionable, though I appreciate him being bold enough to wear some of that shit

  • I've read ONE Prince biography (not even a good one) and only because somebody bought it for me

  • The only protegee's I care about are The Time, Sheila, V6 & A6 - the rest of 'em can suck it

  • I don't mind when Prince does remakes, just leave the Sheryl Crow songs alone

  • I LOVE For You, Prince and TRC - still listen to them all on a regular

  • I think the symbol guitar is some cool shit! The whole symbol thing wasn't such a bad move after all - it ID's him instantly & it's unique.

  • I STILL skip 1+1+1 is 3 on TRC

  • I've never been to a "Prince party" & have no intentions of ever attending one

  • Generally, Prince fans make me sick. They're an annoying bunch

  • I hate the word "fam"

  • I wish Prince wouldn't shave so much, he's good wooly

  • I HATE it when he tinkers with live tracks & bleeps out curse words from past recordings mad
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Reply #62 posted 08/25/02 3:55am

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1 more!

  • SOTT (the movie) is WAY overrated! Great concert, but it doesn't hold up as a film. The segues are weak, some back stage stuff would have been so much more interesting - putting the show together, making the album, something real...
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Reply #63 posted 08/26/02 12:12am

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Like others here, I also think the influence of Wendy and Lisa is way overrated.

I think Maceo Parker is a better saxaphonist than Eric Leeds.


I think you are twisted, but I still love you.

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Reply #64 posted 08/26/02 2:40am

DavidEye

I just wanted to comment on some opinions expressed on this thread...


***Wendy and Lisa/The Revolution are overrated---I agree! Don't get me wrong,I love the whole 'Purple Rain' era and all.But I was thrilled when Prince started a new band in late 1986.The 'SOTT/Lovesexy' bandmembers are superior to the Revolution,imo.

***The Black album is overrated---Yes! Alot of people talk like it was the best funk album of the 80s or something.It's funky and raunchy,but it's no masterpiece.It sounds like it was recorded very quickly.

***I love the 'Batman' album---I love it too! Too often,Prince's more "commercial" albums get dissed,and people say he "sold out".These people forget that Prince is also a POP ARTIST who occasionally wants to have a little success,like every other artist.
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Reply #65 posted 08/26/02 5:09am

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I just wanted to comment on some opinions expressed on this thread...

***I love the 'Batman' album---I love it too! Too often,Prince's more "commercial" albums get dissed,and people say he "sold out".These people forget that Prince is also a POP ARTIST who occasionally wants to have a little success,like every other artist.



I like this album also. I never could see why people/fans thought this was a sell-out or too commercial.
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Reply #66 posted 08/26/02 5:14am

Novabreaker

a few more from myself:

- I'd NEVER want to have sex while a Prince record would be playing on the background.

- Prince must be a retarded idiot for liking No Doubt, Offspring AND (get this) Led Zep!

- The "Days Of Wild" -studio version sucks. So does frickin' "All My Dreams". That's as eloquent as it gets.

- 21 instruments my ass.

- Kim Basinger was too good for him.

- The NPG parka made him look like a wannabe gay basketball player off-duty.

- In 500 years Tony M. will be considered God.

I guess that's enough.
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Reply #67 posted 08/26/02 6:21am

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This is a cool thread. If I may add:

I love the Symbol album and I think it was his most underrated CD


Prince shouldn't put remade songs on his albums anymore.

Prince needs to go back to WB or any major label for that matter.




Amen! smile
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Reply #68 posted 08/26/02 7:41am

calldapplwonde
ry83

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a few more from myself:

- I'd NEVER want to have sex while a Prince record would be playing on the background.

- Prince must be a retarded idiot for liking No Doubt, Offspring AND (get this) Led Zep!

- The "Days Of Wild" -studio version sucks. So does frickin' "All My Dreams". That's as eloquent as it gets.

- 21 instruments my ass.

- Kim Basinger was too good for him.

- The NPG parka made him look like a wannabe gay basketball player off-duty.

- In 500 years Tony M. will be considered God.

I guess that's enough.



DO NOT tell me he likes Offspring! I'm gonna burn my Prince collection. mad
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Reply #69 posted 08/26/02 10:08am

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oh my..this is fun

I've never seen the SOTT movie in full (only about 10 minutes of it)
I don't own SOTT, or UTCM, or GB I only on PR on vhs (is it even available on DVD??)
I've only read one bio...DMSR
I don't have Turn it up
I really don't like lovesexy at all...yuk
I really don't like the look he had during lovesexy...too much make up too many polka dots!
I don't like Prince with long hair.
I own one V6 album...cause I bought it for a dollar at a flea market
I don't own ANY other protoge albums...not even the time.
I've never heard any madhouse material (maybe one song)
I didn't own Dirty mind, For you, Prince, or controversy till 2 years ago
Which means I didn't discover Bambi till 2 years ago either!
when I bought the hits when it first came out...I had never heard I wanna be your lover or uptown or any of that...and I was very shocked that Prince sang such disco (now I love it but...not then)
I love the batman album!! every song!
I hated Come when it came out...but love it now.
I love the song SOLO
I don't really like Emancipation...at all...the whole thing
Crystal ball was not a fiasco! and I Love that whole set
I didn't fall for the "god told me too" or what ever that excuse was for the name change...I knew it had to do with his contract.
I don't hold him to his "soul mate" comment...cause you know...when you're in love you're in love...you think the world is perfect...give em' a break.
I don't like his anti-american attidude he has now adays. (don't hate)
I wish he's get a lil dirty again (not too much)
If not for the celebrations, I would have only seen him twice in concert...JOY and Hit and run.

gee...I could go on and on and on and on...I better quit while I'm ahead smile
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #70 posted 08/26/02 11:12am

tommyalma

oh yeah...

· I absolutely love the Batman sdtk...I have the Batdance 12" and CD, as well as the Batman in a can limited ed.

· I think Emancipation 3 is brilliant, and the rest is almost as weak as Lovesexy. That's right, Lovesexy can burn. Bleh.

· THE HUMAN BODY IS BRILLIANT. There, I said it.

· I could not give a small bowel movement about Vanity, Appolonia, The Family, Madhouse or whoever. Pandemonium is all right, and I do have the "Waterfall" promo 7" by W&L.

· I have never joined the NPGMC, and skipped the ONA show when it came to town, although I did go to an out-of-state Hit-N-Run.

· Still don't have For You, Dirty Mind or Graffiti Bridge, nor do I care to. I have the Prince promo LP, but only because it was $.25. I consider anything before 1999 (except half of Controversy) to be a historical document.

· The Revolution sounds flat. No funk, too many sixteenth notes.

· I consider exactly zero Prince albums to be five-star albums (them D'Angelo liner notes were right), not even Sign "O" The Times. Too spotty, and there's always an "Arms of Orion" lurking around somewhere.

· Don't have DMSR, read Uptown, or get AMP. I have a couple of magazine covers, though - Bass Player, Paper, Q, the ATWIAD interview, etc.

· Love the prince album. The Morning Papers, Blue Light, Sexy M.F. - how can you go wrong?

· I got all of my bootlegs except The Undertaker online.

By the way, TLC's "Waterfalls" sounds less like Prince than Paul McCartney, because that's who wrote the chorus.

watch out...
[This message was edited Mon Aug 26 11:15:03 PDT 2002 by tommyalma]
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Reply #71 posted 08/26/02 11:28am

Shorty

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oh...I got more
The only singles I have are: I hate you, the greatest romance, and the 1999 new master.
I actually like a few of the new master versions.
the only posters I have are in a tube in my closet too.
I'm not saying mayte was all that...but I miss her smile
I love the D&P album especially Strollin' smile
the only song I really really like on emancipation is courtin' time! (sue me)
I don't own goldnigga
my exodus got stolen like 5 years ago...and I haven't even thought (well...maybe a lil, mostly for mashed potato girl) about replacinging it.
I think Prince's acting is good in both PR and UTCM. (you just gotta watch it knowing it over dramatised...on purpose?)
GB (the movie) is BAD...like Sucky bad.
[This message was edited Mon Aug 26 13:46:56 PDT 2002 by Shorty]
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #72 posted 08/26/02 1:22pm

calldapplwonde
ry83

this is really interesting...to see all the differences between us when it comes to Prince. 5 star!
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Reply #73 posted 08/26/02 1:56pm

Pagey

Y'all made me think of some more...this is a GREAT thread by the way.

I threw away all my posters when I was about 18 y/o.

Mayte was and IS hot as can be. Too bad Prince let her slip away. Tommy Lee is a lucky man. Susannah was a hottie too.

I think W&L are extremely talented but did not contribute that much to Prince's music. I like them better solo than I did when they were part of The Revolution. Finally SOTT/Lovesexy band was the BEST of 'em all.

Never heard of Gold Nigga until about a year ago, & still never heard anything from it (and obviously do not own it). Downloaded most of Exodus (bought the Good Life single).

Best boot is "4 Those of U On Valium"...Small Club is good...not as great as everyone says it is.

I don't think this is blasphemy...more just the truth...Graffiti Bridge the movie sucked BAD. He should NEVER write and direct his own movie EVER.

I thought his acting in PR was pretty good for a first time actor. UTCM he is good in parts, but other parts he sucks the big one.

D&P is WAY better than Symbol.

His most underrated album is Come.



there are STILL more I am sure...but for now I am done.
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Reply #74 posted 08/26/02 4:24pm

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Hi, all...
New to the 'Org (after lurking for about a month), and decided to toss in my first post on this thread...
My Prince Blasphemies:

* I LOVE the Symbol Album...LOVE it.

* I thought P should've been thumped soundly for a good portion of the over-polished lightweight insincere tripe on "Diamonds and Pearls"...Mostly a horrid album.

* I rather enjoyed "UTCM"...Not an Oscar winner, but not the worst thing I've ever seen...some funny lines and it's beautifully photographed.

* His Kim Basinger period made me question his "drug-free" lifestyle.

* When I saw him face to face in a Miami club about four years ago and he looked me up and down, smiling a little and addressing me with "Hey, sweet thang..", I was too shocked to say anything but "Muh?!?"

* I think his hair during the "Purple Rain" period was incredibly silly-looking, even if it was 1984... He looked like a miniature poodle.

* I didn't get to see the "One Night Alone" tour when it came here because I had to work, even though I already bought tickets...I gave them to another Prince fanatic friend of mine who had a birthday coming up.

* I think Mayte was the ultimate arm-decoration...almost rivaling Carmen Electra, but at least Mayte has SOME talent.

* I like the ass-less pants he wore to the VMAs...mrrrow.

All for now, but I'm sure I'll think of more later.

Nice to meet you all. smile
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Reply #75 posted 08/26/02 6:06pm

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Supernova said:

I think Britney's "Slave 4 U" is one of the best Prince/Vanity 6 rip-offs I've ever heard.

I don't consider TLC's "Waterfalls" so blatantly Prince influenced (and TBoz's vocal performance sounds ill), and I think it's lethargic as bloody hell.





oh yeah, definitely.
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Reply #76 posted 08/26/02 8:10pm

sdanz

I don't own a single Prince movie or album except ONA and the Days of Wild cd from the celebration. (I'm not sure why, cause there are some I would like to have)

There are countless songs/albums I have never heard or even heard of. (and I don't care if I ever learn them)

At concerts and at the Celebration I cheered more for Rhonda Smith than I did for Prince (Go Rhonda!! Yeah!!!).

I don't understand a lot of his riddles that everyone else seem to understand. (if that makes sense)

On a personal note:

His chest hair makes me want to throw up. YUCK!!!
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Reply #77 posted 08/26/02 9:52pm

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Shorty said:



I really don't like the look he had during lovesexy...too much make up too many polka dots!
I don't like Prince with long hair.


mad

Just kiddin', Shorty! wink But that IS blasphemous - you know that, right??? biggrin

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1 more: I don't own Exodus either, hadn't even heard of it until the Org...
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Reply #78 posted 08/26/02 10:49pm

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Jungle Love and The Bird are the weakest Time singles ever.

I don't like Morris Day's shtick. I don't care that he's Prince's alter ego, I think his persona is annoying and obnoxious. Of course he's cool as a fictional character, I'm just sayin'...

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World is Prince's worst single of his career.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #79 posted 08/26/02 10:50pm

theC

Supernova said:

Jungle Love and The Bird are the weakest Time singles ever.

I don't like Morris Day's shtick. I don't care that he's Prince's alter ego, I think his persona is annoying and obnoxious. Of course he's cool as a fictional character, I'm just sayin'...

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World is Prince's worst single of his career.


theC
You don't like Morris DAY???How can you like thechronic??? lol
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Reply #80 posted 08/26/02 11:10pm

Supernova

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theC said:

Supernova said:

Jungle Love and The Bird are the weakest Time singles ever.

I don't like Morris Day's shtick. I don't care that he's Prince's alter ego, I think his persona is annoying and obnoxious. Of course he's cool as a fictional character, I'm just sayin'...

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World is Prince's worst single of his career.


theC
You don't like Morris DAY???How can you like thechronic??? lol

Who said I like thechronic?
That censoredcensored piece of censored!!!


mr.green
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Reply #81 posted 08/26/02 11:16pm

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Supernova said:

Jungle Love and The Bird are the weakest Time singles ever.

I don't like Morris Day's shtick. I don't care that he's Prince's alter ego, I think his persona is annoying and obnoxious.


omfg omfg omfg DAMN, do you like the song Pretty Man at all??? Same attitude... question

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World is Prince's worst single of his career.


WHEW, okay you're redeemed... sort of! :O
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Reply #82 posted 08/27/02 12:16am

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CalhounSq said:

Supernova said:

Jungle Love and The Bird are the weakest Time singles ever.

I don't like Morris Day's shtick. I don't care that he's Prince's alter ego, I think his persona is annoying and obnoxious.


omfg omfg omfg DAMN, do you like the song Pretty Man at all??? Same attitude... question

Ahh, but see, amiga, although it's pretty much the same attitude, it's not the only attitude Prince displays. It seems Prince's braggadocio has always been on an even keel throughout his career. And it's usually stated in a more calmly matter-of-fact type of way (example: "There's no one else like me. I'm the best you'll ever find" - Automatic), as compared to Morris' EVERYDAY, loud and proud, pimp2 Daddy persona.

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World is Prince's worst single of his career.


WHEW, okay you're redeemed... sort of! :O

!!!woot!woot!woot!!!!
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Reply #83 posted 08/27/02 10:36am

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CalhounSq said:

Shorty said:



I really don't like the look he had during lovesexy...too much make up too many polka dots!
I don't like Prince with long hair.


mad

Just kiddin', Shorty! wink But that IS blasphemous - you know that, right??? biggrin

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1 more: I don't own Exodus either, hadn't even heard of it until the Org...


I know I know..I was afriad to admit that one smile
oh and I thought of another one...
I don't know half the words to most of his songs.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #84 posted 08/27/02 10:54am

redruffles

~ I have the cardboard stand-up from the JOTY tour, which I've let me puppy chew on from time to time when I'm too lazy to move him away...

~ That entire "con-tract" and the like, babble makes me question his mental stablity...("Please, someone brainwash me")

~ He was at his manliest while with Mayte, save the MBGW vid. That make-up job only encouraged those whom didn't understand him.

~ UTCM has been a must see for all my (now) ex's. (and No--that had nothing to do with the break-ups smile )

~ The "Get-Wild" perfume was NASTYYY

~ He needs to make up with MTV?VH-1 and start dominating again...he'll only profit from it...I've really had enough of Madonna aand her tireless promo-machinery.
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Reply #85 posted 08/27/02 11:26am

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- TRC is his best album ever

- I Would Die 4 U, Let's Go Crazy, Baby I'm A Star, and Take Me with U are waaay overrated

- 1999 is a boring song

- I don't mind some of his drum programming

- I don't mind some of his rapping

- I like Larry Graham as a music compliment to Prince
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Reply #86 posted 08/27/02 11:27am

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oh, and I think Adore is overrated. A good song...but c'mon folks it ain't his best ever like some of y'all act like it is!!!
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Reply #87 posted 08/27/02 12:56pm

Harlepolis

Ok here we go:

--I became a fan at 2001

--Rave is the 1st lp I bought and its becoz of the COVER(Not some song :p)

--I like Rave and Graffity Bridge(cd).

--I think '4ever in my life'(The lp version) & 'The ballad of dorothy' are the most OVERRATED songs by his fans.

--I like chaos and disorders(My favorites are I like it there-Dinner with and the selftitle)

--I have neva attended P's concert.

--B4 I was a fan I thought he was SUPER GAY

--I didn't respect him along side with Mariah cuz I thought they were anotha version of MJ(Former black ppl turned white). Lata, I realized they were MIXED.

--I used 2 prefer MJ over P, matta o' fact he used to be my favorite.

--I'm so intrested in his PERSONAL LIFE(Esp back in the 80's)

--Rosie Gains voice gets on my last fucking nerve, but I like her as a person.

--I'm not a FAN of the NPG-neva been neva will

--I don't anderstand why ppl hate K.A.J.

--His 1st 2 lps are the BEST(Unfairly underrated) along side 'SOT' and 'Parade'.

--His acting in PR was louzy but his in UTCM hold the BEST!

--I neva liked his clothes(Except the Rave-PR-Parade era)

--I DISLIKE Ingrid so much, matta o' fact I was neva fond by his girls(Except 4 Mani)

--I like Mariah's version of TBO :p and I hate Sinead's version of NCTY

--I consider him(Along side George Benson) the best guitarists eva.

--I like Rhonda's bass.

--I don't have ANY lps by his artists.

--Jill Jones ARE THE BEST girl and artist he eva had.

--I hate it when P rap and I don't like Tony

--I don't have any cassete single by him(The old ones) which I have 'em but I don't know where can I get 'em.

--I don't like the fact that most ppl(Esp women) hurt by him.

--I want him to act again(COMEDY) or at least a CAMEO.

Thats all I could think of.
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Reply #88 posted 08/27/02 11:39pm

Bladerunner

Harlepolis said:


--I didn't respect him along side with Mariah cuz I thought they were anotha version of MJ(Former black ppl turned white). Lata, I realized they were MIXED.


Neither MJ or Prince is mixed.
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Reply #89 posted 08/28/02 7:01am

Shorty

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Bladerunner said:

Harlepolis said:


--I didn't respect him along side with Mariah cuz I thought they were anotha version of MJ(Former black ppl turned white). Lata, I realized they were MIXED.


Neither MJ or Prince is mixed.

here we go again.
some say Prince is black and italian. some say no he's not.
MJ 1/2 and 1/2 alright. 1/2 human 1/2 alien! LOL
sorry..coudln't resist.

and that comment was whacked anyway
"I didn't respect him along side with Mariah cuz I thought they were anotha version of MJ(Former black ppl turned white)"
LOL strange thing to say...don't cha think?
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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