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PrintableEmbattledWarrior said: mikek1 said: All what you mentioned are NOWHERE near on a par with his racist, sexist dogma on TRC! sexist... ok Elitist ok... Racist??? against whom? I'm gonna guess that's about "Family Name" "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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Spinlight said: ElCapitan said: Sage advice. You might consider following it in the future. Your Internet Cool Quotient is just skyhigh right now, iddnit? Sure "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: mikek1 said: All what you mentioned are NOWHERE near on a par with his racist, sexist dogma on TRC! sexist... ok Elitist ok... Racist??? against whom? Listen carefully. I assure you 100% it says whites are opposed to blacks. Pay attention to the beginning of family name 'white jailbait mixed with the misplaced blood line'? The antijewish views aren expressed clearly on trc. | |
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mikek1 said: EmbattledWarrior said: sexist... ok Elitist ok... Racist??? against whom? Listen carefully. I assure you 100% it says whites are opposed to blacks. Pay attention to the beginning of family name 'white jailbait mixed with the misplaced blood line'? The antijewish views aren expressed clearly on trc. mike1, do you understand what he was trying to say or what do you think the message was in the context of the song? Rather than just throw lyrics up for all to see, why don't you explain what he meant exactly and why you think they are racist. I asked you this question before when I posted my review of TRC months ago and you never responded, you kept saying it was racist. | |
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ElCapitan said: Spinlight said: I don't really have an argument. Some of ya'll are way too hasty to start sippin' your Haterade. Most of us think you went too far in stating our opinion. When you say "most of us" exactly who is "us"? I don't remember taking part in your survey. Is "us" everyone on Prince.org or just on this particular board? I think you presume a little too much when you say "most of us". Unless of course you are talking about your multiple personalities in which case "most of us" would mean you & the voices inside your head.  | |
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ForbiddenFruit said: Spinlight said: Musically, the album is amazing. Very organic funk-jazz with great vocal performances from Prince.
However, the lyrics to the majority of the songs are fucking annoying and it ruins the experience for most people. Correct! I am not flying upon the wings of the New Translation. nor was i. i was running from them, far and fast.. | |
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mikek1 said: iconsweat said: The lyrics thing gets to me. On other websites I've read people talk about the lyrics being a bother at times conmerning TRC. What? Nobody had problems with him singing about fucking his sister, receiving head splloging on a dress or about a whore masturbating in a lobby?
What twisted folks "us" are 
. [Edited 10/31/06 13:07pm] All what you mentioned are NOWHERE near on a par with his racist, sexist dogma on TRC! Oh please. See, I told ya TRC was his most controversial "when Im in those arms of yours I'm so gone"-With U/Janet | |
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thedoorkeeper said: ElCapitan said: Most of us think you went too far in stating our opinion. quote] When you say "most of us" exactly who is "us"? I don't remember taking part in your survey. Is "us" everyone on Prince.org or just on this particular board? I think you presume a little too much when you say "most of us". Unless of course you are talking about your multiple personalities in which Spinlight was schizophrenic first [Edited 11/1/06 11:03am] "when Im in those arms of yours I'm so gone"-With U/Janet | |
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thedoorkeeper said: ElCapitan said: Most of us think you went too far in stating our opinion. When you say "most of us" exactly who is "us"? I don't remember taking part in your survey. Is "us" everyone on Prince.org or just on this particular board? I think you presume a little too much when you say "most of us". Unless of course you are talking about your multiple personalities in which case "most of us" would mean you & the voices inside your head. my use of the phrase was a joke. read the thread "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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Spinlight said: skywalker said: Oh so you speak on behalf of "most people"? Funny, I don't remember voting on that. Well, I didn't ask your opinion. That might be why you didn't vote. However, the truth is that most of us dislike the lyrics. I'm sorry you don't agree. speak for yourself...the lyrics dont bother me.. this album is P's best since TGE Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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This cd is one of Prince BEST. Lyrics and all. | |
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bellanoche said: So after all the negative talk about the Rainbow Children, I generally avoided this album. I did a quick pass through it five years ago and that was it. After spending more time on the org and realizing that there is quite a divide between fans who dig Prince's soulful side and those who dig his rock side, as well as those who are open to his new music and those who are cemented in the past,I had to question some of the negative comments on the album. So I decided to listen to it with an open mind.
I played it all last weekend. My final thought is that this album is no way deserved the negative feeback that it garnered. It is actually a solid effort from an artist who is not afraid to take chances. I dig that P is still experimenting with sounds and concepts after all these years. There is some excellent instrumentation/composition on TRC. There are several wonderful songs that have probably only been trashed because they were on TRC. I particularly like: TRC Muse 2 the Pharoah Mellow The Sensual Everafter Everywhere 1+1+1 is 3 She Loves Me for Me Last December Digital Garden Family Name Maybe I was not mature enough to receive TRC five years ago. Maybe I was stuck in the quicksand mentality of "why doesn't he play like he used to" after reading comments about the album. Who knows. Now that I have removed myself from beneath the cloak of those who constantly seek the Prince of the 1980s, I am able to enjoy much of his output this decade. Prince has evolved/matured and so have I. All I can say is keep it coming P!! " I generally avoided this album. I did a quick pass through it five years ago and that was it." ----- This was the same for me, but i probably listened to it about 3 times didnt like what i was hearing and put it aside. So after reading this post im thinking might as well, i could be missing something Great! im giving it another spin right now and we,ll see what happens. [Edited 11/1/06 14:40pm] \o/\o/ ° The Breakdown = Best Prince song for 20 years | |
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youngyosh said: bellanoche said: So after all the negative talk about the Rainbow Children, I generally avoided this album. I did a quick pass through it five years ago and that was it. After spending more time on the org and realizing that there is quite a divide between fans who dig Prince's soulful side and those who dig his rock side, as well as those who are open to his new music and those who are cemented in the past,I had to question some of the negative comments on the album. So I decided to listen to it with an open mind.
I played it all last weekend. My final thought is that this album is no way deserved the negative feeback that it garnered. It is actually a solid effort from an artist who is not afraid to take chances. I dig that P is still experimenting with sounds and concepts after all these years. There is some excellent instrumentation/composition on TRC. There are several wonderful songs that have probably only been trashed because they were on TRC. I particularly like: TRC Muse 2 the Pharoah Mellow The Sensual Everafter Everywhere 1+1+1 is 3 She Loves Me for Me Last December Digital Garden Family Name Maybe I was not mature enough to receive TRC five years ago. Maybe I was stuck in the quicksand mentality of "why doesn't he play like he used to" after reading comments about the album. Who knows. Now that I have removed myself from beneath the cloak of those who constantly seek the Prince of the 1980s, I am able to enjoy much of his output this decade. Prince has evolved/matured and so have I. All I can say is keep it coming P!! " I generally avoided this album. I did a quick pass through it five years ago and that was it." ----- This was the same for me, but i probably listened to it about 3 times didnt like what i was hearing and put it aside. So after reading this post im thinking might as well, i could be missing something Great! im giving it another spin right now and we,ll see what happens.
[Edited 11/1/06 14:40pm] Best enjoyed LOUD on a GREAT sound system. | |
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TRC is beautifully organic and passionate, but it gets lost in its own heaviness. Even the most serious and mature of Prince albums had a sense of fun and quirky charm. This one is lacking that in a lot of places. It takes itself far too seriously and ends up being a chore to listen to as a result. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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Probably his best and most consistent album imo.
The sound is warm,rich and wide, the playing evocative and expansive. The lyrics are pretty obscure but kind of work if you don't follow them too closely . Following the somewhat disapointing 'Rave', TRC was like finding a lake in a desert of averageness.
This is virtually the only Prince album I can play all the way through year in year out. When I put it on, I have to hear it all. I think in the future it will be seen as an obscure classic of the Prince catalogue - one of his best albums, but not for P beginners.  | |
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Still, good or bad, NO ONE can deny that TRC sparks more interesting debate and controversy than any other album P has ever released. Any time someone starts a topic about the themes or quality of TRC, the thread explodes. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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iconsweat said: The lyrics thing gets to me. On other websites I've read people talk about the lyrics being a bother at times conmerning TRC. What? Nobody had problems with him singing about fucking his sister, receiving head splloging on a dress or about a whore masturbating in a lobby?
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. [Edited 10/31/06 13:07pm] Exactly. TRC is controversial but in a different way. The head and the Bambi's and the sister's aren't around....but it is still pushing that envelope. It's another theme album---a trip he was on. I don't love ALL of it, but I do appreciate it as another artistic work. | |
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I LOVE TRC, and always have. There is some historical revisionist re-writing going on here. My memory was that ppl were SPLIT over TRC. I remember MANY MANY people gettign very excited over his return to form, the strength of the album, its coherence, musicianship, the band etc. Comparisons to TGE, Lovesexy etc.
OTOH, the lyrics threw a lot of people and caused a lot of controversy. THe fact that many loved it and many were disturbed by the lyrics is not a contradiction. (However claiming a "majority" for a particular view is pretty spurious, to say the least). My surname's Pearlman, BTW, and I was at least somewhat put-off by the whole Family Name thing, but it's still one of my favourite songs!!! "We've never been able to pull off a funk number"
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Horrible album. | |
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Cloudbuster said: Horrible album.
It beats the hell out of MJ's last album 
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ElCapitan said: Spinlight said: If you don't agree, you're clearly not apart of the people who didn't like the lyrics. You know, the majority. And that's fine. Don't be mad that you're not in the club. I'm not mad. Seems to be a pretty silent majority, though. Well I do remember all the discussions about the lyrics and I still don't listen to the album because of the lyrical content though there may be some great music moments on that record judging from the maybe 5 times I gave it a listen some years back. With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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Here's a thread about the lyrics of TRC from back in the day for those who don't remember it caused discussions: http://www.prince.org/msg/7/184507 With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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PurpleKnight said: Still, good or bad, NO ONE can deny that TRC sparks more interesting debate and controversy than any other album P has ever released. Any time someone starts a topic about the themes or quality of TRC, the thread explodes.
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Cloudbuster said: Horrible album.
everytime you post i want to  you | |
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Serious said: Here's a thread about the lyrics of TRC from back in the day for those who don't remember it caused discussions: http://www.prince.org/msg/7/184507
Cool, for the record I remember the discussions. There are plenty of folks who hate the lyrics. Just don't know that it's fair to say "most of us" based on that. "What kind of fuck ending is that?" | |
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Serious said: Here's a thread about the lyrics of TRC from back in the day for those who don't remember it caused discussions: http://www.prince.org/msg/7/184507
Thank u Serious...Just finished reading the link 2 the TRC. Amazing how controversial this cd really is. Just by reading so many posts on the TRC, people (imo) are over-analyzing his words and putting way 2 much into it. Just sit back and enjoy the music. It is absolutely beautiful....A Masterpiece |
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pennylover said: Just sit back and enjoy the music. It is absolutely beautiful....A Masterpiece
A truly stupid comment. Not to say that TRC is definitely prejudiced towards any particular group, but people have every right to be concerned if they believe Prince might've been expressing anti-semitic views on the album. Just sit back and enjoy the music? So if Prince released a song describing your particular ethnicity in what you perceived as a negative light, would you really be saying the same thing? I think not. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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PurpleKnight said: pennylover said: Just sit back and enjoy the music. It is absolutely beautiful....A Masterpiece
A truly stupid comment. Not to say that TRC is definitely prejudiced towards any particular group, but people have every right to be concerned if they believe Prince might've been expressing anti-semitic views on the album. Just sit back and enjoy the music? So if Prince released a song describing your particular ethnicity in what you perceived as a negative light, would you really be saying the same thing? I think not. Look I don't read in2 that anti-semitic madiness that u claim he is saying. U r putting 2 much in2 this and further more I said sit back and injoy the music which is beautiful. It's simple, hell if u don't like the cd don't play it. Sorry u feel that its anti-semitic because I don't. Enough said on this subject. Peace |
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PurpleKnight said: pennylover said: Just sit back and enjoy the music. It is absolutely beautiful....A Masterpiece
A truly stupid comment. Not to say that TRC is definitely prejudiced towards any particular group, but people have every right to be concerned if they believe Prince might've been expressing anti-semitic views on the album. Just sit back and enjoy the music? So if Prince released a song describing your particular ethnicity in what you perceived as a negative light, would you really be saying the same thing? I think not. How u feel is stupid 2 me so now what  |
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