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Reply #60 posted 10/16/06 3:46am

metalorange

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SoulAlive said:

ElCapitan said:

the Lovesexy title track wasn't radio friendly at all, imho. It's fun, but it's also long, meandering, and average as Prince dance songs go. At that point R&B radio wasn't too far gone to pick up on a non-single Prince track and play it anyway and they had zero interest in Lovesexy.


I think "Lovesexy" (the song) is the most obvious "hit" on the album.Most of the other songs on the album are not commercial or radio-friendly at all."Lovesexy" is fast and funky with an incredible bassline.I see no reason why it couldn't have been a big hit in the summer of 1988.Of course,they would have had to release a single edit.The dirty talk with Cat would have been edited out,as it's unlikely that a radio station would play a song with lines like "You got me drippin all over the floor",lol.

btw,did you know that Prince was actually planning to release this song as a single? Remixes were made,too.But he changed his mind at the last minute mad
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I don't agree that Lovesexy was the most 'obvious' hit - clearly that was Alphabet St., and it was. Beyond that song, I don't think there were any clear single choices on the album. Lovesexy would have been a brave choice since it sounded unlike anything Prince had done previously or that was around at the time. The idea that you would have to cut out the best bits to make it radio friendly... well if that doesn't diminish the impact of the song, I don't know what would! Personally I thought 'Dance On' got completely overlooked as a potential single, and still does.
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Reply #61 posted 10/16/06 3:53am

SoulAlive

metalorange said:

SoulAlive said:



I think "Lovesexy" (the song) is the most obvious "hit" on the album.Most of the other songs on the album are not commercial or radio-friendly at all."Lovesexy" is fast and funky with an incredible bassline.I see no reason why it couldn't have been a big hit in the summer of 1988.Of course,they would have had to release a single edit.The dirty talk with Cat would have been edited out,as it's unlikely that a radio station would play a song with lines like "You got me drippin all over the floor",lol.

btw,did you know that Prince was actually planning to release this song as a single? Remixes were made,too.But he changed his mind at the last minute mad


I don't agree that Lovesexy was the most 'obvious' hit - clearly that was Alphabet St., and it was. Beyond that song, I don't think there were any clear single choices on the album. Lovesexy would have been a brave choice since it sounded unlike anything Prince had done previously or that was around at the time. The idea that you would have to cut out the best bits to make it radio friendly... well if that doesn't diminish the impact of the song, I don't know what would! Personally I thought 'Dance On' got completely overlooked as a potential single, and still does.



With the song "Lovesexy",you only would have to edit out the nasty spoken part at the end.I like this part alot,but it's hardly the "best" part of the song,anyway.Removing it would not diminish the song one bit.It would be similar to the radio edit of "IIWYGF",where he edited out the spoken parts at the end.There's no way radio stations would have played the part where he says "kiss you there,you know,down there where it comes...I'll drink every ounce" lol


"Dance On" a single? I think it was too edgy for pop radio.Imo,these should have been the three singles from Lovesexy:

"Alphabet St"
"Lovesexy"
"I Wish U Heaven"
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Reply #62 posted 10/16/06 1:05pm

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There was a radio edit and 12" remix made for Lovesexy, and it almost WAS the
2nd single. Prince had originally wanted Glam Slam to be the 2nd single, and
WB had them pressed up ready to go, but then, only a few weeks before it was
due for release, Prince decided it was the wrong choice for the 2nd single and
tried to get the release stopped. WB argued that because it had already been
pressed, and the radio & video promos had already gone out, that it was too
late to stop it, and they might as well let it go and see how it did. Prince
was right, and it didn't do very well. For some strange reason though, he
didn't follow Glam Slam up with the already prepared Lovesexy single, instead
deciding to go with I Wish U Heaven.
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Reply #63 posted 10/16/06 2:22pm

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SoulAlive said:

"Private Joy" should have been a single.It's the best song on 'Controversy' and I think it would have fared well as a single.

I agree with you,Crozza..."The Beautiful Ones" should have been the fifth and final single from 'Purple Rain' instead of the less exciting "Take Me With U".But you don't seriously believe that "Head" should have been a single,do you? lol


Am I the only one who thinks that "The Future" would have been a strong single?



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I remember back in the day in the SF Bay Area they used to play "Private Joy" all of the time even without it being released as a single.

And it used to be in all the Prince mega-mixes they did on the radio at that time.
"Always blessings, never losses......"

Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!

mad I'm a guy!!!!

"....i can open my-eyes "underwater"..there4 i will NOT drown...." - mzkqueen03 eek lol
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Reply #64 posted 10/16/06 2:38pm

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SoulAlive said:

"Private Joy" should have been a single.


It was
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Reply #65 posted 10/16/06 2:56pm

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iconsweat said:

SoulAlive said:

"Private Joy" should have been a single.


It was


eek

Really??? When and where was it released as a single?
"Always blessings, never losses......"

Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!

mad I'm a guy!!!!

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Reply #66 posted 10/16/06 2:59pm

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Sowhat said:

iconsweat said:



It was


eek

Really??? When and where was it released as a single?



B-side to Do Me Baby
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Reply #67 posted 10/16/06 4:53pm

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Arh come on isn't THIS the reason that we ALL love him!

Picks the wrongs songs, doesn't know how to market himself, is seen as weird when actually he's probably boringly normal, pretends he doesn't want to be cool and good-looking when really he does, write songs about sex to pretend he's cool, knows deep down his guitar is just a prop, wear's high heels because he hates being short, tries to pretend he doesn't care what anyone says about him, in the shallow world of pop is deep and philosophical and wears his heart on his sleeve about religion.

In short we love him because he's just like the rest of us vulnerable and flawed and as much in the dark about life as the next man.

Well that's why I love him anyway!

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Shut up already, damn.
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Reply #68 posted 10/16/06 5:03pm

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ElCapitan said:

Sowhat said:



eek

Really??? When and where was it released as a single?



B-side to Do Me Baby


PJ charted on rnb charts. I remember KUTE used to play it a lot.
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Reply #69 posted 10/16/06 5:09pm

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The problem for me is I find it hard to dislike a lot of his music so I don't mind any of his choices.

Prince is for discerning fans who want more than a quick hit. Take a song like Anna Stasia or Sometimes It Snows in April. They are like WOW songs but they are definately not radio friendly.

How can you chose between The Beautiful Ones and Take Me With You? You watch him sing Take Me With You live and it's irresitible not to join in. It's such a great sing-a-long song. The Beautiful Ones is slower but equally as good. But can you see radio listeners listen to the bit at the end where he's practically crying? That doesn't seem like radio music. It's far too personal and real.

Radio listeners want instant gratification. Something that they can listen to with there friends and not feel embarrased or shy. Radio music rarely depicts genuine emotion. It's usually the radio friendly kind. "Hey boyfriend" that kind of thing.

It depicts a world wear women giggle and wave at boys and boys give sly looks and everyone lives happily ever after. Even bands like Coldplay don't sing about anything much. "And it was all yellow.." What the hell does that mean??

Okay there are odd exceptions like Nirvana and Radiohead but they rarely spell things out in the way Prince does. Take for example "Bambie I've got what you need. Bambi maybe you need to bleed" Talk about to the point.

Prince is unforgivingly honest and not everyone is quite so comfortable with that. We like to live in a world where everything is politically correct and people are scared to speak their minds incase they get called rascists, sexist homophobic, etc.

But Prince says it in a way where we know it is not deliberately to upset people. It is just coming from the heart. In a sense he proclaims truth in his music and in essence as a society er are not all comfortable with that!
Shut up already, damn.
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Reply #70 posted 10/16/06 5:47pm

POOK

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Se7en said:

My only complaints for lead singles have been Betcha By Golly Wow and Te Amo Corazon.

I thought The Greatest Romance was a good choice for Rave, but if the previous album had lead off with a rocker, this would've been a change. But it was just more of the same.

The next CD should most definitely lead off with a hard rocker.


NO WAY SE7EN

EVERYONE ELSE HAVE HIT DUET WITH GWEN STEFANI THAT YEAR

PRINCE MISS BOAT ON THAT ONE

THERE IT GO WAY DOWN RIVER!

BYE BYE BOAT WITH GWEN AND LOAD OF CASH!

TOOT TOOT!

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #71 posted 10/16/06 6:15pm

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POOK said:

Se7en said:

My only complaints for lead singles have been Betcha By Golly Wow and Te Amo Corazon.

I thought The Greatest Romance was a good choice for Rave, but if the previous album had lead off with a rocker, this would've been a change. But it was just more of the same.

The next CD should most definitely lead off with a hard rocker.


NO WAY SE7EN

EVERYONE ELSE HAVE HIT DUET WITH GWEN STEFANI THAT YEAR

PRINCE MISS BOAT ON THAT ONE

THERE IT GO WAY DOWN RIVER!

BYE BYE BOAT WITH GWEN AND LOAD OF CASH!

TOOT TOOT!


falloff
"when Im in those arms of yours I'm so gone"-With U/Janet
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Reply #72 posted 10/17/06 1:01am

SoulAlive

BorisFishpaw said:

There was a radio edit and 12" remix made for Lovesexy, and it almost WAS the
2nd single. Prince had originally wanted Glam Slam to be the 2nd single, and
WB had them pressed up ready to go, but then, only a few weeks before it was
due for release, Prince decided it was the wrong choice for the 2nd single and
tried to get the release stopped. WB argued that because it had already been
pressed, and the radio & video promos had already gone out, that it was too
late to stop it, and they might as well let it go and see how it did. Prince
was right, and it didn't do very well. For some strange reason though, he
didn't follow Glam Slam up with the already prepared Lovesexy single, instead
deciding to go with I Wish U Heaven.



Damn,Prince! lol He was so close to releasing the right single for once,lol
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Reply #73 posted 10/17/06 1:04am

SoulAlive

ElCapitan said:

Sowhat said:



eek

Really??? When and where was "Private Joy" released as a single?



B-side to Do Me Baby



No,I meant that it should have been an A-side single,as oppossed to a B-side wink
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Reply #74 posted 10/17/06 10:14am

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MendesCity said:

kpowers said:





But did Call my name exploded on the music charts??? Not really. Hey if reflection would of been release it would have gotten the grammy


Call My Name was definitely a big R&B hit, stuck around on the charts for a very long time.





Reflection would have done better on the R&B Charts.
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Reply #75 posted 10/17/06 10:51am

ElCapitan

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kpowers said:

MendesCity said:



Call My Name was definitely a big R&B hit, stuck around on the charts for a very long time.





Reflection would have done better on the R&B Charts.


Adult contemporary R&B, maybe. And that's a stretch.
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Reply #76 posted 10/17/06 2:58pm

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ElCapitan said:

kpowers said:






Reflection would have done better on the R&B Charts.


Adult contemporary R&B, maybe. And that's a stretch.




next to call my name, not really
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Reply #77 posted 10/17/06 3:32pm

ElCapitan

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kpowers said:

ElCapitan said:



Adult contemporary R&B, maybe. And that's a stretch.




next to call my name, not really


How many mellow acoustic R&B songs are on the airwaves nowadays?
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Reply #78 posted 10/17/06 3:43pm

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ElCapitan said:

kpowers said:





next to call my name, not really


How many mellow acoustic R&B songs are on the airwaves nowadays?




your getting off the topic
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Reply #79 posted 10/17/06 3:46pm

ElCapitan

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kpowers said:

ElCapitan said:



How many mellow acoustic R&B songs are on the airwaves nowadays?




your getting off the topic


The topic is what songs would make a good single. That song would not because the R&B airwaves of today ain't trying to hear that type of song, imho.


Lets just agree to disagree.

Or we could agree that I'm right and you're wrong, either way works for me.


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Reply #80 posted 10/17/06 4:02pm

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ElCapitan said:

kpowers said:





your getting off the topic


The topic is what songs would make a good single. That song would not because the R&B airwaves of today ain't trying to hear that type of song, imho.


Lets just agree to disagree.

Or we could agree that I'm right and you're wrong, either way works for me.


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I'm compairing call my name to reflection, doesn't matter what chart it is, I feel reflection would do better.
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Reply #81 posted 10/17/06 4:12pm

Illustrator

I'm sure they have been times when he's picked a few married people.
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Reply #82 posted 10/17/06 4:12pm

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kpowers said:

I'm compairing call my name to reflection, doesn't matter what chart it is, I feel reflection would do better.


You brought the R&B charts into this to begin with. Either way, it's a nice song, but it would've tanked as a single.

Call my name wasn't a major hit by any means, but it stayed around forever. And it's the first Prince song in a long time that I heard pre-teens spontaneously singing along to. It was definitely the safer choice between those two songs for radio, but it was also the right choice, imho.
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Reply #83 posted 10/17/06 4:23pm

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ElCapitan said:

kpowers said:

I'm compairing call my name to reflection, doesn't matter what chart it is, I feel reflection would do better.


You brought the R&B charts into this to begin with. Either way, it's a nice song, but it would've tanked as a single.

Call my name wasn't a major hit by any means, but it stayed around forever. And it's the first Prince song in a long time that I heard pre-teens spontaneously singing along to. It was definitely the safer choice between those two songs for radio, but it was also the right choice, imho.




If you read what you were replying to is that some one said call my name was a hit on the R&B charts, thus you responded to that remark
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Reply #84 posted 10/17/06 4:25pm

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kpowers said:


Reflection would have done better on the R&B Charts.
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Reply #85 posted 10/17/06 4:27pm

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ElCapitan said:

kpowers said:


Reflection would have done better on the R&B Charts.




mmmmm ok
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Reply #86 posted 10/18/06 4:26am

SoulAlive

The 'Graffiti Bridge' album is another example of the wrong singles being released."Thieves In The Temple" was a perfect choice for the lead-off single,but why did he follow it up with the uneventful "New Power Generation"? A stronger choice for the second single would have been "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" or "Elephants And Flowers".
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Reply #87 posted 10/18/06 4:54am

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The lead off single for Graffiti Bridge was originally scheduled to be
"The Question Of U". As is often the case with Prince albums, He then
recorded "Thieves In The Temple" at the last minute and released that
instead. There were plans to still release "The Question Of U" as the
2nd or 3rd single, as well as "Elephants & Flowers" which was also
slated for a single release. Also briefly considered for single releases
were "Tick Tick Bang" and "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got".
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Reply #88 posted 10/18/06 5:25am

SoulAlive

BorisFishpaw said:

The lead off single for Graffiti Bridge was originally scheduled to be
"The Question Of U". As is often the case with Prince albums, He then
recorded "Thieves In The Temple" at the last minute and released that
instead. There were plans to still release "The Question Of U" as the
2nd or 3rd single, as well as "Elephants & Flowers" which was also
slated for a single release. Also briefly considered for single releases
were "Tick Tick Bang" and "Can't Stop This Feeling I Got".



Yeah,I heard that "Question Of U" was originally planned as the first single.I think he even shot a video for it.I think it would have been an odd choice for a lead-off single.
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Reply #89 posted 10/18/06 5:45am

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There are a lot of songs I would have picked as singles, but here's the deal: I nthe last ten+ years, there haven't been a dozen hit songs by other artists that I would spend a cent on. The charts have been dominated by rap, hip-hop and horrible grunge for almost a decade and a half.

I can't stand any of that "music". (And somebody please shoot me if I'm ever again in a place where "SexyBack" is playing. Never mind, if that happens I'll gladly shoot myself.)

So, the songs I would have picked as singles probably wouldn't have sold in that climate. Therefore, I can't criticize Prince's selection of singles, because my picks would have bombed.
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