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PrintableLike someone already said 1+1+1 is 3 is way 2 funky and hope he plays it at the Super Bowl, 3121, Love, Black Sweat, Family Name just 2 name a few have the most funkest beats  | |
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skywalker said: 1.First off, it all depends on who's drawing Cassandra and who's drawing Barbara! Secondly, re-read my first sentence (the one you quoted by the way)and look at the several other posts talking about those guys and others making "better music" than Prince is right now. Rather than attacking me (thanks for using my quote by the way),realise that I'm being nuetral or if anything defending Prince by giving examples of the funk.
-[b]No matter who is drawing what version of Batgirl--she still pales in comparison to Batman. Same with Timbaland and Pharell. At their best their beats sound like recycled Prince beats. Old school Prince aside, there are beats on 3121 that are arguably better than Pharell or Timbaland. "3121" being one of them.[/b] 
2.3121 live is da shit. I've never said anything contrary to that. Check your facts kid!Not everybody here is negative.
I know you are not being negative, but again, I ask you--who says Pharell and Timbaland are "owning Prince" with their beats? [b]Seems like your point of view-negative or not.... [/b] | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: sitruk7 said: Um...can't beats be a part of music? I mean, I could understand you saying "Tim n Pharrel make beats not M-U-S-I-C" but to me saying Prince makes music not beats is like saying "Prince is a rocker,not a guitarist".Oh well...everybody has their opinion.
 Ummmm, I know that beats are parts of music. Which is why I said what I did. Just because I can throw a few things together and make some good dinners that people who'll eat anything love, that doesn't make me chef! Comparing my best dish with an appetizer from a real chef is just as pointless as this thread. | |
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Like I said before,my intention is to get people to discuss their opinions about certain subjects. That's all.This particular question was inspired by several other threads that implied that Prince can't do it like he used to.If you've read my other responses on this thread,I've said some pretty positive things about Prince's music.Hope that clears things up.
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Black Sweat is one of the strangest, funkiest Prince tracks - period. I find myself whistling that high-pitch intro all the time.
It's all about youth and new faces. Justin Timberlake is only 25 years old, compared to Prince at 48. When Prince was 25, he had already put out 1999 and was working on the Purple Rain film/album. So that's a good comparison: is this album as good as Purple Rain? Was Justified as good as 1999? |
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One of my favorite funkiest song by Prince is MAD SEX & COME ON! I know it's kinda old, but that's the first 2 songs I think of as funky. | |
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adorable2 said: Calhoun Square comes to mind but there have been others since. I like the groove on The Word. And yes percussion or as some call it "beats" count as music. Imagine Black Sweat without drums and then you tell me if it should be considered as part of music. The thing about Timbaland and Pharell is their percussion sounds are not as diverse as Prince's. Imagine Pharell coming up with something like Hide The Bone or Calhoun Square or Rock Hard In A Funky Place. Pharell and Timbaland's beats are almost always very cold and poppish. Either they're like that or they're rip offs of P's beats like when Pharrell kept revamping and recycling the beat to Nasty Girl. Timbaland's beats all sound similar too.
Sorry to say this, but some of you seem to be a bit too fanatic when it comes to Prince. Don't get me wrong, I think he is the greatest ever, but he ain't always been on the top of the game musically or commercially... Listen to Timbalands work on Bubba Sparxxx Deliverance and Neptunes work on Kelis Kaleidoscope. I'm telling you, Prince in this period was mos def not outshining these producers. If Timbo is mad cause you think his music sounds too synthetic, he could hire a band and make them play the got damn songs in a more organic way if you'd want that. These dudes has also made alot of classics. Of course not as much as Prince, but they have made some tunes that will stay for a long time. | |
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Se7en said: Black Sweat is one of the strangest, funkiest Prince tracks - period. I find myself whistling that high-pitch intro all the time.
It's all about youth and new faces. Justin Timberlake is only 25 years old, compared to Prince at 48. When Prince was 25, he had already put out 1999 and was working on the Purple Rain film/album. So that's a good comparison: is this album as good as Purple Rain? Was Justified as good as 1999? Timberlake doesn't make beats btw. But truth, if Timberlake was singing on that beat, it would probably be a MAJOR hit just because he's young, and all the chicks love him. | |
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skywalker said: 2. "3121" (especially live) eats Pharell and Timbaland for breakfast. Hell, Ready for the World's "oh Sheila" eat Pharell and Timbaland for breakfast.[/b]
 So true, so true! Prince is still making GREAT music. I don't know what is wrong with some of you who are reaching back two decades for examples. I am sitting here jammin to The Word as I type this. The Word is one of the best songs I have heard from anyone in ages! It's a travesty that 3121 didn't receive more airplay, but who cares. At the end of the day, I LOVE this CD so I don't give a damn what anyone thinks. 
Oh and btw, Prince has so many "funky ass beats" that I can't name them all. But I know one thing, I don't have to travel in a time machine to find them. As I type I am thinking of Props & Pounds. The modulation on that song kills the game everytime I listen to it. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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I'm gonna go with "Love".
I haven't listened to 3121 in a while..but when I think about it,that's the only song that comes to mind. It(Love), was worthy of a re-mix and a video  my phone is heavy | |
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Alphabet St.  | |
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AvramsDad said: Alphabet St.
That was Sheila E! | |
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mikek1 said: AvramsDad said: Alphabet St.
That was Sheila E! Maybe the percussion, but I know a drum machine when I hear one. | |
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AvramsDad said: mikek1 said: That was Sheila E! Maybe the percussion, but I know a drum machine when I hear one. It was sheila! Same with pop life, u got the look and a few other tracks! | |
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njin said: adorable2 said: Calhoun Square comes to mind but there have been others since. I like the groove on The Word. And yes percussion or as some call it "beats" count as music. Imagine Black Sweat without drums and then you tell me if it should be considered as part of music. The thing about Timbaland and Pharell is their percussion sounds are not as diverse as Prince's. Imagine Pharell coming up with something like Hide The Bone or Calhoun Square or Rock Hard In A Funky Place. Pharell and Timbaland's beats are almost always very cold and poppish. Either they're like that or they're rip offs of P's beats like when Pharrell kept revamping and recycling the beat to Nasty Girl. Timbaland's beats all sound similar too.
Sorry to say this, but some of you seem to be a bit too fanatic when it comes to Prince. Don't get me wrong, I think he is the greatest ever, but he ain't always been on the top of the game musically or commercially... Listen to Timbalands work on Bubba Sparxxx Deliverance and Neptunes work on Kelis Kaleidoscope. I'm telling you, Prince in this period was mos def not outshining these producers. If Timbo is mad cause you think his music sounds too synthetic, he could hire a band and make them play the got damn songs in a more organic way if you'd want that. These dudes has also made alot of classics. Of course not as much as Prince, but they have made some tunes that will stay for a long time. Well I'm not sorry to say this. No one here even mentioned times in producer's career. Anyway there was nothing fanatical about my post because I answered the question in my own opinion. Anyway you're comparing P to producers who arguably wouldn't have any basis for their music had Prince never come out. Like I said before those cats aren't doing anything nearly as diverse or innovative as P. If in 2001 Pharell has reworked and played with the Nasty Girl beat at least 5 times thats a testament to what I'm saying. You can't compare P's funky beats with those who have come AFTER him because I'll bet you any amount of money at some point they are experimenting with a musical idea that has been influenced in some way form or fashion by Prince! I appreciate P because he has so many different takes on funky. What's My Name is funky but then again there's Musicology and the two are nothing alike. Pharell and Timbaland may seem miles ahead of Prince when he was in their stage in his career because Prince has already set musical precedence not because they are more prodigous. | |
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adorable2 said: njin said: Sorry to say this, but some of you seem to be a bit too fanatic when it comes to Prince. Don't get me wrong, I think he is the greatest ever, but he ain't always been on the top of the game musically or commercially... Listen to Timbalands work on Bubba Sparxxx Deliverance and Neptunes work on Kelis Kaleidoscope. I'm telling you, Prince in this period was mos def not outshining these producers. If Timbo is mad cause you think his music sounds too synthetic, he could hire a band and make them play the got damn songs in a more organic way if you'd want that. These dudes has also made alot of classics. Of course not as much as Prince, but they have made some tunes that will stay for a long time. Well I'm not sorry to say this. No one here even mentioned times in producer's career. Anyway there was nothing fanatical about my post because I answered the question in my own opinion. Anyway you're comparing P to producers who arguably wouldn't have any basis for their music had Prince never come out. Like I said before those cats aren't doing anything nearly as diverse or innovative as P. If in 2001 Pharell has reworked and played with the Nasty Girl beat at least 5 times thats a testament to what I'm saying. You can't compare P's funky beats with those who have come AFTER him because I'll bet you any amount of money at some point they are experimenting with a musical idea that has been influenced in some way form or fashion by Prince! I appreciate P because he has so many different takes on funky. What's My Name is funky but then again there's Musicology and the two are nothing alike. Pharell and Timbaland may seem miles ahead of Prince when he was in their stage in his career because Prince has already set musical precedence not because they are more prodigous. Pharell loves Prince; he said so himself; that says it all! | |
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mikek1 said: adorable2 said: Well I'm not sorry to say this. No one here even mentioned times in producer's career. Anyway there was nothing fanatical about my post because I answered the question in my own opinion. Anyway you're comparing P to producers who arguably wouldn't have any basis for their music had Prince never come out. Like I said before those cats aren't doing anything nearly as diverse or innovative as P. If in 2001 Pharell has reworked and played with the Nasty Girl beat at least 5 times thats a testament to what I'm saying. You can't compare P's funky beats with those who have come AFTER him because I'll bet you any amount of money at some point they are experimenting with a musical idea that has been influenced in some way form or fashion by Prince! I appreciate P because he has so many different takes on funky. What's My Name is funky but then again there's Musicology and the two are nothing alike. Pharell and Timbaland may seem miles ahead of Prince when he was in their stage in his career because Prince has already set musical precedence not because they are more prodigous. Pharell loves Prince; he said so himself; that says it all! Yeah and I think that's cool. But its like for some reason when people get to comparing new jacks to Prince and start raving about how hot these new producers are, they totally ignore the possibility that P is most likely a big reason and influence on most of these new cats output. I have definitely danced to Pharell and Timbaland's music from their onset, but when comparing their music to P's you have to put things in a proper perspective. But you can definitely tell Pharell is a listener of P and I think thats a good thing. [Edited 9/16/06 13:44pm] | |
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mikek1 said: AvramsDad said: Maybe the percussion, but I know a drum machine when I hear one. It was sheila! Same with pop life, u got the look and a few other tracks! Sorry, but those are sampled drums. Same with U Got The Look. Again, Sheila may have played some percussion atop said drums, but they are programmed nonetheless. Pop Life was however properly accredited to Sheila. Prove me wrong with a reference and I will bow down. | |
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AvramsDad said: mikek1 said: It was sheila! Same with pop life, u got the look and a few other tracks! Sorry, but those are sampled drums. Same with U Got The Look. Again, Sheila may have played some percussion atop said drums, but they are programmed nonetheless. Pop Life was however properly accredited to Sheila. Prove me wrong with a reference and I will bow down. ERM.. ALBUM CREDITS; DRUMS AND PERCUSSION SHEILA E! | |
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mikek1 said: AvramsDad said: Sorry, but those are sampled drums. Same with U Got The Look. Again, Sheila may have played some percussion atop said drums, but they are programmed nonetheless. Pop Life was however properly accredited to Sheila. Prove me wrong with a reference and I will bow down. ERM.. ALBUM CREDITS; DRUMS AND PERCUSSION SHEILA E! not that Wikpedia is the be-all-end-all, but http://en.wikipedia.org/w...phabet_St. http://en.wikipedia.org/w...t_the_Look Touche on U Got The Look  | |
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sitruk7 said: vainandy said: "Love"
Ah, another good one! Yes! "Love" is one of the baddest jams Prince has done in a long time. That breakdown at the end is a guaranteed ass shaker. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Yes! "Love" is one of the baddest jams Prince has done in a long time. That breakdown at the end is a guaranteed ass shaker. That used a sample! | |
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mikek1 said: vainandy said: Yes! "Love" is one of the baddest jams Prince has done in a long time. That breakdown at the end is a guaranteed ass shaker. That used a sample!  | |
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calldapplwondery83 said: mikek1 said: That used a sample! Yup.  | |
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