Nat Turner was banned from the org
Guess big ole masta did not like
Nat Turner's activities
but how is it that of all the things that happen
and Nat Turner is banned?
all the things people say about African Americans
and yet they were not banned
was big masta in da heaben
scared
I have read worse on this site by other posters
but they are still free to do and say as they please
oh those people are white
maybe that's it

hmmm. u may have a point there...but since I've only been on the Org for a week and a half, i've yet 2 experience any discrimination...and i hope i don't either. shit will get real ugly.

I think Marcus Garvey is Nat Turner!!!

Hahaha it's both a blessing and a curse the moderatorship here probably haven't ever heard of "Nat Turner" or "Marcus Garvey". Least the IDs won't get found out.

MarcusGarvey said:[quote]all the things people say about African Americans and yet they were not banned{quote]

Want to give an example this?

I think billysparxx is IrishEcho.

ZaZa said:[quote]

MarcusGarvey said:

Punkbible raved on about "Spear chuckers returning to Africa if they don't like it here in USA" with a whole lot of other racist rhetoric and admits he's racist. He's not been deleted.

JNoel said "***ing Muslim Pakis". He's still here.

There's two.

Umm...he was not banned from the org because he posted on the thread asking about whether he was banned.

Pay attention.

Essence said:[quote]

ZaZa said:

is this so?...hmmm I think I know who punkbible is...I have to investigate

RD, I doubt it's the same person.

Supernova said:

After some quick investigation I think it may not be that same person either..but Im not yet convinced completely. And Im not talking about Irish either.

please Marcus Garvey, be careful with the name you use. I know you only posted 5 times (until now) so please be careful and keep the pride this name stands for. Thanks bro.

rdhull said:[quote]

Essence said:

Well his name is officially "Funkbible" but a re-naming seemed apt.

The whole thread is deleted now it was on the "Reparations March: Will Prince attend?" thread.

That particular thread (and it's like) being deleted alone above others here also gives weight to Nat/Marcus' claims too IMO.

u be careful with the name u use

agotajonesmartha said:

Gnat Turner? Aw quit trying to start trouble amongst races.

I am !! It's mine, after all.

sag10 said:

at "gnat"

Marcus, and I speak to as brotha to brotha...

if you invested this much time in fighting for our rights on a trifling website into real life situations (ie perhaps mentoring a troubled kid; writing to our congressmen about injustices and corruption within our police departments, etc) then maybe your voracious points of view would have more weight.

but here...

on this website?

dude, come on.

yo dog
already done, doing, and did that

nLA said:

MarcusGarvey said:

bro, then why stir up a ruckus with Prince? that would be like me saying to you, "bro, your 69 impala you got is sweet, you should sell it to me and make some mad flow -- i'll pay top dollar!" -- but it's your car and you detailed and restored it and its pristine... you dont want to give it up.. so no matter how much i may fight with you and love you... you are not gonna give up that car till your ready... and you would not like me one bit if i took the keys for a joy ride and merely "borrowed" it.

ya'll got to take the time to empathize -- and look, I for one think Prince needs a good swift kick in the pants for his business practices, but its his business precisely and if he's foolish enough to make those decisions and alienate his fan base then thats what hes gonna do and by his own folly.

why even go on about it here? where as good as your intentions may be, you come across as emotional and vindictive and act as if something is owed to you --- or am i completely misconstruing this?

lemme know bro, cuz you dont help the cause if your on the negative tip.

i completely misconstruing this
yes u are
and spending 2 much time bumping your gums
since when are people not allowed to discuss?
oh, when u arrived

nLA said:

MarcusGarvey said:

Marcus, a civil rights attorney was consulted on this issue. know that there are many eyes watching the org right now, and that pressure is being put on Prince to make a statement about the treatment of African Americans on a site that is dedicated to a black artist whether it is an"unofficial" site or not.

The attorney stated that legally there is really nothing that can be done, however in principle there is alot that can be done. He also stated that if the moderators claim that they can delete threads and posts without any notice or explanation, and if there is some inconsistency in this practice, then indeed they can be held accountable.

It's time to get organized, and it's time to get professional. No more name calling, and bashing, it's time to effectively articulate our "issues" as a group, and sit down and dialogue with the moderators..this is truely an issue that needs to be addressed by prince.org, because a storm is indeed brewing. Together we can get through this thing, but not by causing animosity between people, but working together to keep prince.org going and turn it into a positive fan based community, based on the teachings of Prince's music.

I often wonder about TRC, and the "digital garden" that Prince talks about. I think it is referring to all the websites and chatrooms dedicated to prince. What was that invisible deed that Prince spoke of? Did he make a deal w/ Prince.org to leave them open regardless of what goes on here? Cause I just don't get why so many fan based sites were shut down, and this one is allowed to function in it's current state of chaos confusion and negativity... I think that the org has a great potential to bring Prince's fan's together and to do wonderful things, but not if there is animosity among it's members... and yes I understand that most online sites have issues, but shouldn't we as a prince based community strive for a higher standard??? based on ethics and principles??? Just some food for thought...We can start with turning this small international community around, and then take those lessons and ideals and apply them to the world around us...

My dialogue w/ bonojr..mr ultra-conservative goes to prove, that once u get past the name calling, and anger, u can actually find common ground, and u can actually openly dialogue on issues without disrespecting eachother... I agree with nLA about fighting for your rights in real life, outside of cyber space...but injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere...and I receive org notes from many black orger's who are very hurt and full of resentment towards the org because it does seem that they have 2 sets of rules and this issue needs to be addressed in a professional and respectful manner.

People say, well if u don't like it, why don't u leave? Well that's the easy way out, we stay because we have faith in the human spirit, and the human potential to rise above negativity, and we stay because we have met some beautiful friends here on the org, and because we have had more positive experiences here than negative...let's work togther to make the changes necessary to make prince.org a beautiful place to be...in love and light...Eos..."Goddess of the Dawn"

MarcusGarvey said:

are you ignorant as well as stubborn to realize that i am "discussing" -- thats how a discussion takes place, dawg.. or do you NOT know the art of expressing your views, then having someone give their take on your views and offering up their own in return?

i wasnt trying to burn you, i processed the info the way i saw it and was asking you if i was correct in my assesment of your view.

learn to relate instead of being so constipated dawg. damn.

great
but yo
this deserves to be posted in a seperate tread
people gotta hear this

free Nat Turner

eos23 said:

[This message was edited Wed Aug 14 11:45:52 PDT 2002 by MarcusGarvey]

Why is NatTurner's org account still active if they (allegedly) got banned?


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[This message was edited Wed Aug 14 11:46:39 PDT 2002 by RandomDuck]

Ok
I got U

nLA said:

Account deactivated
Sorry, your account has been deactivated.
Nat Turner

RandomDuck said:

Free nat turner

EOS...

if its tried and true that Matt, Ben and Val have allowed the ORG to become a cess pool of racist remarks, ethnic slurs and just downright nastiness -- then yes, there is a very real and practical way to convey the message.

a public posting satirizing the ordeal by calling out them "massas" is a bit ineffective IMHO.

however, has anyone contacted the moderators in a sane tone and explained the frustration, not merely been frustrated AT THEM?

this place aint easy to manage and post like these dont necessarily "bring the message to light"... its seems less constructive and more condusive to the problem.

MarcusGarvey said:

Looks like it is still active to me:
http://www.prince.org/profile/natturner