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Radio is dead. Prince rules all. Let's face it. Prince isn't as "comercially popular" as he once was. He sells less albums, has no new songs on the radio, and is barely ever on MTV. Well who the fuck cares?
The radio, the charts, MTV- they are all a sham and have been for a long time. Aerosmith-a great rock band- have had only one song in their damn near 30 year career to hit the #1 spot. That song was "I don't wanna miss a thing". Is it a coincidence that this song was also tied to a major hollywood movie? No. More people were gettin' paid from that song's "success" than were from "Janie's got a gun" so it charted better. Who even decides the "top 40"? Do you honestly think it is people requesting songs over the phone? It's not. The radio, MTV, and the charts are, like most things, not really based on popular "taste" but who is gettin' paid. Odd how once Prince-in Jay Leno's words "The most creative person in music"- isn't in a position to make a record company money that he can't get on the radio, MTV, or the charts. It ain't that he's lost his talent it's that he has ditched his corporate backers. Prince is ,like always, a trend setter. He saw this music industry/corporate bullshit 10 years before anyone gave a damn. Welcome to the future Michael Jackson. Your ass is on the chopping block and changing your name to a symbol won't save you. Why? Because you don't play all your own instruments, produce and write your own material. Michael you aren't self sufficient. Who's BAD? And that's all I got 2 say bout that. PS. Why is Springsteem on the cover of Rolling stone? A. Because he hasn't "lost his touch" B. Because young audiences love older rock stars. C. Because he is signed with a huge record label. "New Power slide...." |
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skywalker said: Let's face it. Prince isn't as "comercially popular" as he once was.
PS. Why is Springsteem on the cover of Rolling stone?
A. Because he hasn't "lost his touch" C. Because he is signed with a huge record label. A & C. But add: Rolling Stone has ALWAYS loved Springsteen. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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cough cough...bullshit...cough cough  | |
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how long did it take u 2 figure this all out, exactly?  | |
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Anyone notice that MTV plays a lot of New York City friendly artists? I noticed a few consecutive videos today all featuring New York underground artists who've barely even made the charts... yet. Good for those bands, I guess, but why must New York decide what the rest of the country wants to hear? Maybe there should be an MTV for every major town, at least, playing the videos each of our communities wants to see... including local bands... oh yeah, we do have something like that... it's called public access television. Oh well... New York, dance on. | |
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skywalker said: Let's face it. Prince isn't as "comercially popular" as he once was. He sells less albums, has no new songs on the radio, and is barely ever on MTV. Well who the fuck cares?
The radio, the charts, MTV- they are all a sham and have been for a long time. Aerosmith-a great rock band- have had only one song in their damn near 30 year career to hit the #1 spot. That song was "I don't wanna miss a thing". Is it a coincidence that this song was also tied to a major hollywood movie? No. More people were gettin' paid from that song's "success" than were from "Janie's got a gun" so it charted better. Who even decides the "top 40"? Do you honestly think it is people requesting songs over the phone? It's not. The radio, MTV, and the charts are, like most things, not really based on popular "taste" but who is gettin' paid. Odd how once Prince-in Jay Leno's words "The most creative person in music"- isn't in a position to make a record company money that he can't get on the radio, MTV, or the charts. It ain't that he's lost his talent it's that he has ditched his corporate backers. Prince is ,like always, a trend setter. He saw this music industry/corporate bullshit 10 years before anyone gave a damn. Welcome to the future Michael Jackson. Your ass is on the chopping block and changing your name to a symbol won't save you. Why? Because you don't play all your own instruments, produce and write your own material. Michael you aren't self sufficient. Who's BAD? And that's all I got 2 say bout that. PS. Why is Springsteem on the cover of Rolling stone? A. Because he hasn't "lost his touch" B. Because young audiences love older rock stars. C. Because he is signed with a huge record label. :worship. Finally, some1 with their head outside of their ass. How could I mess up one sentence?.... [This message was edited Fri Aug 16 21:12:53 PDT 2002 by Nep2nes] | |
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skywalker said: Let's face it. Prince isn't as "comercially popular" as he once was. He sells less albums, has no new songs on the radio, and is barely ever on MTV. Well who the fuck cares?
The radio, the charts, MTV- they are all a sham and have been for a long time. Aerosmith-a great rock band- have had only one song in their damn near 30 year career to hit the #1 spot. That song was "I don't wanna miss a thing". Is it a coincidence that this song was also tied to a major hollywood movie? No. More people were gettin' paid from that song's "success" than were from "Janie's got a gun" so it charted better. Who even decides the "top 40"? Do you honestly think it is people requesting songs over the phone? It's not. The radio, MTV, and the charts are, like most things, not really based on popular "taste" but who is gettin' paid. Odd how once Prince-in Jay Leno's words "The most creative person in music"- isn't in a position to make a record company money that he can't get on the radio, MTV, or the charts. It ain't that he's lost his talent it's that he has ditched his corporate backers. Prince is ,like always, a trend setter. He saw this music industry/corporate bullshit 10 years before anyone gave a damn. Welcome to the future Michael Jackson. Your ass is on the chopping block and changing your name to a symbol won't save you. Why? Because you don't play all your own instruments, produce and write your own material. Michael you aren't self sufficient. Who's BAD? And that's all I got 2 say bout that. PS. Why is Springsteem on the cover of Rolling stone? A. Because he hasn't "lost his touch" B. Because young audiences love older rock stars. C. Because he is signed with a huge record label. === does prince make many of his current songs enjoyable to listen to?! why else would orgsters would ask if he lost it or say they aren't feeling his music as much? just becuase he is capable of using insturments,etc. don't mean he can make great songs that are apparently visible on his past albums. just becuase he can do all... when he makes great, enjoyable songs that don't require someone to look past the questionable lyrics, or re-listen months after is when he'll be ok. btw, wasn't he the one who turned down doing the BAD thing? and why of all the other successful MUSICIANS who complained about the industry are u comparing it to an artist who goes out on his way to sing,dance,play insturments,make history? and dear look at the credits of his albums or get the remastered albums...then u will find out what he produced,written, played,etc?! prince was one of the few ones who talked about the record industry majorly, but his methods got what done besides for runing what was left of mainstream career and being considered from now on as the slave/symbol guy?! but i do agree on the fact that a lot is bought by money. but it stays if the songs are damn well worth listening to. | |
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When has Prince ever REALLY been "commercially popular" as you put it?
In my opinion the answer would be never. It used to make me angry because I felt like people were missing out on something extraordinary. I have always tried to share Prince's music with as many people as possible. But, then I realized, hey, it's their loss. No matter how many crazy things Prince may decide to do, I will always be a fan of his music. After so many years, it's just a part of me now. MTV is only interested in you if your name is Britney or you are in a boy band. They have no fucking clue what real music is. Just accept it and move on, and keep listening to Prince. You will be alot happier. | |
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Glad he is a cult figure musically---hope
he stays that way. He doesn't need any tourette promoting industry. | |
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subyduby said: does prince make many of his current songs enjoyable to listen to?! why else would orgsters would ask if he lost it or say they aren't feeling his music as much? just becuase he is capable of using insturments,etc. don't mean he can make great songs that are apparently visible on his past albums. just becuase he can do all... when he makes great, enjoyable songs that don't require someone to look past the questionable lyrics, or re-listen months after is when he'll be ok. btw, wasn't he the one who turned down doing the BAD thing? and why of all the other successful MUSICIANS who complained about the industry are u comparing it to an artist who goes out on his way to sing,dance,play insturments,make history? and dear look at the credits of his albums or get the remastered albums...then u will find out what he produced,written, played,etc?!
prince was one of the few ones who talked about the record industry majorly, but his methods got what done besides for runing what was left of mainstream career and being considered from now on as the slave/symbol guy?! but i do agree on the fact that a lot is bought by money. but it stays if the songs are damn well worth listening to. You rarely make _ANY_ sense.  | |
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skywalker said: Let's face it. Prince isn't as "comercially popular" as he once was. He sells less albums, has no new songs on the radio, and is barely ever on MTV. Well who the fuck cares?
The radio, the charts, MTV- they are all a sham and have been for a long time. Aerosmith-a great rock band- have had only one song in their damn near 30 year career to hit the #1 spot. That song was "I don't wanna miss a thing". Is it a coincidence that this song was also tied to a major hollywood movie? No. More people were gettin' paid from that song's "success" than were from "Janie's got a gun" so it charted better. Who even decides the "top 40"? Do you honestly think it is people requesting songs over the phone? It's not. The radio, MTV, and the charts are, like most things, not really based on popular "taste" but who is gettin' paid. Odd how once Prince-in Jay Leno's words "The most creative person in music"- isn't in a position to make a record company money that he can't get on the radio, MTV, or the charts. It ain't that he's lost his talent it's that he has ditched his corporate backers. Prince is ,like always, a trend setter. He saw this music industry/corporate bullshit 10 years before anyone gave a damn. Welcome to the future Michael Jackson. Your ass is on the chopping block and changing your name to a symbol won't save you. Why? Because you don't play all your own instruments, produce and write your own material. Michael you aren't self sufficient. Who's BAD? And that's all I got 2 say bout that. PS. Why is Springsteem on the cover of Rolling stone? A. Because he hasn't "lost his touch" B. Because young audiences love older rock stars. C. Because he is signed with a huge record label. dude u r a total fuckin looser | |
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I listen to Prince 90, or should I say 98% of the time. So what does that tell you about other 'commercially popular' music on my radio??? | |
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bottom line:
as soon as ANY artist asks for anything from a record label OR goes to the press about anything.. all of a sudden you aint hott. Music business runs and OWNS other "entertainment platforms".. MTV, Magazines, Billion Dollar PR. as soon as you Sign with them and give away everything (your "hot" "new" and any other word for SPIN..) it has NOTHING to do with the artist.. You are famous but POOR.. it is all ego, when you talk about them.. they spend a few million OR talk bad about you in magazines they own Warner Bros OWNS Entertainment Weekly.. Every Prince album they don't own gets a "C-" in their credicts section.. The new prince album they own all the rights too gets a "B - over higher" Madonna plays the game, and gets good press everywhere.. because THEY have their hands in the cookie jar (well more like you buy the ingredients and bake the cookies.. they eat them all.. but leave you the crumbs left in the Jar) * It has nothing to do about talent.. all it is who plays their game. IF you do, you are HUGE & HOT | |
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Starmist7 said: I listen to Prince 90, or should I say 98% of the time. So what does that tell you about other 'commercially popular' music on my radio???
your not trying hard enough to expand your musical pallet...theres *great* music out there...a whole lot better then prince's current stuff... but hey, believe whatever you want to believe...whatever floats your turd. | |
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subyduby said: skywalker said: Let's face it. Prince isn't as "comercially popular" as he once was. He sells less albums, has no new songs on the radio, and is barely ever on MTV. Well who the fuck cares?
The radio, the charts, MTV- they are all a sham and have been for a long time. Aerosmith-a great rock band- have had only one song in their damn near 30 year career to hit the #1 spot. That song was "I don't wanna miss a thing". Is it a coincidence that this song was also tied to a major hollywood movie? No. More people were gettin' paid from that song's "success" than were from "Janie's got a gun" so it charted better. Who even decides the "top 40"? Do you honestly think it is people requesting songs over the phone? It's not. The radio, MTV, and the charts are, like most things, not really based on popular "taste" but who is gettin' paid. Odd how once Prince-in Jay Leno's words "The most creative person in music"- isn't in a position to make a record company money that he can't get on the radio, MTV, or the charts. It ain't that he's lost his talent it's that he has ditched his corporate backers. Prince is ,like always, a trend setter. He saw this music industry/corporate bullshit 10 years before anyone gave a damn. Welcome to the future Michael Jackson. Your ass is on the chopping block and changing your name to a symbol won't save you. Why? Because you don't play all your own instruments, produce and write your own material. Michael you aren't self sufficient. Who's BAD? And that's all I got 2 say bout that. PS. Why is Springsteem on the cover of Rolling stone? A. Because he hasn't "lost his touch" B. Because young audiences love older rock stars. C. Because he is signed with a huge record label. === does prince make many of his current songs enjoyable to listen to?! why else would orgsters would ask if he lost it or say they aren't feeling his music as much? just becuase he is capable of using insturments,etc. don't mean he can make great songs that are apparently visible on his past albums. just becuase he can do all... when he makes great, enjoyable songs that don't require someone to look past the questionable lyrics, or re-listen months after is when he'll be ok. btw, wasn't he the one who turned down doing the BAD thing? and why of all the other successful MUSICIANS who complained about the industry are u comparing it to an artist who goes out on his way to sing,dance,play insturments,make history? and dear look at the credits of his albums or get the remastered albums...then u will find out what he produced,written, played,etc?! prince was one of the few ones who talked about the record industry majorly, but his methods got what done besides for runing what was left of mainstream career and being considered from now on as the slave/symbol guy?! but i do agree on the fact that a lot is bought by money. but it stays if the songs are damn well worth listening to. | |
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We are all RICHER knowing Prince's music.
We have richer minds, personalities and musical tastes. We are so lucky!!! FU*K the Radio! Who Cares? | |
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SkletonKee said: Starmist7 said: I listen to Prince 90, or should I say 98% of the time. So what does that tell you about other 'commercially popular' music on my radio???
your not trying hard enough to expand your musical pallet...theres *great* music out there...a whole lot better then prince's current stuff... but hey, believe whatever you want to believe...whatever floats your turd. Man, I notice you always trying to get people to think Prince's current work is inferior to everything else being made. Why don't you let her make up her own mind instead of calling her decision to listen to him a 'turd'. That's just lame and immature. | |
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Wolf said: Man, I notice you always trying to get people to think Prince's current work is inferior to everything else being made. Why don't you let her make up her own mind instead of calling her decision to listen to him a 'turd'. That's just lame and immature. you expect me (or anyone else) to take serious ones viewpoint when all the study is *one* subject? thats like asking a chef what they feel the best cuisine out there is when all they know how to cook is broiled chicken... and i didnt call her decision a turd...i think your biases against my posts are making you read things that arent existent...my *turd* comment was a joke...and within my post i confirmed that you have the right to believe what you want... but sure, im the lame and immature one...and how quick were you to make this discussion a personal one against me? and then call names?? ... mmm-kay!!! | |
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Wolf said: subyduby said: does prince make many of his current songs enjoyable to listen to?! why else would orgsters would ask if he lost it or say they aren't feeling his music as much? just becuase he is capable of using insturments,etc. don't mean he can make great songs that are apparently visible on his past albums. just becuase he can do all... when he makes great, enjoyable songs that don't require someone to look past the questionable lyrics, or re-listen months after is when he'll be ok. btw, wasn't he the one who turned down doing the BAD thing? and why of all the other successful MUSICIANS who complained about the industry are u comparing it to an artist who goes out on his way to sing,dance,play insturments,make history? and dear look at the credits of his albums or get the remastered albums...then u will find out what he produced,written, played,etc?!
prince was one of the few ones who talked about the record industry majorly, but his methods got what done besides for runing what was left of mainstream career and being considered from now on as the slave/symbol guy?! but i do agree on the fact that a lot is bought by money. but it stays if the songs are damn well worth listening to. You rarely make _ANY_ sense.  -------------------------------------------------
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Doing Movies & Movies is HIGH RISK!
Trying to be a musican & actor.. one of the 2 entertainment credicts will nail you! Prince rarely or never got bad press UNTIL "under the cherry moon" thats where all the negative press started for real.. because he made an aweful movie. * Thats whats so Risky about doing both because after you mess up in one.. they will always bring it up IN BOTH markets. Will Smith & J Lo.. must watch out because they are playing a tight rope.. IF they chose to do both.. because when 1 bombs (music).. YOU will start to lose you "Q Rating" withe the whole public. ** This is what happened with Prince.. Under the cherry moon then Lovesexy not being able to click around on a disk.. got the press getting ammo to nail you | |
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Don't believe the hype. Radio is not dead. Far from it. There is so much creative and exciting programs on the air. You just have to get off your thang and do the work to find it.
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I just got back from a week in Minn. Stayed more in St.Paul-it was a non-Prince related trip but the radio stations! Prince was right when he said the radio station suck in Minneapolis too! We couldn't find a good station all week! | |
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SkletonKee said: but hey, believe whatever you want to believe...whatever floats your turd.
What the heck is a turd????? If what you meant is 'whatever floats my boat' well then you got that one right. [This message was edited Sun Aug 18 18:21:14 PDT 2002 by Starmist7] | |
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SkletonKee said:[quote] Wolf said: you expect me (or anyone else) to take serious ones viewpoint when all the study is *one* subject? I've listened to other music (ofcourse), but I like Prince's the best. That's why I listen to him so much. BTW, thanks Wolf. When it comes to what I do for pleasure, believe me, I don't let anyone make up my mind for that, but myself.  [This message was edited Sun Aug 18 18:25:16 PDT 2002 by Starmist7] | |
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JoeKelley said: Don't believe the hype. Radio is not dead. Far from it. There is so much creative and exciting programs on the air. You just have to get off your thang and do the work to find it.
Joe Kelley "The Upper Room with Joe Kelley" www.live365.com/stations/funk7 That would be internet radio. But aren't you internet radio folks in trouble of being pushed out by record companies? http://www.saveinternetradio.org for details... The internet is the last place where you can find non-corporate music...but it's in danger of being shut down by the big labels. ANyway, I say do like me, just find and buy all the albums you've always wanted...either new, on sale or AT A USED RECORD/CD STORE and mp3 them, then buy yourself one of those big gigabyte mp3 portable players (won't name the makers) and use it instead of a radio in your car! You're the DJ! You're in control. Then of course listen to Joe Kelly stations and your local public radio stations where things are a little more real and cool. Not commercial "kewl"! By the way, I was bored one night and skipped over to the latin stations to check out whatever they had on. I saw a video from Shakira, the latin Britney, and I was disgusted to see that this whole video show was named "Caliente con Pepsi" or something. Basically this is the first time I'v e seen a big corporation blatantly put their product within the actual name. When this start happening? Sports was the first to do this...well it just striked me as an example of how greed, advertising dollars, corpoprate sponsers ruin art these days. | |
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SkletonKee said: Wolf said: Man, I notice you always trying to get people to think Prince's current work is inferior to everything else being made. Why don't you let her make up her own mind instead of calling her decision to listen to him a 'turd'. That's just lame and immature. you expect me (or anyone else) to take serious ones viewpoint when all the study is *one* subject? thats like asking a chef what they feel the best cuisine out there is when all they know how to cook is broiled chicken... and i didnt call her decision a turd...i think your biases against my posts are making you read things that arent existent...my *turd* comment was a joke...and within my post i confirmed that you have the right to believe what you want... but sure, im the lame and immature one...and how quick were you to make this discussion a personal one against me? and then call names?? ... mmm-kay!!! She was making a comparison to commercial music on the radio. If she decides to listen to one person at the expense of what's on the radio that's her right and nobody has any valid basis to criticise her for it. My only bias against your post was that. I didn't call you names, but your response to her by bringing up the 'turd' comment in relation to what she listens to IS lame and immature. If that's name calling you're being extremely sensitive again. | |
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