vainandy said: The only thing that separates Prince from older groups like Midnight Star, Con-Funk-Shun, The Barkays, Cameo, Lakeside, The Dazz Band, etc., is that he has an extremely large and diverse fanbase that has continuously stuck with him over the years.
As far as making a huge splash in the current music scene, he might do it every now and then but his huge fanbase is what keeps him constantly making money as opposed to having to playing various old school music festivals and casinos like the rest of the older groups. As far as making a huge splash and staying in the mainstream constantly, I don't want him to because today's mainstream is a bunch of bullshit. He needs to just keep making music to please his fan base and tell the mainstream to go to hell. . . [Edited 9/6/06 13:51pm] Perhaps, but I don't think that matters anymore. I don't represent those who stuck by him because I took a break from Prince from 1991 or 1992, I can't remember, up until 2005. Do you I wish for the glory days of the 80s for Prince yes, but like vainandy said, seeing the type of music in the mainstream now-a-days (which is terrible), I am quite content with the catalog of music Prince has done. I don't like all his music, but each time I add a CD to my collection, read reviews and hear news songs, I've been discovering really great songs and continue to be amazed on how Prince has evolved as a musician. and the different genres he covers. If he is just an aging oneuponatime Popstar, at least he was during one of the greatest era in music and still packs it in today. not bad for an aging popstar, IMO | |
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vainandy said: The only thing that separates Prince from older groups like Midnight Star, Con-Funk-Shun, The Barkays, Cameo, Lakeside, The Dazz Band, etc., is that he has an extremely large and diverse fanbase that has continuously stuck with him over the years.
As far as making a huge splash in the current music scene, he might do it every now and then but his huge fanbase is what keeps him constantly making money as opposed to having to playing various old school music festivals and casinos like the rest of the older groups. As far as making a huge splash and staying in the mainstream constantly, I don't want him to because today's mainstream is a bunch of bullshit. He needs to just keep making music to please his fan base and tell the mainstream to go to hell. . Cameo? You're comparing P to CAMEO? DAZZ BAND??? WTF? one hit wonders ....I appreciate your obscure taste and all... But comparing P to any of those seems ODD, There's alot that separates Prince from the groups you mentioned. Multiple gold, plat, albumes, successful 30 yr career, movies (strange as they might be, they have a life of their own on this web site) etc, etc, personal studio.... I agree about the fan base. [Edited 9/6/06 13:51pm] | |
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MickG said: If not, what is he?
Prince is spirit that is housed in another temple at the time... one that can not be bulldosed to the ground. he is still around... but if your looking for him in the old house.. you won't find him.. he has relocated. Special Thanks 2 Paisley Park and The DownLoad Society | |
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MickG...I have a bone to pick with you.....if Prince is aging, then what's that make ME? He's 3 yrs younger. I'm not feeling "Ageing" nor aging. Paul Mccarthy Dylan,,,,,they look "aging"...Prince..still hot looking and hot sounding. With regards to Dylan, he's been looking old for umpteen yrs and he still puts out excellant music. "Onceuponatime" popstar? I just don't think the guy's past tense. HE'S ONLY 48 for heavensakes.
I remember seeing Tom Jones in Ephesus,Turkey 20 yrs ago. He and his band were hormone inducing.. He had to be at least 60 at the time. I'd have thrown my thong on the stage. But, it was Turkey. And he still had the moves.(was never into TJ but he was performing at a historical site where I was traveling, never knew what a great performer he was until then) The GOOD news is, you can be over 45 and still be viable. [Edited 9/6/06 21:28pm] [Edited 9/6/06 21:33pm] | |
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xplnyrslf said: MickG...I have a bone to pick with you.....if Prince is aging, then what's that make ME?
xplnyrslf, that was fucking amazing! for with your question you brushed against the true meaning of this Thread. YAY! If Prince is a Ageing onceuponatime PopStar, what does that may you all? Seriously, that's what I was talking about Good Job! News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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Hell No-he's beautiful. | |
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MickG said: xplnyrslf said: MickG...I have a bone to pick with you.....if Prince is aging, then what's that make ME?
xplnyrslf, that was fucking amazing! for with your question you brushed against the true meaning of this Thread. YAY! If Prince is a Ageing onceuponatime PopStar, what does that may you all? Seriously, that's what I was talking about bullshit " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: bullshit
This whole thread if followed in sequence was a direct result of a momentary shutter of self doubt. If I am not, then what am I, and what therefore is Prince? I'm a tricky one. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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MickG said: sacredwarrior said: bullshit
This whole thread if followed in sequence was a direct result of a momentary shutter of self doubt. If I am not, then what am I, right. which makes the second statement bullshit xplnyrslf, that was fucking amazing! for with your question you brushed against the true meaning of this Thread. YAY!
If Prince is a Ageing onceuponatime PopStar, what does that may you all? it was and is about you. now we've got that clear, this thread is a whole lot more interesting. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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prince teaches.. with him, i think, things become beautiful. he's timeless in a way since he's preserved and distributed, sound-wise as well as image. besides when he is religous or political he's respected for making things interesting and beautiful. let's face it, he's hot.. he makes the scary (music) sweet and the fact that he can do just about anything with music is cool. and he has the ability to connect with individuals. You f*cked it up | |
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sacredwarrior said: now we've got that clear, this thread is a whole lot more interesting.
Unfortunally I and many others, including prince have many many simular misunderstandings. A great example, Prince, holds so many misunderstandings with my statements past, that it would take about 3 months to clear the air if he were willing and able. So I trot along. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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MickG said: sacredwarrior said: now we've got that clear, this thread is a whole lot more interesting.
Unfortunally I and many others, including prince have many many simular misunderstandings. A great example, Prince, holds so many misunderstandings with my statements past, that it would take about 3 months to clear the air if he were willing and able. So I trot along. bullshit is bullshit no matter who it is u refer to as a way of deflecting the attention off urself. u dont need to keep deflecting. nothing bad is gunna happen if u stop dodging. be HONEST and u'll find ur clarity. quoting you: " If I am not, ( an ageing onceuponatime pop.star. ) then what am I, " this we all are, and if u already knew that then what is the point of this thread if we have just learned that its really just about you asking urself a question to which u already have the answer? all ur really doing is picking up passengers on a one-way train that never goes anywhere but round in circles just so u can drive. i dont wanna witness or b a passenger to you being that confused about yourself cuz i already know ur capable of getting to a destination. self-importance wont get u there. if u've learned anything about "Prince", surely it would have 2 b that. x bbl " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: bbl :ohnotthisagain: News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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xplnyrslf said: MickG...I have a bone to pick with you.....if Prince is aging, then what's that make ME? He's 3 yrs younger. I'm not feeling "Ageing" nor aging. Paul Mccarthy Dylan,,,,,they look "aging"...Prince..still hot looking and hot sounding. With regards to Dylan, he's been looking old for umpteen yrs and he still puts out excellant music. "Onceuponatime" popstar? I just don't think the guy's past tense. HE'S ONLY 48 for heavensakes.
I remember seeing Tom Jones in Ephesus,Turkey 20 yrs ago. He and his band were hormone inducing.. He had to be at least 60 at the time. I'd have thrown my thong on the stage. But, it was Turkey. And he still had the moves.(was never into TJ but he was performing at a historical site where I was traveling, never knew what a great performer he was until then) The GOOD news is, you can be over 45 and still be viable. [Edited 9/6/06 21:28pm] [Edited 9/6/06 21:33pm] xplnyrslf, I wouldn't take it so personal.... my 2 and a half year old son is "ageing" aren't we all "ageing" from the moment we are born? It seems like everyone is associating "ageing" with Old, ugly , not worthy, not viable, and all kinds of other negative notations.... when to me "ageing just is a fact of life...it just is, it doesn't have to mean any of those negative things. that's why I though Mick's question was kinda silly... cause yes, prince is a pop star and yes he's ageing....but that's NOT ALL HE IS. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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xplnyrslf said:
Cameo? You're comparing P to CAMEO? DAZZ BAND??? WTF? one hit wonders ....I appreciate your obscure taste and all... But comparing P to any of those seems ODD, There's alot that separates Prince from the groups you mentioned. Multiple gold, plat, albumes, successful 30 yr career, movies (strange as they might be, they have a life of their own on this web site) etc, etc, personal studio.... One hit wonders? Obscure taste? Where the hell have you been? Those groups had many hits. They may have not been pop hits but they had many R&B hits. You seem to forget that Prince was known only in the R&B world for years before he had a pop hit with "Little Red Corvette", so yes, he is comparable to these groups. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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setyrmindphree said: sgmusic said: Prince is still a bonfide "Popstar" but I think it's time to do away with the makeup. Or that Geico commerical with Little Richard (mashed potatoes graavy cramberry sauce Wooo Hoooo) is him in another few years...damn not Prince.
Help me..somebody Help me! I was watching TV with a friend after American Idol. We just saw P perform and my friend asked "Why all the thick make-up?" (she has no interest in P, she actually said "Oh, he's still around" ) . Then low and behold, Lil Richard and Geico come on a little later and my friend screams out "That'll be Prince in a few years!". I did not have an answer as to "Why so much make-up?". I responded to her second comment with Prince is too cool not to age gracefully. Let the hair go grey and go natural. Maybe not...but 48 is really not that old. I think he's got alot more to give. As long as there are crazy fans like the ones on this site I don't think he'll be going anywhere anytime soon. [Edited 9/7/06 6:59am] "If you wanted to buy a Sam Cooke album, where would you go?" | |
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toejam said: Maybe...
Is MickG just another obsessedtryhardspiritualknowitall orger? Tell U what, these *mumble mumble* should come with a warnin label.. | |
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vainandy said: The only thing that separates Prince from older groups like Midnight Star, Con-Funk-Shun, The Barkays, Cameo, Lakeside, The Dazz Band, etc., is that he has an extremely large and diverse fanbase that has continuously stuck with him over the years.
As far as making a huge splash in the current music scene, he might do it every now and then but his huge fanbase is what keeps him constantly making money as opposed to having to playing various old school music festivals and casinos like the rest of the older groups. As far as making a huge splash and staying in the mainstream constantly, I don't want him to because today's mainstream is a bunch of bullshit. He needs to just keep making music to please his fan base and tell the mainstream to go to hell. . . [Edited 9/6/06 13:51pm] You're right...he does have a large and diverse fanbase but there is alot more that separates an act like Prince from other great funk bands/acts. Artists like Prince offer more than just music. They offer charisma, fantasy and theatrics that a lot of bands never bother to develop. In the band category, only Earth Wind and Fire come to mind with regard to their creativity, intriguing lyrics and elaborate stage show. They have been able to hold on to quite a loyal following in their later years. Don't think that it's just the music that has carried Prince all these years. His quirky personality. His inventive mixture of musical styles. The combination of ambiguous sexual identity and loose sex (not so much anymore)and talk of God, hidden recorded messages etc. Oh ... and the fact that he's good looking doesn't hurt him either. [Edited 9/7/06 7:24am] "If you wanted to buy a Sam Cooke album, where would you go?" | |
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sacredwarrior said: sacredwarrior said: this
how can people scroll past this image and say nothing. did it stun u into silence? once upon a time a star is born with a heart of love in music. only the eternal presence exists. his aging shell is a reflection of believing and being in the world of men his youth lives on in the heavenly realm preserve and promote the truth in cyber-sound princedirect.net Nice picture...did you draw it yourself? "If you wanted to buy a Sam Cooke album, where would you go?" | |
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Shorty said: xplnyrslf, I wouldn't take it so personal.... my 2 and a half year old son is "ageing" aren't we all "ageing" from the moment we are born? It seems like everyone is associating "ageing" with Old, ugly , not worthy, not viable, and all kinds of other negative notations.... when to me "ageing just is a fact of life...it just is, it doesn't have to mean any of those negative things. that's why I though Mick's question was kinda silly... cause yes, prince is a pop star and yes he's ageing....but that's NOT ALL HE IS. christos7 said: toejam said: Maybe...
Is MickG just another obsessedtryhardspiritualknowitall orger? Tell U what, these *mumble mumble* should come with a warnin label.. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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sgmusic said: vainandy said: The only thing that separates Prince from older groups like Midnight Star, Con-Funk-Shun, The Barkays, Cameo, Lakeside, The Dazz Band, etc., is that he has an extremely large and diverse fanbase that has continuously stuck with him over the years.
As far as making a huge splash in the current music scene, he might do it every now and then but his huge fanbase is what keeps him constantly making money as opposed to having to playing various old school music festivals and casinos like the rest of the older groups. As far as making a huge splash and staying in the mainstream constantly, I don't want him to because today's mainstream is a bunch of bullshit. He needs to just keep making music to please his fan base and tell the mainstream to go to hell. . . [Edited 9/6/06 13:51pm] You're right...he does have a large and diverse fanbase but there is alot more that separates an act like Prince from other great funk bands/acts. Artists like Prince offer more than just music. They offer charisma, fantasy and theatrics that a lot of bands never bother to develop. In the band category, only Earth Wind and Fire come to mind with regard to their creativity, intriguing lyrics and elaborate stage show. They have been able to hold on to quite a loyal following in their later years. Don't think that it's just the music that has carried Prince all these years. His quirky personality. His inventive mixture of musical styles. The combination of ambiguous sexual identity and loose sex (not so much anymore)and talk of God, hidden recorded messages etc. Oh ... and the fact that he's good looking doesn't hurt him either. [Edited 9/7/06 7:24am] I think that's what keeps us fans around but the new generation, especially the new R&B generation, doesn't care about those things. He keeps us fans happy, well...at least satisfied, and we stick around for the next album. He doesn't pick up too many newcomers except the few that explore outside of today's R&B and really love real music. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Shorty said:[quote] xplnyrslf said: MickG...I have a bone to pick with you.....if Prince is aging, then what's that make ME? He's 3 yrs younger. I'm not feeling "Ageing" nor aging. Paul Mccarthy Dylan,,,,,they look "aging"...Prince..still hot looking and hot sounding. With regards to Dylan, he's been looking old for umpteen yrs and he still puts out excellant music. "Onceuponatime" popstar? I just don't think the guy's past tense. HE'S ONLY 48 for heavensakes.
I remember seeing Tom Jones in Ephesus,Turkey 20 yrs ago. He and his band were hormone inducing.. He had to be at least 60 at the time. I'd have thrown my thong on the stage. But, it was Turkey. And he still had the moves.(was never into TJ but he was performing at a historical site where I was traveling, never knew what a great performer he was until then) The GOOD news is, you can be over 45 and still be viable. [Edited 9/6/06 21:28pm] [b][Edited 9/6/06 xplnyrslf, I wouldn't take it so personal.... my 2 and a half year old son is "ageing" aren't we all "ageing" from the moment we are born? It seems like everyone is associating "ageing" with Old, ugly , not worthy, not viable, and all kinds of other negative notations.... when to me "ageing just is a fact of life...it just is, it doesn't have to mean any of those negative things. that's why I though Mick's question was kinda silly... cause yes, prince is a pop star and yes he's ageing....but that's NOT ALL HE IS. I've never heard of an aging 2 1/2 yr old. (I have professional experience on this.) | |
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Graycap23 said: Prince is an idea.....of what music and a musician SHOULD be. He just happens 2 be in the form of a man.
Pay attention.....re-read this if U need 2. Butt could it B he has swallowed the illusion of the image he created N this world & somehow 4gotten the fullness of the image his Creator imprinted on his Soul from the everlasting 2 express? wonder.... B | |
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theoriginalQueenB said: Graycap23 said: Prince is an idea.....of what music and a musician SHOULD be. He just happens 2 be in the form of a man.
Pay attention.....re-read this if U need 2. Butt could it B he has swallowed the illusion of the image he created N this world & somehow 4gotten the fullness of the image his Creator imprinted on his Soul from the everlasting 2 express? wonder.... B reflection: real music... * increases the self-awareness of the listener. inspires invokes ascends. bends linear thinking n2 cubical spiral twinkling. has no price tag. suffers no jet lag. doth not behave itself unseemly. is absolutely spiritually humble. invites delights sets its sights on the truth in u. gets your attention with the everlasting intention of meta-morph-ing u n2 an unconditional lover. is a frog. is a prince-ss. doesnt want or need u 2 judge it. harsh tones serve u in their purpose. real music is the source of all births all worths while smiles trials and tribulations of the earth god generations present the flip-side upside down-side open-wide free-ride no mortal restrictions. is distinct magnetix harmonizing the source of revitalizing sonix thru and thru as new signature signals suited 2 every occasion solution new constitution of the logos cosmos heiros gamos...can u really comprehend its true power... real musicians... * are grateful 2 the source of the flight-path course. reverent 2 the creator of all creations. seek not fame nor fortune. do not behave themselves unseemly. offer the music freely. embrace the brother-sisterhood warmly openly adoringly honestly drop the charade the parade. its all about the truth resonating divinating transmitting receiving believing hearing what eye'm seeing. xpressing it 4 all the world as a free agent of facts. radio signal retriever. true make-believer. dreamer. realtor of realtones specifically suited 2 your every need. universal doctors of song melody harmony heavenly earthly galactic romantic shining the light fantastic from inside u. bang boom sshh slip dip slide glide. gimme a beat. 2gether we can defeat all the worlds illusionz. 12.3 " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: theoriginalQueenB said: Butt could it B he has swallowed the illusion of the image he created N this world & somehow 4gotten the fullness of the image his Creator imprinted on his Soul from the everlasting 2 express? wonder.... B reflection: real music... * increases the self-awareness of the listener. inspires invokes ascends. bends linear thinking n2 cubical spiral twinkling. has no price tag. suffers no jet lag. doth not behave itself unseemly. is absolutely spiritually humble. invites delights sets its sights on the truth in u. gets your attention with the everlasting intention of meta-morph-ing u n2 an unconditional lover. is a frog. is a prince-ss. doesnt want or need u 2 judge it. harsh tones serve u in their purpose. real music is the source of all births all worths while smiles trials and tribulations of the earth god generations present the flip-side upside down-side open-wide free-ride no mortal restrictions. is distinct magnetix harmonizing the source of revitalizing sonix thru and thru as new signature signals suited 2 every occasion solution new constitution of the logos cosmos heiros gamos...can u really comprehend its true power... real musicians... * are grateful 2 the source of the flight-path course. reverent 2 the creator of all creations. seek not fame nor fortune. do not behave themselves unseemly. offer the music freely. embrace the brother-sisterhood warmly openly adoringly honestly drop the charade the parade. its all about the truth resonating divinating transmitting receiving believing hearing what eye'm seeing. xpressing it 4 all the world as a free agent of facts. radio signal retriever. true make-believer. dreamer. realtor of realtones specifically suited 2 your every need. universal doctors of song melody harmony heavenly earthly galactic romantic shining the light fantastic from inside u. bang boom sshh slip dip slide glide. gimme a beat. 2gether we can defeat all the worlds illusionz. 12.3 What ever the hell all that means.....I like it. | |
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xplnyrslf said:[quote] Shorty said: xplnyrslf said: MickG...I have a bone to pick with you.....if Prince is aging, then what's that make ME? He's 3 yrs younger. I'm not feeling "Ageing" nor aging. Paul Mccarthy Dylan,,,,,they look "aging"...Prince..still hot looking and hot sounding. With regards to Dylan, he's been looking old for umpteen yrs and he still puts out excellant music. "Onceuponatime" popstar? I just don't think the guy's past tense. HE'S ONLY 48 for heavensakes.
I remember seeing Tom Jones in Ephesus,Turkey 20 yrs ago. He and his band were hormone inducing.. He had to be at least 60 at the time. I'd have thrown my thong on the stage. But, it was Turkey. And he still had the moves.(was never into TJ but he was performing at a historical site where I was traveling, never knew what a great performer he was until then) The GOOD news is, you can be over 45 and still be viable. [Edited 9/6/06 21:28pm] [b][Edited 9/6/06 xplnyrslf, I wouldn't take it so personal.... my 2 and a half year old son is "ageing" aren't we all "ageing" from the moment we are born? It seems like everyone is associating "ageing" with Old, ugly , not worthy, not viable, and all kinds of other negative notations.... when to me "ageing just is a fact of life...it just is, it doesn't have to mean any of those negative things. that's why I though Mick's question was kinda silly... cause yes, prince is a pop star and yes he's ageing....but that's NOT ALL HE IS. I've never heard of an aging 2 1/2 yr old. (I have professional experience on this.) You've got to be kidding me? my son was born...then he turned 1, then 2 he's now almost 3...that IS the process of aging...he is getting older by the day as we all are. correct? againg is always associated with OLD or elderly when that is not the case at all. ageing - the organic process of growing older and showing the effects of increasing age. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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vainandy said: The only thing that separates Prince from older groups like Midnight Star, Con-Funk-Shun, The Barkays, Cameo, Lakeside, The Dazz Band, etc., is that he has an extremely large and diverse fanbase that has continuously stuck with him over the years.
Agreed, Another thing that separares Prince from the rest of these groups is that he does all different kinds of music, Where the other groups are mainly funk and r&b. If P comes out with a song like "London Bridge" or Sexyback" Then it's time for him to quit.As far as making a huge splash in the current music scene, he might do it every now and then but his huge fanbase is what keeps him constantly making money as opposed to having to playing various old school music festivals and casinos like the rest of the older groups. As far as making a huge splash and staying in the mainstream constantly, I don't want him to because today's mainstream is a bunch of bullshit. He needs to just keep making music to please his fan base and tell the mainstream to go to hell. . . [Edited 9/6/06 13:51pm] | |
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vainandy said: I think that's what keeps us fans around but the new generation, especially the new R&B generation, doesn't care about those things. He keeps us fans happy, well...at least satisfied, and we stick around for the next album. He doesn't pick up too many newcomers except the few that explore outside of today's R&B and really love real music. True...He has a large enough fan base that he doesn't really need any new converts. Anytime you can pull in 80 mil+ touring like he did with Musicology he probably shouldn't be losing sleep over not appealing to the Usher, Beyonce, etc generation. "If you wanted to buy a Sam Cooke album, where would you go?" | |
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theoriginalQueenB said: Butt could it B he has swallowed the illusion of the image he created N this world & somehow 4gotten the fullness of the image his Creator imprinted on his Soul from the everlasting 2 express? wonder.... B The answer to your question is No. He can't forget it. No matter how hard he trys. Though, he's a lovely refection of Gemini. His Logic/Proof side dancing roughly with his Spiritual Heavenly Nature (requiring faith). News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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vainandy said: xplnyrslf said:
Cameo? You're comparing P to CAMEO? DAZZ BAND??? WTF? one hit wonders ....I appreciate your obscure taste and all... But comparing P to any of those seems ODD, There's alot that separates Prince from the groups you mentioned. Multiple gold, plat, albumes, successful 30 yr career, movies (strange as they might be, they have a life of their own on this web site) etc, etc, personal studio.... One hit wonders? Obscure taste? Where the hell have you been? Those groups had many hits. They may have not been pop hits but they had many R&B hits. You seem to forget that Prince was known only in the R&B world for years before he had a pop hit with "Little Red Corvette", so yes, he is comparable to these groups. Learn something new everyday. | |
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