PurpleCharm said: SoulAlive said: I don't think that the great artists of the 60s,70s and 80s will ever be "replaced".Let's be honest,will there truly ever be another Aretha? Another Stevie Wonder? Or even another Michael Jackson and Madonna? Hell no! Andre is very good and he's arguably the most refreshing thing in hip-hop right now,but he will never replace Prince,or any other musical great,for that matter.
Exactly! The industry is no longer set up to create music legends/icon. I would be willing to go along with: Andre is a musical genius by today's standards or Andre is equivalent to Prince in the rap world but I will not buy that Andre is replacing Prince. Exactly! | |
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COMPUTERBLUE1984 said: Interesting.
I like some of OutKasts work (mainly Stankonia) and Andre's Prince-like vibe is cool. Andre 3000 is just one of many artists that represent a portion of P's overall being. D'Angelo, Lenny K, Maxwell, TTD and others have all been labeled as being the next P, but the key will be their longevity in the game and their ability to stay relevant by pushing the envelope Yes | |
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skywalker said: Compare Andre 3000's career at his age, 31, to where Prince was at 31. There is no comparison.
By age 31, Prince had covered so much more ground musically, had much more sales/chart success, and a much larger impact on the world than Andre has had so far. Not to mention that most, probably even Andre himself, regard Prince as being one of the most creative/unique musicians ever to hit the scene and that Andre still kind of seen as being creative- for a rapper. Even if Idlewild has the kind of one in a lifetime universal success that Purple Rain had,which it won't, Andre is still older than Prince was and is not running the show by himself. Again, Andre is creative only by hip hop standards--which nowadays ain't saying much. Bottom Line: Andre 3000 will never "replace" Prince. Just like Prince doesn't "replace" James, Stevie, Jimi etc. That being said, If Andre were to be as big/famous/highly regarded as Prince--he would have/should have done it by now. Shit, Prince had Andre 3000 outpaced as early as "dirty Mind". [Edited 8/26/06 0:16am] He will never replace Prince but everyone has there time and era. Don't write Prince off he is a great artist. All greats get a second wind here and there. I don't totally discount any greats no matter the age etc. Even James Brown came back with Living In America. | |
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i always said it, andre whatever is just a prince wannabe period! | |
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i always said it, andre whatever is just a prince wannabe period! | |
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So he must work with Wendy & lisa. | |
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SS4GOKU said: GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
THIS EVENING I SAW THE NEW MOTION PICTURE " IDLEWILD " STARRING "ANDRE 3000" ONE HALF OF THE AWARD WINNING GROUP "OUTKAST".NOW LET ME START BY SAYING THAT PRINCE IS THE MAN AND HE WILL ALWAYS BE THE MAN FOR YEARS TO COME, EVEN IF HE NEVER SINGS OR PLAYS ANOTHER NOTE. TO MANY PEOPLE INCLUDING MYSELF HE'S BIGGER THAN " ELVIS A.K.A. THE KING", BUT FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT HE'S NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER, DON'T FORGET HE'S KNOCKING ON 50'S DOOR AND HIS MUSIC WILL PROBALLY NEVER BE LIKE IT ONCE WAS. BUT QUOTING HIM HE DID SAY REPRODUCTION OF THE NEW BREED LEADER STAND UP ORGANIZE, AND BY SAYING THAT I FEEL THAT ANDRE 3000 COULD BE THAT NEW BREED IN A FEW YEARS, IT'S TRUE HE CAN'T SING OR PLAY GUITAR LIKE PRINCE, BUT THEY DO HAVE MUSICAL IDEAS, CREATIVITY AND CHARACTERISTICS ALIKE, ESPECIALLY WHEN PRINCE WAS HOT IN THE 1980'S. CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT TO COME. LIKE HOW PRINCE TOOK OVER AFTER JAMES BROWN, SLY STONE, JIMMI HENDRIX AND GEORGE CLINTON, COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT ANDRE 3000 COULD REPLACE THE PURPLE ONE? IN ABOUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW HE'LL BE CLOSE TO 60 YEARS OLD, WHO WANTS TO SEE HIM BE LIKE A OLD SENIOR CITIZEN 'MICK JAGGER" PLAYING SUPER BOWLS OR DOING SHOWS IN LAS VEGAS LIKE WAYNE NEWTON. PRINCE, BUILT A LEGACY THAT SHOULD BE CONTINUED, SOMEONE THAT CAN REPRESENT HIS ART.....PEACE AND BE WILD. | |
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SS4GOKU said: GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
THIS EVENING I SAW THE NEW MOTION PICTURE " IDLEWILD " STARRING "ANDRE 3000" ONE HALF OF THE AWARD WINNING GROUP "OUTKAST".NOW LET ME START BY SAYING THAT PRINCE IS THE MAN AND HE WILL ALWAYS BE THE MAN FOR YEARS TO COME, EVEN IF HE NEVER SINGS OR PLAYS ANOTHER NOTE. TO MANY PEOPLE INCLUDING MYSELF HE'S BIGGER THAN " ELVIS A.K.A. THE KING", BUT FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT HE'S NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER, DON'T FORGET HE'S KNOCKING ON 50'S DOOR AND HIS MUSIC WILL PROBALLY NEVER BE LIKE IT ONCE WAS. BUT QUOTING HIM HE DID SAY REPRODUCTION OF THE NEW BREED LEADER STAND UP ORGANIZE, AND BY SAYING THAT I FEEL THAT ANDRE 3000 COULD BE THAT NEW BREED IN A FEW YEARS, IT'S TRUE HE CAN'T SING OR PLAY GUITAR LIKE PRINCE, BUT THEY DO HAVE MUSICAL IDEAS, CREATIVITY AND CHARACTERISTICS ALIKE, ESPECIALLY WHEN PRINCE WAS HOT IN THE 1980'S. CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT TO COME. LIKE HOW PRINCE TOOK OVER AFTER JAMES BROWN, SLY STONE, JIMMI HENDRIX AND GEORGE CLINTON, COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT ANDRE 3000 COULD REPLACE THE PURPLE ONE? IN ABOUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW HE'LL BE CLOSE TO 60 YEARS OLD, WHO WANTS TO SEE HIM BE LIKE A OLD SENIOR CITIZEN 'MICK JAGGER" PLAYING SUPER BOWLS OR DOING SHOWS IN LAS VEGAS LIKE WAYNE NEWTON. PRINCE, BUILT A LEGACY THAT SHOULD BE CONTINUED, SOMEONE THAT CAN REPRESENT HIS ART.....PEACE AND BE WILD. Just last week I was watching an old Martin episode and OUtkast was on as a special guest. I saw Andre and he was dressed like a hood. Then I thought to myself damn he must of really changed his style to get noticed. I don't think he has the originality that Prince has and I don't think he ever will. Based on dress alone I never realized that he was so plain and simple back in the days. | |
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whoknows said: alwayslate said: I agree. How many albums of "envelope-pushing" music has D put out? He's what 32? He has had 2 albums out. 2. They're good. But they're still just 2. Prince had 10 albums out by the time he was that age and look at the types of music that were in them; several different kinds of music.... and that is just the 'official' releases. Nevermind the bootlegs. D'angelo was grabbing headlines about how he was Prince's successor after 2 albums. That is kinda crazy. Now where is D'Angelo? Lenny K? How old is Lenny K? 40? How much music has he thrown into the mix that actually pushes the envelope? ahhh not since Mama Said has Lenny put out any really new sounding stuff. But that's just me. I didn't like 5. TTD? come on, now. I dunno much about him after "Wishing Well" and "Let Her Down Easy." I also wasn't that much into Outkast until Stankonia. I will say that Andre is definitely different than Lenny, D and TTD. He comes from Hip-Hop and has reinvented himself while still remaining a respected Hip-hop artist (which is a hard to do because Hip-hop fans are theee most closed-minded music fans next to country music fans that you'll find.) So, yeah he has definitely broken some barriers but, give him 10 more years and we'll see. I like him though, for sure. When he's like 35-40 and married to his backup dancer Layte and scrawls 'Evals' on his face and all that, we'll see. Everyone seems to be singing from the same sheet about Andre. TTD is another case altogether though. Not in Prince's league perhaps, but of all the artists you mentioned he is the only one with a single trace of originality and who actually knows how to craft a great song. Check out "Introducing The Hardline" and "Symphony Or Damn". He is a criminally undervalued artist. I wouldn't actually call any of the others "artists". Agree!!TTD was a great artist,maybe the closest thing 2 prince. And I do love Andre's work but the problem with ALL the artists who have been introduced as "the new Prince"is that thye only represent one part of his music. Maxwell and DÁngelo the soulfull ballads and mid-tempo funk songs, André the excentric looks and choice of instruments/production. TTD was more diverse with pop and rock influences. This however doesn't mean I don't like and respect their work, but there is only one Prince!! just like there is only one Madonna,Britney may try 2 be the new one,it doesn't work that way.MJ was singing songs when he was a kid,don't see anyone doing this now. Maybe it's because the record industry has changed,nowadays U can't put an album out every year or get the chance 2 put out 4 albums be4 U get succesful. Album one has 2 sell a few million copies and the second even more.. I mean,do artists these days get the chance 2 grow and create their own style,even if the first albums aren't an instant hit?? Love4oneanother | |
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Andre is more Parliament than Prince | |
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