GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
THIS EVENING I SAW THE NEW MOTION PICTURE " IDLEWILD " STARRING "ANDRE 3000" ONE HALF OF THE AWARD WINNING GROUP "OUTKAST".NOW LET ME START BY SAYING THAT
PRINCE IS THE MAN AND HE WILL ALWAYS BE THE MAN FOR YEARS TO COME, EVEN IF HE
NEVER SINGS OR PLAYS ANOTHER NOTE. TO MANY PEOPLE INCLUDING MYSELF HE'S BIGGER THAN " ELVIS A.K.A. THE KING", BUT FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT HE'S NOT GETTING
ANY YOUNGER, DON'T FORGET HE'S KNOCKING ON 50'S DOOR AND HIS MUSIC WILL PROBALLY
NEVER BE LIKE IT ONCE WAS. BUT QUOTING HIM HE DID SAY REPRODUCTION OF THE NEW BREED LEADER STAND UP ORGANIZE, AND BY SAYING THAT I FEEL THAT ANDRE 3000 COULD BE THAT NEW BREED IN A FEW YEARS, IT'S TRUE HE CAN'T SING OR PLAY GUITAR LIKE PRINCE, BUT THEY DO HAVE MUSICAL IDEAS, CREATIVITY AND CHARACTERISTICS ALIKE, ESPECIALLY WHEN PRINCE WAS HOT IN THE 1980'S. CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT TO COME. LIKE HOW PRINCE TOOK OVER AFTER JAMES BROWN, SLY STONE, JIMMI HENDRIX AND GEORGE CLINTON, COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT ANDRE 3000 COULD REPLACE THE PURPLE ONE? IN ABOUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW HE'LL BE CLOSE TO 60 YEARS OLD, WHO WANTS TO SEE HIM BE LIKE A OLD SENIOR CITIZEN 'MICK JAGGER" PLAYING SUPER BOWLS
OR DOING SHOWS IN LAS VEGAS LIKE WAYNE NEWTON. PRINCE, BUILT A LEGACY THAT SHOULD BE CONTINUED, SOMEONE THAT CAN REPRESENT HIS ART.....PEACE AND BE WILD.

Interesting.

I like some of OutKasts work (mainly Stankonia) and Andre's Prince-like vibe is cool.

Andre 3000 is just one of many artists that represent a portion of P's overall being.

D'Angelo, Lenny K, Maxwell, TTD and others have all been labeled as being the next P, but the key will be their longevity in the game and their ability to stay relevant by pushing the envelope

COMPUTERBLUE1984 said:

why? that hasn't applied to Prince in 10 years.

Compare Andre 3000's career at his age, 31, to where Prince was at 31. There is no comparison.

By age 31, Prince had covered so much more ground musically, had much more sales/chart success, and a much larger impact on the world than Andre has had so far. Not to mention that most, probably even Andre himself, regard Prince as being one of the most creative/unique musicians ever to hit the scene and that Andre still kind of seen as being creative- for a rapper. Even if Idlewild has the kind of one in a lifetime universal success that Purple Rain had,which it won't, Andre is still older than Prince was and is not running the show by himself. Again, Andre is creative only by hip hop standards--which nowadays ain't saying much.

Bottom Line: Andre 3000 will never "replace" Prince. Just like Prince doesn't "replace" James, Stevie, Jimi etc.

That being said, If Andre were to be as big/famous/highly regarded as Prince--he would have/should have done it by now. Shit, Prince had Andre 3000 outpaced as early as "dirty Mind".
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wow, that is the most specious and irrelevent argument I have ever read. great, you have succesfully pointed out that Prince has had a better career than Andre 3000, but that has nothing to do with the idea that maybe Andre 3000 at this point and time can possibly fill the empty slot Prince's has left.

the point is they have similar styles and maybe Andre 3000 can bring that style to the masses, not whether he is as good as Prince or as succesful overall.

but the Purple sheep will lick your balls because you wrote a well written pro-Prince defense, which is all they need to get their dicks hard and block their brain from being able to analyze the argument as irrelevent to the topic.

once again, the only defense Prince fans can muster to keep Prince at the top in their minds is to degrade other artists and place them lower. that's why Prince's music sucks nowadays, because you will simply say all other music not only sucks but is worse, thus Prince is still the best by default.

psychopaths.

1. I'm simply pointing out that Prince has had a bigger impact on the world of music and is now, as he was at Andre's current age, more important to the music world. Again, how is Andre going to "replace Prince"? Did Prince "replace" James Brown? No. As I said, if Andre was going to make a bigger impact on music history than Prince did--he'd have done it by now. As of now he's gone about as far to "replace" Prince as Ready For the World did--he's just a decent imitator.

2. What "empty slot" has Prince left? He is still making music. Whether you like his new output or not is really irrelevant to the conversation. Last time I checked it is still Andre who has to live up to Prince--not the other way around.



No need to get harsh. Refresh my brain--what is the topic? Oh yeah-
ANDRE 3000 REPLACING PRINCE.

I think that the world will not see Andre 3000 the same way the world sees Prince. Does the world hold Lenny Kravitz in the same regard as Jimi? No. Can a a person who misses 1984 Prince dig Andre 3000? Yes. But they can also listen to "Oh Sheila" if that's what they need. Again, Andre 3000 cannot/will not replace Prince creatively, artistically, commercially, or in terms of impact/influence. If Andre was going to--he'd have done it by now. As of now Andre 3000 isn't solidly a household name yet. He's half of a group.



Get over yourself. You are on a fucking Prince fan site.
Should you be suprised that many people here think Prince is the best ever? No. Did I ever dismiss Andre 3000's talent to raise Prince up? No.

I simply stated that Andre has not had near the impact that Prince did at the same stage of his career.

Not once did I talk about the subjective topic of quality of music, you are the one who got all defensive about that. I was talking about impact on the world and legacy. Bottom line: Compare where Prince and Andre were at similar ages. Prince has Andre outpaced by a lot. IMO Prince had Andre outpaced by "Dirty Mind".

So before you get rude,do some homework and explain to me how, other than in your personal preference, "Andre 3000 is replacing Prince".

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there is no doubt that Prince has had a greater musical impact on the world than Andre 3000 ever will.

that isn't the point, so what was your motivation for using that as an argument except to degrade Andre 3000's position in today's musical scene, which is arguably greater tha Prince's.

your sole purpose was to defend Prince when no defense was needed.

there is no doubt that Andre 3000's style is similar to what Prince's used to be.

that is the point. and that today's musical audience is more receptive to Andre 3000 than Prince, thus he can bring that old school Prince vibe to the musical masses, and is thus carrying on the torch of that style of music to a new audience, the same way Prince did with styles that came before him that he melded into his own. whether he is better at it or not is irrelevent.

sure, the topic starter used replaced in the title, but then qualified it in the post to where it meant carried on, not actually replace Prince. so you are using replaced in a different manner that is not relevant. sure, he used the word incorrectly, but he provided a description that defined it to where what he was saying was understandable.

Is Andre 3000 at his most brilliant, his most creative, and his most daring, better, bigger, or more important in music than Prince is/was at HIS most brilliant, creative, and daring?

I say absolutely not. I don't think that's a viewpoint shared only by Prince fans.

If this is so, then Andre 3000 is NOT the one to "carry the torch" or "replace Prince".

He isn't what Prince is/was. He's just another imitator. He's the more talented half of a great rap duo. He is not the 2nd coming. Besides, I think he'd rather be an actor anyway.

Now let's get on to what really matters: Are Justin and Usher replacing Michael Jackson?
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Do you know that probably 98% of the people here have been unable (or not wanted) to read your post because it was posted in all CAPS, which is FUCKING ANNOYING to read?!?!

Only thing I can gather from your headline is that you're an asshat. The day that ANY OF THOSE FUCKING JERKS replace Prince in your head, is the day I'm sorry to hear you had a lobotomy. God, I hate that NPGMC closed.
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*sigh* again, I doubt Dre is attempting to imitate or replace Prince. The influence is there and he does his own thing with it just as Prince did with his influences.

Let's appreciate Andre3000 for who HE is and let's not hang unnecessary baggage around his neck.

*sigh* again, I doubt Dre is attempting to imitate or replace Prince. The influence is there and he does his own thing with it just as Prince did with his influences.

Let's appreciate Andre3000 for who HE is and let's not hang unnecessary baggage around his neck.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
THIS EVENING I SAW THE NEW MOTION PICTURE " IDLEWILD " STARRING "ANDRE 3000" ONE HALF OF THE AWARD WINNING GROUP "OUTKAST".NOW LET ME START BY SAYING THAT
PRINCE IS THE MAN AND HE WILL ALWAYS BE THE MAN FOR YEARS TO COME, EVEN IF HE
NEVER SINGS OR PLAYS ANOTHER NOTE. TO MANY PEOPLE INCLUDING MYSELF HE'S BIGGER THAN " ELVIS A.K.A. THE KING", BUT FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT HE'S NOT GETTING
ANY YOUNGER, DON'T FORGET HE'S KNOCKING ON 50'S DOOR AND HIS MUSIC WILL PROBALLY
NEVER BE LIKE IT ONCE WAS. BUT QUOTING HIM HE DID SAY REPRODUCTION OF THE NEW BREED LEADER STAND UP ORGANIZE, AND BY SAYING THAT I FEEL THAT ANDRE 3000 COULD BE THAT NEW BREED IN A FEW YEARS, IT'S TRUE HE CAN'T SING OR PLAY GUITAR LIKE PRINCE, BUT THEY DO HAVE MUSICAL IDEAS, CREATIVITY AND CHARACTERISTICS ALIKE, ESPECIALLY WHEN PRINCE WAS HOT IN THE 1980'S. CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT TO COME. LIKE HOW PRINCE TOOK OVER AFTER JAMES BROWN, SLY STONE, JIMMI HENDRIX AND GEORGE CLINTON, COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT ANDRE 3000 COULD REPLACE THE PURPLE ONE? IN ABOUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW HE'LL BE CLOSE TO 60 YEARS OLD, WHO WANTS TO SEE HIM BE LIKE A OLD SENIOR CITIZEN 'MICK JAGGER" PLAYING SUPER BOWLS
OR DOING SHOWS IN LAS VEGAS LIKE WAYNE NEWTON. PRINCE, BUILT A LEGACY THAT SHOULD BE CONTINUED, SOMEONE THAT CAN REPRESENT HIS ART.....PEACE AND BE WILD.

absolutely not, Andre 3000 isn't in the ballpark of Prince at the height of his genius.

But if Andre ever was, then he could replace Prince, because he would be better.

instead, he is simply similar, and it is the similarity that is how he is carrying the torch. you don't have to be better than someone to continue what they were doing, simply comperable, and in style they are.

Besides, Big Boi is the better of the two. Bow Tie is the best song on TLB/Speakerbox,

and Speakerbox stands up better as time goes on than TLB, which gets very boring to listen to after numerous cycles...just like modern Prince cds! see, Andre and Prince are far more similar than you think!

*sigh* again, I doubt Dre is attempting to imitate or replace Prince. The influence is there and he does his own thing with it just as Prince did with his influences.

Let's appreciate Andre3000 for who HE is and let's not hang unnecessary baggage around his neck.

When did rappers start being compared to musicians/singers?

Which musician is Eminem replacing?

Serena said:

Chill Out !! As a long time member of NPGMC, I to sometimes hate the useless threads and outrageous opinions I see on the ORG. These things would have never been tolerated at NPG' but neither would your response to this post. How do you know who wrote that opinion? It could have been a 13 year old girl, or even worse: a new P fan who was just looking to share thier thoughts. It is clear to this ORGer that the life lessons that "The Kid" has been sharing with us since '78 have been lost on U. "Put down the needle, Put down the spoon" and cut people some slack.

Whilst I like some of his music, Andre 3000 may be quirky, and a much needed breath of fresh air, but he is not diverse. The Love Below is an example of this. I have the album, and it's not all that it's cracked up to be. Most of the songs sound the same, and there is no spirituality or beauty in his work. The main ballad on the album is Prototype, and that is just a very mediocre song.

He could never make anything that comes close to Adore, for instance. I also find the majority of Andre's work to be childish (not necessarily in a negative way, I find his music upbeat and pleasant) with no real depth. How many barriers has he actually broken, musically? How many proteges has he had? How prolific is he? There is no comparison with P.

And the guy doesn't have the mystical, enigmatic presence that P. has. He's just a guy in golf clothes.

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
IN ABOUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW HE'LL BE CLOSE TO 60 YEARS OLD, WHO WANTS TO SEE HIM BE LIKE A OLD SENIOR CITIZEN 'MICK JAGGER" PLAYING SUPER BOWLS
OR DOING SHOWS IN LAS VEGAS LIKE WAYNE NEWTON.