New topic
Printable| Author | Message |
ANDRE 3000 REPLACING PRINCE. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
THIS EVENING I SAW THE NEW MOTION PICTURE " IDLEWILD " STARRING "ANDRE 3000" ONE HALF OF THE AWARD WINNING GROUP "OUTKAST".NOW LET ME START BY SAYING THAT PRINCE IS THE MAN AND HE WILL ALWAYS BE THE MAN FOR YEARS TO COME, EVEN IF HE NEVER SINGS OR PLAYS ANOTHER NOTE. TO MANY PEOPLE INCLUDING MYSELF HE'S BIGGER THAN " ELVIS A.K.A. THE KING", BUT FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT HE'S NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER, DON'T FORGET HE'S KNOCKING ON 50'S DOOR AND HIS MUSIC WILL PROBALLY NEVER BE LIKE IT ONCE WAS. BUT QUOTING HIM HE DID SAY REPRODUCTION OF THE NEW BREED LEADER STAND UP ORGANIZE, AND BY SAYING THAT I FEEL THAT ANDRE 3000 COULD BE THAT NEW BREED IN A FEW YEARS, IT'S TRUE HE CAN'T SING OR PLAY GUITAR LIKE PRINCE, BUT THEY DO HAVE MUSICAL IDEAS, CREATIVITY AND CHARACTERISTICS ALIKE, ESPECIALLY WHEN PRINCE WAS HOT IN THE 1980'S. CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS GOT TO COME. LIKE HOW PRINCE TOOK OVER AFTER JAMES BROWN, SLY STONE, JIMMI HENDRIX AND GEORGE CLINTON, COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT ANDRE 3000 COULD REPLACE THE PURPLE ONE? IN ABOUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW HE'LL BE CLOSE TO 60 YEARS OLD, WHO WANTS TO SEE HIM BE LIKE A OLD SENIOR CITIZEN 'MICK JAGGER" PLAYING SUPER BOWLS OR DOING SHOWS IN LAS VEGAS LIKE WAYNE NEWTON. PRINCE, BUILT A LEGACY THAT SHOULD BE CONTINUED, SOMEONE THAT CAN REPRESENT HIS ART.....PEACE AND BE WILD. | |
- E-mail - orgNote -  Report post to moderator |
Hahahaaaaa !!! Futuristic Fantasy | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Interesting.
I like some of OutKasts work (mainly Stankonia) and Andre's Prince-like vibe is cool. Andre 3000 is just one of many artists that represent a portion of P's overall being. D'Angelo, Lenny K, Maxwell, TTD and others have all been labeled as being the next P, but the key will be their longevity in the game and their ability to stay relevant by pushing the envelope "Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
|
Replace him in what way, looks, singing, instruments, showmanship rapping what?  |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
|
Compare Andre 3000's career at his age, 31, to where Prince was at 31. There is no comparison.
By age 31, Prince had covered so much more ground musically, had much more sales/chart success, and a much larger impact on the world than Andre has had so far. Not to mention that most, probably even Andre himself, regard Prince as being one of the most creative/unique musicians ever to hit the scene and that Andre still kind of seen as being creative- for a rapper. Even if Idlewild has the kind of one in a lifetime universal success that Purple Rain had,which it won't, Andre is still older than Prince was and is not running the show by himself. Again, Andre is creative only by hip hop standards--which nowadays ain't saying much. Bottom Line: Andre 3000 will never "replace" Prince. Just like Prince doesn't "replace" James, Stevie, Jimi etc. That being said, If Andre were to be as big/famous/highly regarded as Prince--he would have/should have done it by now. Shit, Prince had Andre 3000 outpaced as early as "dirty Mind". [Edited 8/26/06 0:16am] "New Power slide...." |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
yeah....the only comparison i can see is that Andre is a fan.....that's all though | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
 It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
- Lammastide | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Do you know that probably 98% of the people here have been unable (or not wanted) to read your post because it was posted in all CAPS, which is FUCKING ANNOYING to read?!?!
Only thing I can gather from your headline is that you're an asshat. The day that ANY OF THOSE FUCKING JERKS replace Prince in your head, is the day I'm sorry to hear you had a lobotomy. God, I hate that NPGMC closed. 
[Edited 8/26/06 3:30am] [Edited 8/26/06 3:33am] | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I'll try and stay positive.....B.S. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
|
 |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
skywalker said: Compare Andre 3000's career at his age, 31, to where Prince was at 31. There is no comparison.
By age 31, Prince had covered so much more ground musically, had much more sales/chart success, and a much larger impact on the world than Andre has had so far. Not to mention that most, probably even Andre himself, regard Prince as being one of the most creative/unique musicians ever to hit the scene and that Andre still kind of seen as being creative- for a rapper. Even if Idlewild has the kind of one in a lifetime universal success that Purple Rain had,which it won't, Andre is still older than Prince was and is not running the show by himself. Again, Andre is creative only by hip hop standards--which nowadays ain't saying much. Bottom Line: Andre 3000 will never "replace" Prince. Just like Prince doesn't "replace" James, Stevie, Jimi etc. That being said, If Andre were to be as big/famous/highly regarded as Prince--he would have/should have done it by now. Shit, Prince had Andre 3000 outpaced as early as "dirty Mind". [Edited 8/26/06 0:16am] There it is. Their careers when placed next to each other is no comparison, but one can only speculate if Andre 3000 were a solo artist, what type of legacy he may have brought to hip-hop. Too many X-Factors (albums, cultural appeal, innovation)eat away at the argument though, but since this argument is about Andre 3k replacing P, I will submit my final answer: NO "Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Haha, this will never happen. [Edited 8/26/06 6:05am]  Forever changed 
| |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
skywalker said: Compare Andre 3000's career at his age, 31, to where Prince was at 31. There is no comparison.
By age 31, Prince had covered so much more ground musically, had much more sales/chart success, and a much larger impact on the world than Andre has had so far. Not to mention that most, probably even Andre himself, regard Prince as being one of the most creative/unique musicians ever to hit the scene and that Andre still kind of seen as being creative- for a rapper. Even if Idlewild has the kind of one in a lifetime universal success that Purple Rain had,which it won't, Andre is still older than Prince was and is not running the show by himself. Again, Andre is creative only by hip hop standards--which nowadays ain't saying much. Bottom Line: Andre 3000 will never "replace" Prince. Just like Prince doesn't "replace" James, Stevie, Jimi etc. That being said, If Andre were to be as big/famous/highly regarded as Prince--he would have/should have done it by now. Shit, Prince had Andre 3000 outpaced as early as "dirty Mind". [Edited 8/26/06 0:16am] Well said.  | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Whilst I like some of his music, Andre 3000 may be quirky, and a much needed breath of fresh air, but he is not diverse. The Love Below is an example of this. I have the album, and it's not all that it's cracked up to be. Most of the songs sound the same, and there is no spirituality or beauty in his work. The main ballad on the album is Prototype, and that is just a very mediocre song.
He could never make anything that comes close to Adore, for instance. I also find the majority of Andre's work to be childish (not necessarily in a negative way, I find his music upbeat and pleasant) with no real depth. How many barriers has he actually broken, musically? How many proteges has he had? How prolific is he? There is no comparison with P. And the guy doesn't have the mystical, enigmatic presence that P. has. He's just a guy in golf clothes. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
skywalker said: Compare Andre 3000's career at his age, 31, to where Prince was at 31. There is no comparison.
By age 31, Prince had covered so much more ground musically, had much more sales/chart success, and a much larger impact on the world than Andre has had so far. Not to mention that most, probably even Andre himself, regard Prince as being one of the most creative/unique musicians ever to hit the scene and that Andre still kind of seen as being creative- for a rapper. Even if Idlewild has the kind of one in a lifetime universal success that Purple Rain had,which it won't, Andre is still older than Prince was and is not running the show by himself. Again, Andre is creative only by hip hop standards--which nowadays ain't saying much. Bottom Line: Andre 3000 will never "replace" Prince. Just like Prince doesn't "replace" James, Stevie, Jimi etc. That being said, If Andre were to be as big/famous/highly regarded as Prince--he would have/should have done it by now. Shit, Prince had Andre 3000 outpaced as early as "dirty Mind". [Edited 8/26/06 0:16am] Preach the truth!I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
COMPUTERBLUE1984 said: Interesting.
I like some of OutKasts work (mainly Stankonia) and Andre's Prince-like vibe is cool. Andre 3000 is just one of many artists that represent a portion of P's overall being. D'Angelo, Lenny K, Maxwell, TTD and others have all been labeled as being the next P, but the key will be their longevity in the game and their ability to stay relevant by pushing the envelope I agree. How many albums of "envelope-pushing" music has D put out? He's what 32? He has had 2 albums out. 2. They're good. But they're still just 2. Prince had 10 albums out by the time he was that age and look at the types of music that were in them; several different kinds of music.... and that is just the 'official' releases. Nevermind the bootlegs. D'angelo was grabbing headlines about how he was Prince's successor after 2 albums. That is kinda crazy. Now where is D'Angelo? Lenny K? How old is Lenny K? 40? How much music has he thrown into the mix that actually pushes the envelope? ahhh not since Mama Said has Lenny put out any really new sounding stuff. But that's just me. I didn't like 5. TTD? come on, now. I dunno much about him after "Wishing Well" and "Let Her Down Easy." I also wasn't that much into Outkast until Stankonia. I will say that Andre is definitely different than Lenny, D and TTD. He comes from Hip-Hop and has reinvented himself while still remaining a respected Hip-hop artist (which is a hard to do because Hip-hop fans are theee most closed-minded music fans next to country music fans that you'll find.) So, yeah he has definitely broken some barriers but, give him 10 more years and we'll see. I like him though, for sure. When he's like 35-40 and married to his backup dancer Layte and scrawls 'Evals' on his face and all that, we'll see. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Singingboy said: Whilst I like some of his music, Andre 3000 may be quirky, and a much needed breath of fresh air, but he is not diverse. The Love Below is an example of this. I have the album, and it's not all that it's cracked up to be. Most of the songs sound the same, and there is no spirituality or beauty in his work. The main ballad on the album is Prototype, and that is just a very mediocre song.
He could never make anything that comes close to Adore, for instance. I also find the majority of Andre's work to be childish (not necessarily in a negative way, I find his music upbeat and pleasant) with no real depth. How many barriers has he actually broken, musically? How many proteges has he had? How prolific is he? There is no comparison with P. And the guy doesn't have the mystical, enigmatic presence that P. has. He's just a guy in golf clothes. Too true. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
alwayslate said: COMPUTERBLUE1984 said: Interesting.
I like some of OutKasts work (mainly Stankonia) and Andre's Prince-like vibe is cool. Andre 3000 is just one of many artists that represent a portion of P's overall being. D'Angelo, Lenny K, Maxwell, TTD and others have all been labeled as being the next P, but the key will be their longevity in the game and their ability to stay relevant by pushing the envelope I agree. How many albums of "envelope-pushing" music has D put out? He's what 32? He has had 2 albums out. 2. They're good. But they're still just 2. Prince had 10 albums out by the time he was that age and look at the types of music that were in them; several different kinds of music.... and that is just the 'official' releases. Nevermind the bootlegs. D'angelo was grabbing headlines about how he was Prince's successor after 2 albums. That is kinda crazy. Now where is D'Angelo? Lenny K? How old is Lenny K? 40? How much music has he thrown into the mix that actually pushes the envelope? ahhh not since Mama Said has Lenny put out any really new sounding stuff. But that's just me. I didn't like 5. TTD? come on, now. I dunno much about him after "Wishing Well" and "Let Her Down Easy." I also wasn't that much into Outkast until Stankonia. I will say that Andre is definitely different than Lenny, D and TTD. He comes from Hip-Hop and has reinvented himself while still remaining a respected Hip-hop artist (which is a hard to do because Hip-hop fans are theee most closed-minded music fans next to country music fans that you'll find.) So, yeah he has definitely broken some barriers but, give him 10 more years and we'll see. I like him though, for sure. When he's like 35-40 and married to his backup dancer Layte and scrawls 'Evals' on his face and all that, we'll see. Everyone seems to be singing from the same sheet about Andre. TTD is another case altogether though. Not in Prince's league perhaps, but of all the artists you mentioned he is the only one with a single trace of originality and who actually knows how to craft a great song. Check out "Introducing The Hardline" and "Symphony Or Damn". He is a criminally undervalued artist. I wouldn't actually call any of the others "artists". | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
whoknows said: Everyone seems to be singing from the same sheet about Andre. TTD is another case altogether though. Not in Prince's league perhaps, but of all the artists you mentioned he is the only one with a single trace of originality and who actually knows how to craft a great song. Check out "Introducing The Hardline" and "Symphony Or Damn". He is a criminally undervalued artist. I wouldn't actually call any of the others "artists". I bought"symphony or damn" years ago and it was just okay for me on the whole. Some good songs were in the album but I have never wanted to play the album over and over again or anything. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
3000, can neva replace Prince.
And there's no Andre without Big Boi. Outkast is a duo always has been and always will be doesnt matter how many solo projects they do. If you only felt Outkast when Stankonia came out then your not a day one fan and cant really appreciate what they have done. Kast has created their own style and place in the music world and thats about the only thing they have similar to Prince. I wonder how OutKast would have endend up if Cee-lo would have took Big Boi's spot in the group because that was the plan since Big Boi was having doubts about being in the group. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
alwayslate said: whoknows said: Everyone seems to be singing from the same sheet about Andre. TTD is another case altogether though. Not in Prince's league perhaps, but of all the artists you mentioned he is the only one with a single trace of originality and who actually knows how to craft a great song. Check out "Introducing The Hardline" and "Symphony Or Damn". He is a criminally undervalued artist. I wouldn't actually call any of the others "artists". I bought"symphony or damn" years ago and it was just okay for me on the whole. Some good songs were in the album but I have never wanted to play the album over and over again or anything. There are some people who say the same thing about SOTT. Give it another chance. I'd say there are about 8 classic songs on it. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Artistically, Andre has already replaced P. P continues to put out weak music, while Andre just gets weirder, better, like 80's P. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
IMO Dre has no intention of replacing Prince. I like the way he pays homage to Prince while still being himself. That's the right way to do it. I love Andre's personality and his imagination and I respect what he brings to the table.
So how about we let Dre be Dre and Prince be Prince? There's room for both. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
2freaky4church1 said: Artistically, Andre has already replaced P. P continues to put out weak music, while Andre just gets weirder, better, like 80's P.
nice bait. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Not a bait at all, am being serious. The old schooler's know my position on Andre, and it isn't a "New Position" either.
Listen to the weird keyboards on Roses. Prince aint doin stuff like that nowadays, or a chorus that just kicks my ass everytime I hear it. Even Prince mentioned how great he thought Hey Ya was. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
2freaky4church1 said: Not a bait at all, am being serious. The old schooler's know my position on Andre, and it isn't a "New Position" either.
Listen to the weird keyboards on Roses. Prince aint doin stuff like that nowadays, or a chorus that just kicks my ass everytime I hear it. Even Prince mentioned how great he thought Hey Ya was. Well I beg to differ. Hey Ya is a great song and I loved it and now....I find it incredibly irritating. The majority (not all) of Prince's music, transcends generations and lasts forever. Can you say the same about Outkast and all of their CDs? Prince may not be doing it now-a-days, but he still puts on the best live show ever (through which I can't say the same about Outkast) and I don't believe Andre's music now can be compared to Prince in the 80's. Yes it is unique, however Prince in the 80's was a revolution (no pun intended) on all sorts of musical levels and I don't see Outkast having that kind of impact today. The only thing I can say about Outkast is that they are cool and different, but no Prince. [Edited 8/26/06 7:40am] | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
2freaky4church1 said: Not a bait at all, am being serious. The old schooler's know my position on Andre, and it isn't a "New Position" either.
Listen to the weird keyboards on Roses. Prince aint doin stuff like that nowadays, or a chorus that just kicks my ass everytime I hear it. Even Prince mentioned how great he thought Hey Ya was. In terms of injecting some character into the mainstream I'd certainly agree that he's replaced Prince in that sense. For a lot of kids, Andre is their only experience of kickass funk with an eccentric edge. I just wish he averaged a bit more than two great jams every three years. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
whoknows said: 2freaky4church1 said: Not a bait at all, am being serious. The old schooler's know my position on Andre, and it isn't a "New Position" either.
Listen to the weird keyboards on Roses. Prince aint doin stuff like that nowadays, or a chorus that just kicks my ass everytime I hear it. Even Prince mentioned how great he thought Hey Ya was. In terms of injecting some character into the mainstream I'd certainly agree that he's replaced Prince in that sense. For a lot of kids, Andre is their only experience of kickass funk with an eccentric edge. I just wish he averaged a bit more than two great jams every three years. I agree with that. They are a breath of fresh air of what is happening in hip hop and if the youth can be inspired from that, then I definately appreciate Outkast for that purpose. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
whoknows said: alwayslate said: I bought"symphony or damn" years ago and it was just okay for me on the whole. Some good songs were in the album but I have never wanted to play the album over and over again or anything. There are some people who say the same thing about SOTT. Give it another chance. I'd say there are about 8 classic songs on it. Damn, that's true. That's is still how I feel about SOTT as a whole. It ain't Prince's best to me. Imma go dig it up. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
|
whoknows said: alwayslate said: I bought"symphony or damn" years ago and it was just okay for me on the whole. Some good songs were in the album but I have never wanted to play the album over and over again or anything. There are some people who say the same thing about SOTT. Give it another chance. I'd say there are about 8 classic songs on it. Must agree with whoknows. Symphony Or Damn is a towering work imo - the songwriting, the production, his voice. Classics all over it. |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |