I beleave that Prince is one of the greatest artist of all, BUT, I would like to hear his music with out being preached at, like his last album | |
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MickG said: origmnd said: If I understand Mg's Q correctly...
Since 84 he's weaved in and out of the spiritual/ religious realm non-stop. At times its more prevalent within the music , other times its mixed in with his other idealogies of life. But I see it as ALWAYS THERE. Even his sensual side still rears its "ugly" head , though not nearly as often or as graphic. Where he shows a more sensual than sexual side lately. You didn't understand the question, but feel bad not for nor did anyone else. The point of my inquirery was, granted the "spiritual" stuff is always been there, there is a singular point where it transitioned from self established power to the externalized searching for spiritual knowledge. Mick, I'M not getting the question. Can ya give it, in two brief sentences or less? Be more clear what it is you want input on.(I'm dense) Eliminate the adjectives. | |
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xplnyrslf said: Mick, I'M not getting the question. Can ya give it, in two brief sentences or less? Be more clear what it is you want input on.(I'm dense) Eliminate the adjectives.
Everything follows a flow unless there's something to change a direction hard. I'm sudgesting Prince Changed his direction from an inner knowledge spiritual person to and externalized seaker of spirituality seemingly over night. My question is therefore what is the reason for such a drastic change? News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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MickG said: xplnyrslf said: Mick, I'M not getting the question. Can ya give it, in two brief sentences or less? Be more clear what it is you want input on.(I'm dense) Eliminate the adjectives.
Everything follows a flow unless there's something to change a direction hard. I'm sudgesting Prince Changed his direction from an inner knowledge spiritual person to and externalized seaker of spirituality seemingly over night. My question is therefore what is the reason for such a drastic change? Whelp. In view of history, something hit with his 1st wife and their life together and all it entailed. Something no one is going to know. | |
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can someone please remind mick that p's baby died, or we can keep pretendin like we don't understand his question and give poetic answers to ease the long drawn out process of getting to the very obvious point that kinda goes without saying. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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MickG said: This is the question I'd really like to have answered.
There's the time where Prince is putting out songs like 7 and Thunder, and albums like Lovesexy, where Prince takes on an almost demigod type personafacation with the relationship of His God. A shortish transatory period... Then there's the time where Prince is little more then another sheep among a flock you wouldn't want to be found in. Does anyone else see it this way? I've heard some say it was the death of his child, but I've heard lots of theoires. I'd now like to hear what you've got to say about it. i thought you were Prince | |
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Purplerain7772001 said: I like how the responses on this site r so diverse. So members can just answer the question concisely, but yet there the people that answer the question but add in their comments to the author of the forum that sound like Get over it, or Here we go again. Not saying it's wrong to say what's on ur mind but it's quite entertaining really.
because Mick is asking a question based on HIS opinion of what took place. Shouldn't he be able to process his own thoughts about his own opinions? MickG said: What Happened To Prince? (transition)
This is the question I'd really like to have answered. There's the time where Prince is putting out songs like 7 and Thunder, and albums like Lovesexy, where Prince takes on an almost demigod type personafacation with the relationship of His God. Maybe you agree with this opinion but I DON'T! In my opinion the statement doesn't even make much sense. A shortish transatory period...
doesn't transitory mean "shortish" or short lived? He listed 7 and Thunder then lovesexy then says there was this "shortish transatory period" since lovesexy was before thunder and 7, did the "transatory period" come after lovesexy or after thunder or 7? Then there's the time where Prince is little more then another sheep among a flock you wouldn't want to be found in.
Does anyone else see it this way? . again, Mick's personal opinion to which I disagree. I've heard some say it was the death of his child, but I've heard lots of theoires.
can you not agree that if any transition took place in his life, this event probaby had the most effect on him? Please, tell us what YOU think it was Mick. I'm just dying to know! I'd now like to hear what you've got to say about it.
this is just my opinion but I don't think you really want to hear what anyone has to say about it, unless it agrees with the answer you already have in your head. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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purplerein said: MickG said: This is the question I'd really like to have answered.
There's the time where Prince is putting out songs like 7 and Thunder, and albums like Lovesexy, where Prince takes on an almost demigod type personafacation with the relationship of His God. A shortish transatory period... Then there's the time where Prince is little more then another sheep among a flock you wouldn't want to be found in. Does anyone else see it this way? I've heard some say it was the death of his child, but I've heard lots of theoires. I'd now like to hear what you've got to say about it. i thought you were Prince I get that alot. Prince should take it as a major complement. However I'm a short fat white dude in Phoenix Arizona. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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Shorty said: Hope your day gets better, because it's easy to see you're having a bad one. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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MickG said: Shorty said: Hope your day gets better, because it's easy to see you're having a bad one. My day is great Mick...see it's a FACT that you don't know everything. (far from it really) that's fine mick it seems when ever I try to make sense of some of your non-sense you just ignore it or it. Speaks volumes. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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Shorty said: MickG said: Hope your day gets better, because it's easy to see you're having a bad one. My day is great Mick...see it's a FACT that you don't know everything. (far from it really) that's fine mick it seems when ever I try to make sense of some of your non-sense you just ignore it or it. Speaks volumes. Shorty, I like you, you've got spunk. However I don't respond to your responding because some times when I try to make sense of your trying to make sense, well it doesn't make sense, and thus I need to disregard it as another attempt to bait. Maybe you're right. Maybe I wasn't very clear. Maybe it is me. Spunk on Spunky Bruster. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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MickG said: Shorty said: My day is great Mick...see it's a FACT that you don't know everything. (far from it really) that's fine mick it seems when ever I try to make sense of some of your non-sense you just ignore it or it. Speaks volumes. Shorty, I like you, you've got spunk. However I don't respond to your responding because some times when I try to make sense of your trying to make sense, well it doesn't make sense, and thus I need to disregard it as another attempt to bait. Maybe you're right. Maybe I wasn't very clear. Maybe it is me. Spunk on Spunky Bruster. Mick, I can't say I feel the same way for you. You appear to me, to do not much more than bait and bullshit, yet here you claim it's me who's baiting? yeah..ok. With your lame attempts at baiting me into an argument by calling me silly names in an effort to disrespect me, you're really proving your point. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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MickG said: This is the question I'd really like to have answered.
There's the time where Prince is putting out songs like 7 and Thunder, and albums like Lovesexy, where Prince takes on an almost demigod type personafacation with the relationship of His God. A shortish transatory period... Then there's the time where Prince is little more then another sheep among a flock you wouldn't want to be found in. Does anyone else see it this way? I've heard some say it was the death of his child, but I've heard lots of theoires. I'd now like to hear what you've got to say about it. Okay, it would seem I'm not being clear. My Point and Question has to do with Two Polar Opoisets in a Tao or way of being. One way (demmy god prince) happens while he's putting out tunes like 7, thunder and albumes like Lovesexy. THE OTHER WAY (blinded by world spirituality prince) happens at an undefined moment in time. WHEN? WHERE? HOW? WHY? News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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LOL ...man what a mental mind bingo...all this is giving me a [Edited 8/28/06 17:02pm] Because of God..we 2 r 1~~Darren & Suzyn forever
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MickG said: MickG said: This is the question I'd really like to have answered.
There's the time where Prince is putting out songs like 7 and Thunder, and albums like Lovesexy, where Prince takes on an almost demigod type personafacation with the relationship of His God. A shortish transatory period... Then there's the time where Prince is little more then another sheep among a flock you wouldn't want to be found in. Does anyone else see it this way? I've heard some say it was the death of his child, but I've heard lots of theoires. I'd now like to hear what you've got to say about it. Okay, it would seem I'm not being clear. My Point and Question has to do with Two Polar Opoisets in a Tao or way of being. One way (demmy god prince) happens while he's putting out tunes like 7, thunder and albumes like Lovesexy. THE OTHER WAY (blinded by world spirituality prince) happens at an undefined moment in time. WHEN? WHERE? HOW? WHY? DEMI GOD Maybe he went from maintaining his personal relationship internally EXTERNALLY because there's supposed to be a spiritual conection with others, not just with YOUR higher power. | |
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no one here a jehovah's witness? ive always been curious about something to do with them, anyone who is willing to answer a layman's question? | |
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origmnd said: DEMI GOD Maybe he went from maintaining his personal relationship internally EXTERNALLY because there's supposed to be a spiritual conection with others, not just with YOUR higher power. From my perspective, he's down graded on the spiritual conection with others by joining up with that cult. In other words, he use to have a spiritual connection with others, now he just has it with the selfrigoutious fanatics. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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bennygee said: no one here a jehovah's witness? ive always been curious about something to do with them, anyone who is willing to answer a layman's question?
There are many JWs over on the Politics and Religion message board who would be jumping to anwser your questions. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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MickG said: purplerein said: i thought you were Prince I get that alot. Prince should take it as a major complement. However I'm a short fat white dude in Phoenix Arizona. Post a picture. | |
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ElCapitan said: Apparently, like most people, his relationship with God is changing over the course of his life.
I heard that they're just friends now. | |
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He's the same self absorbed man he always was. | |
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HE SPENT TOO LONG GETTIN OFF ON THE SMELL OF HIS OWN FARTS TIL ONE DAY EVERYTHING IMPLODED AND SENT HIM ON A SEARCH FOR FARTS WITH MEANING. lol " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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MickG said: xplnyrslf said: Mick, I'M not getting the question. Can ya give it, in two brief sentences or less? Be more clear what it is you want input on.(I'm dense) Eliminate the adjectives.
Everything follows a flow unless there's something to change a direction hard. I'm sudgesting Prince Changed his direction from an inner knowledge spiritual person to and externalized seaker of spirituality seemingly over night. My question is therefore what is the reason for such a drastic change? Mick stop with the PHILOSPHIC TENDACIES and speak friggin ENGLISH, YOU said Prince knows you and at one point you hinted you were speaking for him!!! Stop the shit!!!! | |
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Diosuni said: MickG said: Everything follows a flow unless there's something to change a direction hard. I'm sudgesting Prince Changed his direction from an inner knowledge spiritual person to and externalized seaker of spirituality seemingly over night. My question is therefore what is the reason for such a drastic change? Mick stop with the PHILOSPHIC TENDACIES and speak friggin ENGLISH, YOU said Prince knows you and at one point you hinted you were speaking for him!!! Stop the shit!!!! I get this alot. Those "Philosphic Tendacies" is truly the way I think and the way I speak, for me to stop them then I would have to fall dead. Prince is full aware of me. I'd never speak for Prince, I hardly know his language, however we are two of several cut from the same table cloth. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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Diosuni said: MickG said: Everything follows a flow unless there's something to change a direction hard. I'm sudgesting Prince Changed his direction from an inner knowledge spiritual person to and externalized seaker of spirituality seemingly over night. My question is therefore what is the reason for such a drastic change? Mick stop with the PHILOSPHIC TENDACIES and speak friggin ENGLISH, YOU said Prince knows you and at one point you hinted you were speaking for him!!! Stop the shit!!!! he doesnt have to change the way he expresses himself. i'd rather read the philosophical aspects of his inner world, than a bunch of externalised physical world stuff. i've learnt how to connect the two to make it easier to understand others, but why should 'inner world/philosophical' people cater to 'external world/physical people' when they are sitting inside the heart of the matter, and everyone else is flitting around the real issues in a predominantly non-real world? in my opinion, the battle between good and evil, is, in part, the battle between the inside and the outside, until we find a middle pillar of understanding. we dont reach that understanding by succumbing to the WEIGHT of externalised thinking, but by going FURTHER WITHIN and bringing that OUTSIDE world with us. i spent 3 years listening to people tell me 'speak fuckin english'. incase u havent noticed, we already do, unless u think u r reading japanese. just becuz u dont understand the inner language, doesnt mean those who speak it should change to accomodate you. try making an effort to understand. its worth it. cuz only the inner world is real, and it is the place from which everything u see around u is created. r u an internal creator or an external puppet? r u a spirit having a human experience, or a body unaware of this fact? Mick might seem like he speaks for Prince from time to time, but if u had ur connection to your INNER PHILOSOPHICAL WORLD nice and steady and strong, im guessing u might not be so offended by it. YES it can feel UNCOMFORTABLE when the INTERNALS shave too close to the bone, but that would b the readers problem, not the speaker. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: Diosuni said: Know Diosuni is alright, he's got more abilities then many. Givem a break and don't break his chops. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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sacredwarrior said: Plus Have I told you I don't know who's more confused about the Inner/Outer workings of "good and evil", you or Prince yet? good and evil is an illusion. ofcourse unless you are speaking of "evil" as unwanted and not as a "force" to be reconed with. There is no good and evil. There's only Truth and Confusion. To use such misguided and lost in translation terms as "good and evil" only leads to confusion and that's unwanted of god. And I'm glad you believe you percieve my "inner spirituality" however I've seen that my inner and outter are linked where you're in or out. Are you in or out? News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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MickG said: sacredwarrior said: Plus Have I told you I don't know who's more confused about the Inner/Outer workings of "good and evil", you or Prince yet? good and evil is an illusion. ofcourse unless you are speaking of "evil" as unwanted and not as a "force" to be reconed with. There is no good and evil. There's only Truth and Confusion. To use such misguided and lost in translation terms as "good and evil" only leads to confusion and that's unwanted of god. And I'm glad you believe you percieve my "inner spirituality" however I've seen that my inner and outter are linked where you're in or out. Are you in or out? my physical body is no longer carbon based. its silicon-light based. so u tell me. here's somethin about the 'evil' im talkin about. "Mankind on the other hand, having such powerful obstacles to overcome in his rise to supremacy has of necessity evolved an ego beyond the proportions of any other natural species. It grips his mentality, twisting his viewpoint almost to the verge of insanity; until there are very few people able to accept information without first turning it over to Ego for scrutiny. See Ego as a powerful black panther, crouched at the entrance to the dim cavern of the physical mind; pouncing on every piece of information tossed its way by the five senses. Watch this beast, salivating at the jowl, ready to tear apart any item which might cause it to lose face, cast light upon its storehouse of secrets, or which would even hint that it is not the all-powerful guardian of the carnal mentality. Observe this panther, poised, ready to spring when its territory is invaded by the suggestion of selfless motivation; yet eager for knowledge which it might use to magnify its own sense of importance; hear it growl its perpetual Good-Friday theme ... "Destroy this thing that I do not understand ...fight it with ridicule first, and if it persists, kill; for I am the supreme commander of this human being, it is a slave to my whim. If spiritual logic is allowed to prevail I will become less... Ego the servant... I will fight to the bitter end to retain my grasp." When the mind first turns to spiritual matters the adroit dexterity with which Ego conducts its campaign for mastery is almost beyond belief. It soothes the individual into complacency, suggesting a hundred reasons why reform should be postponed to a more convenient time, and having won this first little point sweeps on to more forceful argument each time the infantile spirit raises the subject again. It points with pride to all its factual knowledge. It raises diversions to avoid closer examination of spiritual logic. If these tactics are of no avail out come Ego's invincible weapons ...its stored knowledge of the animal likes and dislikes to woo the victim, and the initial victory is assured. It is therefore essential to start the battle with self knowledge ... awareness of the tactics to be employed by the lower self. Firm commitment and constant prayer to the Powerhouse of Spirit is the key to conquest. To imagine for one moment that success will come unaided is to admit defeat, to succumb to Ego's favorite plea. The higher the physical intelligence at Ego's command the more forceful its tactics. A consummate liar, glib, unconscionable, convincing, seductive, indefatigable, Ego, the Master Artist, clothes its vice-like grip in a velvet glove and enslaves the human race. Ego has lead mankind to madness: It will never be satiated. It can devour our civilization if uncontrolled ... the writing is on the wall ... any unbiased mind can interpret the message. What does each person require of life on Earth? Peace, plenty, justice, harmony of living? ... and what do the underprivileged want? exactly these same things. There could be more than enough to go around if luxury for the few was curbed. Without the assurance that life's good things are available for all there can be no justice on Earth, no lasting peace, no genuine Christal mode. The black panther will writhe and snarl horribly when it realizes that this is the way things must be; go into a wild frenzy at the prospect of equal distribution. Self interest will shudder at the thought of sharing what it has with others, and in some, scheme to excuse its reaction by tossing a few extra crumbs from its table in order that it can glow with pride at its feeling of generosity, positively purr with the feeling of self-righteousness. Yet unless the motivation be purely selfless even offering the body to be burned reaps no spiritual benefit. It is wise therefore to tackle the carnal self and clarify its motivations before attempting anything more ambitious, for it is possible to spend a whole lifetime imitating "goodness" without ever being aware of error. The shock of realization at the time of judgement on seeing a lifetime of effort wasted must be grim. Spirit alone is good." i also believe evil = ignorance. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: "Mankind on the other hand, having such powerful obstacles to overcome in his rise to supremacy has of necessity evolved an ego beyond the proportions of any other natural species. It grips his mentality, twisting his viewpoint almost to the verge of insanity; until there are very few people able to accept information without first turning it over to Ego for scrutiny.
See Ego as a powerful black panther, crouched at the entrance to the dim cavern of the physical mind; pouncing on every piece of information tossed its way by the five senses. Watch this beast, salivating at the jowl, ready to tear apart any item which might cause it to lose face, cast light upon its storehouse of secrets, or which would even hint that it is not the all-powerful guardian of the carnal mentality. Observe this panther, poised, ready to spring when its territory is invaded by the suggestion of selfless motivation; yet eager for knowledge which it might use to magnify its own sense of importance; hear it growl its perpetual Good-Friday theme ... "Destroy this thing that I do not understand ...fight it with ridicule first, and if it persists, kill; for I am the supreme commander of this human being, it is a slave to my whim. If spiritual logic is allowed to prevail I will become less... Ego the servant... I will fight to the bitter end to retain my grasp." When the mind first turns to spiritual matters the adroit dexterity with which Ego conducts its campaign for mastery is almost beyond belief. It soothes the individual into complacency, suggesting a hundred reasons why reform should be postponed to a more convenient time, and having won this first little point sweeps on to more forceful argument each time the infantile spirit raises the subject again. It points with pride to all its factual knowledge. It raises diversions to avoid closer examination of spiritual logic. If these tactics are of no avail out come Ego's invincible weapons ...its stored knowledge of the animal likes and dislikes to woo the victim, and the initial victory is assured. It is therefore essential to start the battle with self knowledge ... awareness of the tactics to be employed by the lower self. Firm commitment and constant prayer to the Powerhouse of Spirit is the key to conquest. To imagine for one moment that success will come unaided is to admit defeat, to succumb to Ego's favorite plea. The higher the physical intelligence at Ego's command the more forceful its tactics. A consummate liar, glib, unconscionable, convincing, seductive, indefatigable, Ego, the Master Artist, clothes its vice-like grip in a velvet glove and enslaves the human race. Ego has lead mankind to madness: It will never be satiated. It can devour our civilization if uncontrolled ... the writing is on the wall ... any unbiased mind can interpret the message. What does each person require of life on Earth? Peace, plenty, justice, harmony of living? ... and what do the underprivileged want? exactly these same things. There could be more than enough to go around if luxury for the few was curbed. Without the assurance that life's good things are available for all there can be no justice on Earth, no lasting peace, no genuine Christal mode. The black panther will writhe and snarl horribly when it realizes that this is the way things must be; go into a wild frenzy at the prospect of equal distribution. Self interest will shudder at the thought of sharing what it has with others, and in some, scheme to excuse its reaction by tossing a few extra crumbs from its table in order that it can glow with pride at its feeling of generosity, positively purr with the feeling of self-righteousness. Yet unless the motivation be purely selfless even offering the body to be burned reaps no spiritual benefit. It is wise therefore to tackle the carnal self and clarify its motivations before attempting anything more ambitious, for it is possible to spend a whole lifetime imitating "goodness" without ever being aware of error. The shock of realization at the time of judgement on seeing a lifetime of effort wasted must be grim. Just as I though, drasticly phyically obsessed with spiritual matters, this leading to confusion. I hope Prince is doing better then you, but I doubt it somehow. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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A child, looks at the world, as dark and light regions. That's simple because the darkness is within them through their unknowing. If you understand, or it should be said, only after your mind can achieve a 3D landscaped understanding of the electomegnetic specturm, can that one mind full understand that all things are filled with light. The is quite limited to the range of emp it will see, but that's not evidence to believe light that isn't seen isn't there. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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