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Thread started 08/22/06 6:01pm

MickG

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What Happened To Prince? (transition)

This is the question I'd really like to have answered.

There's the time where Prince is putting out songs like 7 and Thunder, and albums like Lovesexy, where Prince takes on an almost demigod type personafacation with the relationship of His God.

A shortish transatory period...

Then there's the time where Prince is little more then another sheep among a flock you wouldn't want to be found in.

Does anyone else see it this way?

I've heard some say it was the death of his child, but I've heard lots of theoires.

I'd now like to hear what you've got to say about it.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #1 posted 08/22/06 6:05pm

silverandgold

No. Prince is who he is and that's it. His personal life is "his own". No one stays the same unless you are a robot. He's human like everyone else. Just accept him for who he is.
[Edited 8/22/06 18:06pm]
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Reply #2 posted 08/22/06 6:36pm

Anx

he's hanging out with sade and kate bush. nod
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Reply #3 posted 08/23/06 3:47am

sacredwarrior

flowers bloom and die
their scent lives forever
if u smelled them

people talk about what was
like it doesnt exist anymore
its always here

when u grow tired of missing
every beauty is yours
by remembering where the essence lives

delights dont fade
we forget how to hold them
be empty like the lover, touched
for the very first time
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
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Reply #4 posted 08/23/06 4:26am

BoySimon

Prince preaches. This is the only reason why this is interesting with regards his musical output. Prince has always alllowed his faith to affect what he says... and is why a number of his fans have ... been diappointed with some of what he has had to say. Personally, I prefer the secular Prince to the ... non-secular one.
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Reply #5 posted 08/23/06 8:14pm

amateur

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having his first period
young, dumb, and no fun..
most of my threads are missing
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Reply #6 posted 08/23/06 8:23pm

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I like how the responses on this site r so diverse. So members can just answer the question concisely, but yet there the people that answer the question but add in their comments to the author of the forum that sound like Get over it, or Here we go again. Not saying it's wrong to say what's on ur mind but it's quite entertaining really. lol
hav u had ur + sign 2 day.
eye wish u heaven
worship GOD
prince
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Reply #7 posted 08/23/06 8:27pm

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Actually I think it is the fans we should ask this Question MICK.

The fans are the 1's complainin about the music. 2 me Prince has always been wierd and misunderstood. Until a few months i never undestood anything he did, Until I learned the word and how it related 2 aboutevery song he has.
hav u had ur + sign 2 day.
eye wish u heaven
worship GOD
prince
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Reply #8 posted 08/23/06 8:27pm

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Purplerain7772001 said:

I like how the responses on this site r so diverse. So members can just answer the question concisely, but yet there the people that answer the question but add in their comments to the author of the forum that sound like Get over it, or Here we go again. Not saying it's wrong to say what's on ur mind but it's quite entertaining really. lol



prince, is that you?
young, dumb, and no fun..
most of my threads are missing
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Reply #9 posted 08/24/06 12:58am

MickG

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Purplerain7772001 said:

Actually I think it is the fans we should ask this Question MICK.

The fans are the 1's complainin about the music. 2 me Prince has always been wierd and misunderstood. Until a few months i never undestood anything he did, Until I learned the word and how it related 2 aboutevery song he has.


I'm assuming by "the word" you mean scriptures and such, aka "the bible". I've know for far too long Prince's loose and goosy uses of such biblical segments. Some times he's right on, and then other times he's just way way off. I only wish I would understand more his perspective on what he is saying.

I dug, and felt prince was rightous while he was talking about such things as in the songs 7, thunder, others, and even songs I've yet to hear, but then he goes belly up, and that's a great disapointment.

Let alone, I wrote to him around that time and then seen his music change. I know it seems presumptious that my statements made to him might change his perspective in a context toward fools-self-rightousness, and away from "the truth", but you would have to understand the package sent and the message recieved. wink If Prince was looking for something, and he found it, but it wasn't what he was looking for, one must question if that wouldn't bring about the downslide change.

If you know me a little, and feel any power in my statments, all you would have to do is ampliphy my statements made here to about 10x10 to understand the statement made toward prince at that time frame. As always it was also well timed and excuited, as can only come from a man with a mission. smile

I'd like to understand it wasn't me. I'm sure I'll get crap from hate crew, but it's simply the truth.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #10 posted 08/24/06 1:11am

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prince makes use of bible vocabulary as an npger. which is totally oxymoron to me.
young, dumb, and no fun..
most of my threads are missing
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Reply #11 posted 08/24/06 1:13am

MickG

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amateur said:

which is totally oxymoron to me.


hmm

you forgot the a.

However it is incorrect too.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #12 posted 08/24/06 1:19am

amateur

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MickG said:

amateur said:

which is totally oxymoron to me.


hmm

you forgot the a.

However it is incorrect too.



npg stands for what mr? i'm not incorrect, it's a paradox.. oxymoron same thing
young, dumb, and no fun..
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Reply #13 posted 08/24/06 4:23am

sacredwarrior

mayb he never understood that what God wanted for him, was better than what he wanted for himself

my 11 year old suffers the same problem from time to time, he gets an idea in his head of something that would be totally awesome, and he just so disappointed when it doesnt turn out like he WANTED, that he misses how beautiful, and far better, what actually happened, iz.

ego kills everything truly beautiful in this world
jealousy, spite, arrogance, fear,
some of the most publicly proclaimed 'christians' have no clue about trust
just to trust life
instead of imposing our own idea of heaven over it
which is nowhere near the real thing

to be so preconceived and presumptuous
taking open doors for granted
so stuck in indecision
no true inner compass

fickle moods
changing belief from one day to the next
rarely rooted solidly on the rock of true faith
lover of sensual pleasures
animal instincts

naive in romance
quick to dominate and control
always ready to blame
paralised by defensiveness
speechless in the presence of proof
utterly non-commital to anything more than fancy

too proud to beg
when begging would suit
too shackled by insecurity
when vulnerability needed

unintentional cowardice
fooled by faces
petrified of the Righteous One
everything he isnt
exposed

perceiving threat where there is none
paranoid
already seen straight through
habitually struggling

the most beautiful ocean i have ever seen heard and felt
polluted by one single drop of fear
cast away
remote islander in a sea of hidden friends
mirror dissolving to reveal only one reflection
and it isnt his alone

love knows, sees all, forgives, challenges, smiles, waits
for prison bars to bend
must come from within the able
true knowledge of life
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
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Reply #14 posted 08/24/06 1:16pm

wendyrachel

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Hes conforming to his new religion.....

.....unfortunately sigh
fallinluv
'Ive never been 1 2 hide my feelings, Baby, u blow my mind
I painted your face upon my ceiling, I stare at it all the time...'fallinluv

http://www.myspace.com/welshmess
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Reply #15 posted 08/24/06 1:25pm

ElCapitan

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Apparently, like most people, his relationship with God is changing over the course of his life. The difference b/t him and most people is that he's put that change out there for the masses to pick apart.

Whether or not that's a good thing....it's his life, his choices, if he's happy, WTF do I care really?
"What kind of fuck ending is that?"
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Reply #16 posted 08/25/06 9:43pm

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MickG said:

Purplerain7772001 said:

Actually I think it is the fans we should ask this Question MICK.

The fans are the 1's complainin about the music. 2 me Prince has always been wierd and misunderstood. Until a few months i never undestood anything he did, Until I learned the word and how it related 2 aboutevery song he has.


I'm assuming by "the word" you mean scriptures and such, aka "the bible". I've know for far too long Prince's loose and goosy uses of such biblical segments. Some times he's right on, and then other times he's just way way off. I only wish I would understand more his perspective on what he is saying.

I dug, and felt prince was rightous while he was talking about such things as in the songs 7, thunder, others, and even songs I've yet to hear, but then he goes belly up, and that's a great disapointment.

Let alone, I wrote to him around that time and then seen his music change. I know it seems presumptious that my statements made to him might change his perspective in a context toward fools-self-rightousness, and away from "the truth", but you would have to understand the package sent and the message recieved. wink If Prince was looking for something, and he found it, but it wasn't what he was looking for, one must question if that wouldn't bring about the downslide change.

If you know me a little, and feel any power in my statments, all you would have to do is ampliphy my statements made here to about 10x10 to understand the statement made toward prince at that time frame. As always it was also well timed and excuited, as can only come from a man with a mission. smile

I'd like to understand it wasn't me. I'm sure I'll get crap from hate crew, but it's simply the truth.


The only solution i can think of 2 this question is 2 see the way prince sees. we have 2 have the same outlook on life physically and spiritually to understand and get DEEP in the concept of his music. wink
hav u had ur + sign 2 day.
eye wish u heaven
worship GOD
prince
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Reply #17 posted 08/26/06 5:16pm

Diosuni

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The dude doesn't even know what the hell he is doing! I would'nt even try to figure that man out?
I recall Mick you said P knew you...but nobody knows him, thats 4 sure!
Ask Mani,and the rest of the chicks he threw into a mental spin on his 'rollercoaster"
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Reply #18 posted 08/26/06 6:33pm

MickG

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Diosuni said:

The dude doesn't even know what the hell he is doing! I would'nt even try to figure that man out?
I recall Mick you said P knew you...but nobody knows him, thats 4 sure!
Ask Mani,and the rest of the chicks he threw into a mental spin on his 'rollercoaster"


Yes I know, and I am sorry for all the pain he creates while trying to be "positive"
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #19 posted 08/26/06 7:22pm

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Prince is doing what you and I are doing: living his life the way he chooses to. If anyone is truly concerned about him and his well being, then pray for him. He's in need of prayer just as much as we are. Simple as that.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #20 posted 08/26/06 7:27pm

wonder505

purplecam said:

Prince is doing what you and I are doing: living his life the way he chooses to. If anyone is truly concerned about him and his well being, then pray for him. He's in need of prayer just as much as we are. Simple as that.


Nah, its more fun to over-analyze and make up things about a man we don't personally know. wink
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Reply #21 posted 08/26/06 8:08pm

gemini77

Everything changes constantly in this life, u have 2 allow room 4 spiritual growth.
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Reply #22 posted 08/26/06 10:03pm

MickG

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gemini77 said:

Everything changes constantly in this life, u have 2 allow room 4 spiritual growth.


Perhaps, if you live life as a human.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #23 posted 08/27/06 12:00am

origmnd

If I understand Mg's Q correctly...

Since 84 he's weaved in and out of the spiritual/ religious realm non-stop.

At times its more prevalent within the music , other times its mixed in with his other idealogies of life.

But I see it as ALWAYS THERE.

Even his sensual side still rears its "ugly" head , though not nearly as often or as graphic. Where he shows a more sensual than sexual side lately.
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Reply #24 posted 08/27/06 12:04am

MickG

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origmnd said:

If I understand Mg's Q correctly...

Since 84 he's weaved in and out of the spiritual/ religious realm non-stop.

At times its more prevalent within the music , other times its mixed in with his other idealogies of life.

But I see it as ALWAYS THERE.

Even his sensual side still rears its "ugly" head , though not nearly as often or as graphic. Where he shows a more sensual than sexual side lately.


You didn't understand the question, but feel bad not for nor did anyone else.

The point of my inquirery was, granted the "spiritual" stuff is always been there, there is a singular point where it transitioned from self established power to the externalized searching for spiritual knowledge.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #25 posted 08/27/06 12:16am

christos7

sacredwarrior said:

mayb he never understood that what God wanted for him, was better than what he wanted for himself

my 11 year old suffers the same problem from time to time, he gets an idea in his head of something that would be totally awesome, and he just so disappointed when it doesnt turn out like he WANTED, that he misses how beautiful, and far better, what actually happened, iz.

ego kills everything truly beautiful in this world
jealousy, spite, arrogance, fear,
some of the most publicly proclaimed 'christians' have no clue about trust
just to trust life
instead of imposing our own idea of heaven over it
which is nowhere near the real thing

to be so preconceived and presumptuous
taking open doors for granted
so stuck in indecision
no true inner compass

fickle moods
changing belief from one day to the next
rarely rooted solidly on the rock of true faith
lover of sensual pleasures
animal instincts

naive in romance
quick to dominate and control
always ready to blame
paralised by defensiveness
speechless in the presence of proof
utterly non-commital to anything more than fancy

too proud to beg
when begging would suit
too shackled by insecurity
when vulnerability needed

unintentional cowardice
fooled by faces
petrified of the Righteous One
everything he isnt
exposed

perceiving threat where there is none
paranoid
already seen straight through
habitually struggling

the most beautiful ocean i have ever seen heard and felt
polluted by one single drop of fear
cast away
remote islander in a sea of hidden friends
mirror dissolving to reveal only one reflection
and it isnt his alone

love knows, sees all, forgives, challenges, smiles, waits
for prison bars to bend
must come from within the able
true knowledge of life



Marry me... mushy fallinluv
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Reply #26 posted 08/27/06 12:18am

origmnd

MickG said:

origmnd said:

If I understand Mg's Q correctly...

Since 84 he's weaved in and out of the spiritual/ religious realm non-stop.

At times its more prevalent within the music , other times its mixed in with his other idealogies of life.

But I see it as ALWAYS THERE.

Even his sensual side still rears its "ugly" head , though not nearly as often or as graphic. Where he shows a more sensual than sexual side lately.


You didn't understand the question, but feel bad not for nor did anyone else.

The point of my inquirery was, granted the "spiritual" stuff is always been there, there is a singular point where it transitioned from self established power to the externalized searching for spiritual knowledge.



What makes u think he has abandoned the internal power for an external source?

Couldnt he have used his inner trappings to gain strength to be able to go outside his "vision" for a more well rounded and developed source of stability?
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Reply #27 posted 08/27/06 1:38am

MickG

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origmnd said:

Couldnt he have used his inner trappings to gain strength to be able to go outside his "vision" for a more well rounded and developed source of stability?


In the final production, this turns out to be the case, but No I didn't think it was intentional. smile
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #28 posted 08/27/06 5:05am

sacredwarrior

christos7 said:

sacredwarrior said:

mayb he never understood that what God wanted for him, was better than what he wanted for himself

my 11 year old suffers the same problem from time to time, he gets an idea in his head of something that would be totally awesome, and he just so disappointed when it doesnt turn out like he WANTED, that he misses how beautiful, and far better, what actually happened, iz.

ego kills everything truly beautiful in this world
jealousy, spite, arrogance, fear,
some of the most publicly proclaimed 'christians' have no clue about trust
just to trust life
instead of imposing our own idea of heaven over it
which is nowhere near the real thing

to be so preconceived and presumptuous
taking open doors for granted
so stuck in indecision
no true inner compass

fickle moods
changing belief from one day to the next
rarely rooted solidly on the rock of true faith
lover of sensual pleasures
animal instincts

naive in romance
quick to dominate and control
always ready to blame
paralised by defensiveness
speechless in the presence of proof
utterly non-commital to anything more than fancy

too proud to beg
when begging would suit
too shackled by insecurity
when vulnerability needed

unintentional cowardice
fooled by faces
petrified of the Righteous One
everything he isnt
exposed

perceiving threat where there is none
paranoid
already seen straight through
habitually struggling

the most beautiful ocean i have ever seen heard and felt
polluted by one single drop of fear
cast away
remote islander in a sea of hidden friends
mirror dissolving to reveal only one reflection
and it isnt his alone

love knows, sees all, forgives, challenges, smiles, waits
for prison bars to bend
must come from within the able
true knowledge of life



Marry me... mushy fallinluv


heart lol why? heart
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Reply #29 posted 08/27/06 6:47am

purplecam

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wonder505 said:

purplecam said:

Prince is doing what you and I are doing: living his life the way he chooses to. If anyone is truly concerned about him and his well being, then pray for him. He's in need of prayer just as much as we are. Simple as that.


Nah, its more fun to over-analyze and make up things about a man we don't personally know. wink

Unfortunately, you are telling the truth. And the over-analyations (if that's a word lol) causes lies and foolishness to occur. But the org wouldn't be the org without all of that. It is what it is I guess.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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