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Printable the12love38 said: [b]IS I WISH U HEAVEN GOING TO BE ON TIS COMPILATION OF REMIXES IT WILL BE NICE IF IT IS
No. Read the track list, it's listed above.... | |
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jn2 said: Graycap23 said: A sign of things 2 come? Of course: the remastered D& P with a new mix of Shockadelica.
you wrong for that...  | |
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kidelrich said: It's a crime that Erotic City isn't on there. Just listened to that again yesterday and it's still incredible.
 So was the 12" for Mountains. Not sure why Cream is even on there, since it's a suckass house remix.I agree!  | |
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Don't know if this has been reported yet, but the set can be found in Best Buys in the Twin Cities [at least the Best Buy that is in Minnetonka]... don't know if others have put it out yet. It's $22.99 |
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JediMaster said: The new regime at Warner's have actually been trying to get Prince BACK on their label, . they should work it out... i say do a major release every few year, but prince can put out whatever he likes in between. i think miles davis had a deal like that. | |
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JediMaster said: txladykat said: actually, it is 35 years. if it were 25 years, WB's rights to his first three albums would have already terminated.
37 U.S.C. ยง 202.3(a)(3). Termination of the grant may be effected at any time during a period of five years beginning at the end of thirty-five years from the date of execution of the grant; or, if the grant covers the right of publication of the work, the period begins at the end of thirty-five years from the date of publication of the work under the grant or at the end of forty years from the date of execution of the grant, whichever term ends earlier. Thanks for clarifying this. I wondered why we hadn't heard anything about the rights reverting back by now. U JUST DID  ANY CONTRACT ASKING SOMEONE TO SIGN RIGHTS OVER - IS A BOGUS CONTRACT. A HOAX. IT IS SAYING ' AGREE WITH US THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO STEAL FROM YOU '.
PRINCE OWNS HIS MASTERS AND ALWAYS HAS. FOR WB TO LEGALLY 'OWN THE RIGHTS' THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY HIM FOR THEM. OTHERWISE ITS THEFT VIA SOPHISTRY : AN ARGUMENT THAT DECEIVES 
A TRULY GOOD LAWYER WOULDA NAILED THAT POINT AND WON IN A COURT OF LAW AGES AGO, NULLIFYING THE CONTRACT BASED ON DECEPTIVE IMMORAL ILLEGAL INTENT. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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except WB paid for the masters. (prince charged studio time to WB) so they are WBs/ prince owns the publishing. not the masters. if a laywer could have, one would have years ago. | |
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sacredwarrior said: JediMaster said: Thanks for clarifying this. I wondered why we hadn't heard anything about the rights reverting back by now. U JUST DID ANY CONTRACT ASKING SOMEONE TO SIGN RIGHTS OVER - IS A BOGUS CONTRACT. A HOAX. IT IS SAYING ' AGREE WITH US THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO STEAL FROM YOU '.
PRINCE OWNS HIS MASTERS AND ALWAYS HAS. FOR WB TO LEGALLY 'OWN THE RIGHTS' THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY HIM FOR THEM. [/b][/color] um, they did pay for them. what the hell do you think all that money they paid him was for? | |
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Dayspring said: PurplePupil said: How much warner Bros paying you
not a cent. how much did you get paid to be a brain donor? If Prince didn't approve of this project, it wouldn't be released. You know why? Because the terms of him being released from his contract in 1996 were that he delivered Chaos & Disorder, The Vault (to be released later) and the right of WB to release one compilation, the date and contents of which were to be determined later (which ended up being The Very Best Of Prince). In fact, when this CD was first announced last winter/spring, they actually HELD OFF on putting it out, because Prince requested that the tracklist be changed (he didn't want Erotic City and Sexy MF on there). Then they held off again while 3121 was released. And even if he didn't approve of the project, why would it be bad for Warner Bros to release it? You act as if they're getting paid and Prince isn't. I have news for you, Prince gets paid every time his music is sold or used, whether it's a Warner Bros. release or not. It's called royalties. Second, Warner Bros. isn't even owned by the same people as it was when Prince was signed to that label. And I have news for you, if there are ever going to be re-mastered re-issues of Prince's work from 1978-1996, it's going to be through Warner Bros., so you'd better get used to the idea of buying Prince material from them. If he wanted to own his masters so badly, he'd pony up the cash to buy them from Warner Bros. He sold them to them (via his contract), he should have to buy them back if he wants it. It isn't like Warner Bros. didn't put any work and money into making Prince a mega-star and mega-millionaire all those years he was signed to them. They ought to be getting SOMETHING of a return on their investment. As I said before, if Prince actually cared about owning his masters, he'd buy them like anyone else would have to, and since he's been "#1 at the bank" (his words) since 1996, then it really shouldn't be a problem for him to do it. Or he could have negotiated it at the time he was let out of his contract. Or he could have signed a new contract (for less money) with them when the time came that stipulated that ownership of the masters would be his. This is how many, many other big name acts have gained ownership of their master recordings. Why is Prince a special case? I can guarantee you that burning his bridges by completely severing ties with them and badmouthing them for a decade certainly hasn't done him any good with respect to getting back what he believes is rightfully his. Clearly he just wants to throw tantrums and have it handed over to him free and clear. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Ford isn't coming to you and asking for your car back because they decided on a whim that they want to own everything that rightfully belongs to them. You bought the car. You own it. They bought the masters (at a pretty penny, no less), they own them. Until Prince is willing to shell out the dough for them instead of bitching and moaning about it, then all of his fans need to shut the fuck up and stop badmouthing Warner Bros. just to suck up to him. But, of course, this is all moot, because Prince was involved in picking the tracks.  What makes YOU think that Prince didn't try to buy back ALL of his masters to begin with? And BTW, when Prince did requested to buy them back, WB said no! | |
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sosgemini said: unclenick1871 said: Just another repack of the same stuff. Another way for WB to steal more money from The Kid.
DO NOT BUY! 
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kidelrich said: It's a crime that Erotic City isn't on there. Just listened to that again yesterday and it's still incredible.
Sw was the 12" for Mountains. Not sure why Cream is even on there, since it's a suckass house remix.Out of respect for Prince's faith, I don't think it was necessary for another release of Erotic City. It bad enough for the little guy to feel guilty for Head & Darling Nikki. | |
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SlamGlam said: except WB paid for the masters. (prince charged studio time to WB) so they are WBs/ prince owns the publishing. not the masters. if a laywer could have, one would have years ago.
PRINCE HAS RECOUPED HIS COSTS. THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT. BUT HE LIVES IN A WORLD OF MANS LAWS AND LAWYERS WHOSE BRAINS LITERALLY DO NOT WORK PROPERLY. THEY R TRAINED TO WORK WITHIN THE LAW, NOT TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. JUST AS ALL FORMS OF MANS GOVERNMENTS R HOAXES, SO R RECORDING CONTRACTS THAT CLAIM OWNERSHIP OF RIGHTS AND MASTERS AND ANYTHING ELSE, PAST THE POINT OF ALL COSTS BEING RECOUPED BY THE ARTIST. ITS A SCAM. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: SlamGlam said: except WB paid for the masters. (prince charged studio time to WB) so they are WBs/ prince owns the publishing. not the masters. if a laywer could have, one would have years ago.
PRINCE HAS RECOUPED HIS COSTS. THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT. BUT HE LIVES IN A WORLD OF MANS LAWS AND LAWYERS WHOSE BRAINS LITERALLY DO NOT WORK PROPERLY. THEY R TRAINED TO WORK WITHIN THE LAW, NOT TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. JUST AS ALL FORMS OF MANS GOVERNMENTS R HOAXES, SO R RECORDING CONTRACTS THAT CLAIM OWNERSHIP OF RIGHTS AND MASTERS AND ANYTHING ELSE, PAST THE POINT OF ALL COSTS BEING RECOUPED BY THE ARTIST. ITS A SCAM. Thank you sacred because it seems like mr Dayspring is either a warner exec or a Lawyer  "tonight ur a Star and I'm the Big dipper" | |
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TonyVanDam said: Dayspring said: not a cent. how much did you get paid to be a brain donor? If Prince didn't approve of this project, it wouldn't be released. You know why? Because the terms of him being released from his contract in 1996 were that he delivered Chaos & Disorder, The Vault (to be released later) and the right of WB to release one compilation, the date and contents of which were to be determined later (which ended up being The Very Best Of Prince). In fact, when this CD was first announced last winter/spring, they actually HELD OFF on putting it out, because Prince requested that the tracklist be changed (he didn't want Erotic City and Sexy MF on there). Then they held off again while 3121 was released. And even if he didn't approve of the project, why would it be bad for Warner Bros to release it? You act as if they're getting paid and Prince isn't. I have news for you, Prince gets paid every time his music is sold or used, whether it's a Warner Bros. release or not. It's called royalties. Second, Warner Bros. isn't even owned by the same people as it was when Prince was signed to that label. And I have news for you, if there are ever going to be re-mastered re-issues of Prince's work from 1978-1996, it's going to be through Warner Bros., so you'd better get used to the idea of buying Prince material from them. If he wanted to own his masters so badly, he'd pony up the cash to buy them from Warner Bros. He sold them to them (via his contract), he should have to buy them back if he wants it. It isn't like Warner Bros. didn't put any work and money into making Prince a mega-star and mega-millionaire all those years he was signed to them. They ought to be getting SOMETHING of a return on their investment. As I said before, if Prince actually cared about owning his masters, he'd buy them like anyone else would have to, and since he's been "#1 at the bank" (his words) since 1996, then it really shouldn't be a problem for him to do it. Or he could have negotiated it at the time he was let out of his contract. Or he could have signed a new contract (for less money) with them when the time came that stipulated that ownership of the masters would be his. This is how many, many other big name acts have gained ownership of their master recordings. Why is Prince a special case? I can guarantee you that burning his bridges by completely severing ties with them and badmouthing them for a decade certainly hasn't done him any good with respect to getting back what he believes is rightfully his. Clearly he just wants to throw tantrums and have it handed over to him free and clear. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Ford isn't coming to you and asking for your car back because they decided on a whim that they want to own everything that rightfully belongs to them. You bought the car. You own it. They bought the masters (at a pretty penny, no less), they own them. Until Prince is willing to shell out the dough for them instead of bitching and moaning about it, then all of his fans need to shut the fuck up and stop badmouthing Warner Bros. just to suck up to him. But, of course, this is all moot, because Prince was involved in picking the tracks. What makes YOU think that Prince didn't try to buy back ALL of his masters to begin with? And BTW, when Prince did requested to buy them back, WB said no! well tough shit for him then. he shouldn't have thrown a 10 year tantrum. i wouldn't sell them back to him at this point either, just to spite him. | |
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Dayspring said: TonyVanDam said: What makes YOU think that Prince didn't try to buy back ALL of his masters to begin with? And BTW, when Prince did requested to buy them back, WB said no! well tough shit for him then. he shouldn't have thrown a 10 year tantrum. i wouldn't sell them back to him at this point either, just to spite him. See I knew he was Just a Prince Hater why is he wastin his time spittin venom but I guess people like Day make this site Hot LOL "tonight ur a Star and I'm the Big dipper" | |
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PurplePupil said: Dayspring said: well tough shit for him then. he shouldn't have thrown a 10 year tantrum. i wouldn't sell them back to him at this point either, just to spite him. See I knew he was Just a Prince Hater why is he wastin his time spittin venom but I guess people like Day make this site Hot LOL Some people accuse Dayspring for being an employee of the WB Music Group!
I don't think it's true. Where's the evidences? | |
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Dayspring said: not a cent. how much did you get paid to be a brain donor? If Prince didn't approve of this project, it wouldn't be released. You know why? Because the terms of him being released from his contract in 1996 were that he delivered Chaos & Disorder, The Vault (to be released later) and the right of WB to release one compilation, the date and contents of which were to be determined later (which ended up being The Very Best Of Prince). GUESS WHAT. IT IS A VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS TO HOLD ANYONE PRISONER TO ANYTHING. SUCH CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS R, BY HOLY LAW - DEFUNCT HOAXES. BASED ON REASON OF DISCONNECTED NEURONS IN ONE'S BRAIN THAT DOESNT CONNECT WITH THE SOURCE OF ALL PURE CLEAN UNADULTERATED HOLY LOGIC. In fact, when this CD was first announced last winter/spring, they actually HELD OFF on putting it out, because Prince requested that the tracklist be changed (he didn't want Erotic City and Sexy MF on there). Then they held off again while 3121 was released. And even if he didn't approve of the project, why would it be bad for Warner Bros to release it? You act as if they're getting paid and Prince isn't. I have news for you, Prince gets paid every time his music is sold or used, whether it's a Warner Bros. release or not. It's called royalties. ROYALTIES WHICH PAID A MILLION TIMES OVER 4 ANY AND ALL RIGHTS TO SAID RIGHTS AND MASTERS. Second, Warner Bros. isn't even owned by the same people as it was when Prince was signed to that label. And I have news for you, if there are ever going to be re-mastered re-issues of Prince's work from 1978-1996, it's going to be through Warner Bros., so you'd better get used to the idea of buying Prince material from them. [b]NO SORRY I WONT. BECAUSE I DONT DEAL WITH ILLEGAL CONTRACTS THAT VIOLATE THE BASIC RIGHTS OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT, SPIRITUAL INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, PARASITISM OR MONEY-BASED MOTIVATED HOAXES, DELIVERED WITH SOPHISTRY, DECEIT, AND A BULLYING-TYPE IMAGINED POWER OVER OTHERS. SUCH CONTRACTS DO NOT STAND IN THE NEW WORLD BECAUSE THEY R FLAWED ACCORDING TO PURE REASON, JUSTICE, AND RESPECT. If he wanted to own his masters so badly, he'd pony up the cash to buy them from Warner Bros. He sold them to them (via his contract), he should have to buy them back if he wants it. THEY CANT OWN SOMETHING THEY DIDNT CREATE. WHETHER THEY PAID FOR THEM OR NOT - THEY TECHNICALLY DO NOT OWN THE INSIDES OF ANOTHER PERSONS MIND. AGAIN - PURE LOGIC. THIS R HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES. AND HOLY BUSINESS ISSUES PERTAINING TO WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS BLATANTLY WRONG WHEN PUFFING ONESELF UP IN ELITEST POWER WORSHIP OVER OTHER HUMAN BEINGS WITH THE RIGHT TO CREATE FREELY AND NOT BE HELD PRISONER WHILE DOING SO, OR ANY TIME THEREAFTER. MANS LAWS R BOGUS HOAXES AND CAN B PROVEN AS SUCH IN ONE OF THEIR LITTLE COURTS OF LAW. It isn't like Warner Bros. didn't put any work and money into making Prince a mega-star and mega-millionaire all those years he was signed to them. NO ACTUALLY THEY DIDNT. THEY FINANCED THEIR OWN INTREST IN MAKING MONEY OFF SOMETHING THEY NEVER GAVE HIM OR PAID FOR AND NEVER WILL BE ABLE TO - HIS SPIRIT, HIS MIND, HIS BODY, HIS HEART. LAST TIME I CHECKED, THEY DIDNT PAY FOR NONE OF THOSE THINGS. MONEY CANT BUY THEM. SO MUTE POINT. They ought to be getting SOMETHING of a return on their investment. THEY ALREADY HAVE A MILLION TIMES OVER AND WAY PAST WHAT THEY OR ANY RECORD COMPANY EVER DESERVES. As I said before, if Prince actually cared about owning his masters, he'd buy them like anyone else would have to, and since he's been "#1 at the bank" (his words) since 1996, then it really shouldn't be a problem for him to do it.[/b] Or he could have negotiated it at the time he was let out of his contract. Or he could have signed a new contract (for less money) with them when the time came that stipulated that ownership of the masters would be his. This is how many, many other big name acts have gained ownership of their master recordings. WRONG. ALL ARTISTS OWN THEIR RECORDINGS, MASTERS, PUBLISHING, THE SPLIT SECOND IS IT RECORDED. WHAT U R DECRIBING IS A BULLYING POWER BASED ON IGNORANCE, IT MAKES ARTISTS BELIEVE THEY DO NOT OWN THEIR WORK UNTIL THEY PAY FOR IT WITH MONEY. GUESS WHAT. ART DOESNT COME FROM RECORD COMPANIES. ALL THEY DO IS INVEST IN THE ART. THEY DO.NOT.OWN.IT. SO ANY RIGHTS OR MASTERS CANNOT BE SOLD BACK AND FORTH. IT IS AN ILLUSORY HOAX. ALL THEY'RE DOIN IS PLAYING WITH MONEY AT THE EXPENSE OF AN ARTISTS INTEGRITY, TALENT, SOUL, MIND AND HEART. I'D CALL THAT PRETTY FUCKING EVIL WOULDNT YOU. Why is Prince a special case? I can guarantee you that burning his bridges by completely severing ties with them and badmouthing them for a decade certainly hasn't done him any good with respect to getting back what he believes is rightfully his. IT IS RIGHTFULLY HIS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. HE CREATED IT. NEXT CHAPTER... GOD OWNS ALL OF IT. BUT IN MANS WORLD, PRINCE IS THE RIGHTFUL TECHNICAL OWNER OF ALL WORK, SIMPLY BY BIRTHRIGHT. Clearly he just wants to throw tantrums and have it handed over to him free and clear. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. YES IT DOES CUZ THEY DONT TECHNICALLY OWN IT. ITS GOT NUTHIN TO DO WITH THEIR LILY-LIVERED MONEY EITHER. Ford isn't coming to you and asking for your car back because they decided on a whim that they want to own everything that rightfully belongs to them. You bought the car. You own it. They bought the masters (at a pretty penny, no less), they own them. NO THEY DONT. LOVE FROM PRETTY PENELOPE ( PENNY ) Until Prince is willing to shell out the dough for them instead of bitching and moaning about it, then all of his fans need to shut the fuck up and stop badmouthing Warner Bros. just to suck up to him. THIS IS ABOUT WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD IN THE EYES OF BASIC HUMAN AND SPIRITUAL RIGHTS. RECORD COMPANIES R NOT CONNECTED TO THOSE VITAL FACTORS REQUIRED IN A HARMONIOUS SOCIETY OF ART AND BASIC RESPECT. FACT. MONEY IS THEIR GOD. FACT. WHICH MAKES ANY POWER THEY THINK THEY HAVE - NON-EXISTENT IN THE REAL WORLD. But, of course, this is all moot, because Prince was involved in picking the tracks.
AW GEE HOW KIND OF WB TO LET HIM DO THAT. THE STINK OF CORPORATE IGNORANCE IS WAFTING UP FROM THE BOWELS OF HELL. ONE CAN ONLY HOPE THEY ENJOY THEIR TIME CHASING THE FLAMES LICKING AT THEIR FEET. SO FAR, THEY MAINTAIN A DEFENSIVE POSITION, AND THANKFULLY SO, BECAUSE ANY ARTIST WHO SMELLED THE RECORD COMPANY COFFEE, WILL TAKE THAT BULLYING AS A SIGN TO STAY AWAY FROM THEM AND RELEASE THEIR OWN MUSIC, OWNED SOLEY BY THEM, ALL RIGHTS AND MASTERS OWNED SOLEY BY THEM, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE GOD -FORCE MUSIC ACTUALLY COMES FROM, AND GIVE THEIR MUSIC AWAY ON THE INTERNET, CUTTING THE FOUL STENCH OF CORPORATE GREED AND LICENTIOUS BLACK MAGIC, OUT OF THE PICTURE COMPLETELY. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY SIR. SUGGESTED READING " LIFE IN A SOVEREIGN WORLD "
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I'd like to see P happy with ownership of his masters. John Fogerty went through the same thing. On the other hand, there's always two sides to every story. The music industry takes risks investing in new artists and for every successful artist there's umpteen $$ lost with unsuccessful musicians. P's deal with Clilve Davis(after WB) went sour and Clive was and is a strong proponent of musicians. How often do you hear musical artists criticize him?? Never!! That's P blaming him for things not going well. I think P's ego interferes with his accepting responsibility for his sporatic behavior and decision making. | |
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kidelrich said: It's a crime that Erotic City isn't on there. Just listened to that again yesterday and it's still incredible.
Sw was the 12" for Mountains. Not sure why Cream is even on there, since it's a suckass house remix.I agree. EC & Mountains are two of the best 12" the little guy ever did. I'll probably buy this anyway...to have this stuff remastered is reason enough for me. As well as the long version of Shes Always in My Hair...my vinyl copy is scratched to shit from being played consistantly since 1985! | |
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man i was so hoping they would have changed it some... oh well i still have my copy... no need to buy another one... too bad they did not give me a reason to pick it up! | |
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geesh..already, WB DOES NOT OWN PRINCE'S MASTERS. PRINCE OWNS HIS MASTERS. WB just retains the publishing rights to the masters for 35 years from the time they are published.
This was agreed to between Prince and WB. Later in life, Prince discovered he didn't want to do things this way, so he quit doing contracts. Kudos to him for doing what he thought was right for him. At the time he signed the contracts with WB, he probably thought that was in his best interest...and back in 1978, it probably was. Prince wouldn't be where he is today without a major label (whether it be WB or anyone else) to project him into the spotlight in the beginning of his career. Furthermore, Prince is not losing out on any of this. He made alot of money through WB, and he continues to make money through WB on the masters THAT HE OWNS but has ASSIGNED to WB. Lastly, why harp over the fact that WB has the rights to the masters as of now, when Prince himself has always said, old music is old music, i like to go forward with the new. It obviously isn't an issue to him, as it is old music. sacred...do you own/rent a house? a car? our life is operated by contracts, like it or not. That is because not everyone in this world can be trusted on "their word", hence the need for binding contracts. And, btw...why are you always yelling in your posts? | |
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out Of ALL THE SONGS PRINCE HAS RECORDED WHY DOES IT SEEM LIKE THEY PUT THE SAME SONGS ALL THE TIME... THE MAJORITY OF THESE SONGS WERE ON THE HITS AND THE VERY BEST OF PRINCE. ITS ALMOST LIKE THE SAME CD, JUST THE SONGS ARE PUT IN A DIFFRENT ORDER AND A NICE SHINY NEW PACKAGE.... BUT I MUST ADMIT, IM A SUCKER 4 HIM SO MOST LIKELY I WILL OWN A COPY  | |
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rockyraccoon said: SO I GUESS IF U WERE ONE OF THE ONE'S WHO PAID $50 TO $100 FOR THIS SET U ARE PRETTY PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW...
WELL, GREED COMES THRU WHEN U EXPECT IT LEAST, AND WITH PRINCE FANS IT'S ALWAYS WHEN SOMETHING IS DELAYED OR RETRACTED. OTHER GENRES HAVE FANS WHO ARE ALWAYS MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE GETS THEIR HANDS ON A RECALLED OR DELAYED ALBUM, BUT NOT PRINCE FANS, JUST LIKE PRINCE, THEY ARE ALL OUT TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK.  | |
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sacredwarrior said: Dayspring said: not a cent. how much did you get paid to be a brain donor? If Prince didn't approve of this project, it wouldn't be released. You know why? Because the terms of him being released from his contract in 1996 were that he delivered Chaos & Disorder, The Vault (to be released later) and the right of WB to release one compilation, the date and contents of which were to be determined later (which ended up being The Very Best Of Prince). GUESS WHAT. IT IS A VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS TO HOLD ANYONE PRISONER TO ANYTHING. SUCH CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS R, BY HOLY LAW - DEFUNCT HOAXES. BASED ON REASON OF DISCONNECTED NEURONS IN ONE'S BRAIN THAT DOESNT CONNECT WITH THE SOURCE OF ALL PURE CLEAN UNADULTERATED HOLY LOGIC. In fact, when this CD was first announced last winter/spring, they actually HELD OFF on putting it out, because Prince requested that the tracklist be changed (he didn't want Erotic City and Sexy MF on there). Then they held off again while 3121 was released. And even if he didn't approve of the project, why would it be bad for Warner Bros to release it? You act as if they're getting paid and Prince isn't. I have news for you, Prince gets paid every time his music is sold or used, whether it's a Warner Bros. release or not. It's called royalties. ROYALTIES WHICH PAID A MILLION TIMES OVER 4 ANY AND ALL RIGHTS TO SAID RIGHTS AND MASTERS. Second, Warner Bros. isn't even owned by the same people as it was when Prince was signed to that label. And I have news for you, if there are ever going to be re-mastered re-issues of Prince's work from 1978-1996, it's going to be through Warner Bros., so you'd better get used to the idea of buying Prince material from them. [b]NO SORRY I WONT. BECAUSE I DONT DEAL WITH ILLEGAL CONTRACTS THAT VIOLATE THE BASIC RIGHTS OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT, SPIRITUAL INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, PARASITISM OR MONEY-BASED MOTIVATED HOAXES, DELIVERED WITH SOPHISTRY, DECEIT, AND A BULLYING-TYPE IMAGINED POWER OVER OTHERS. SUCH CONTRACTS DO NOT STAND IN THE NEW WORLD BECAUSE THEY R FLAWED ACCORDING TO PURE REASON, JUSTICE, AND RESPECT. If he wanted to own his masters so badly, he'd pony up the cash to buy them from Warner Bros. He sold them to them (via his contract), he should have to buy them back if he wants it. THEY CANT OWN SOMETHING THEY DIDNT CREATE. WHETHER THEY PAID FOR THEM OR NOT - THEY TECHNICALLY DO NOT OWN THE INSIDES OF ANOTHER PERSONS MIND. AGAIN - PURE LOGIC. THIS R HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES. AND HOLY BUSINESS ISSUES PERTAINING TO WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS BLATANTLY WRONG WHEN PUFFING ONESELF UP IN ELITEST POWER WORSHIP OVER OTHER HUMAN BEINGS WITH THE RIGHT TO CREATE FREELY AND NOT BE HELD PRISONER WHILE DOING SO, OR ANY TIME THEREAFTER. MANS LAWS R BOGUS HOAXES AND CAN B PROVEN AS SUCH IN ONE OF THEIR LITTLE COURTS OF LAW. It isn't like Warner Bros. didn't put any work and money into making Prince a mega-star and mega-millionaire all those years he was signed to them. NO ACTUALLY THEY DIDNT. THEY FINANCED THEIR OWN INTREST IN MAKING MONEY OFF SOMETHING THEY NEVER GAVE HIM OR PAID FOR AND NEVER WILL BE ABLE TO - HIS SPIRIT, HIS MIND, HIS BODY, HIS HEART. LAST TIME I CHECKED, THEY DIDNT PAY FOR NONE OF THOSE THINGS. MONEY CANT BUY THEM. SO MUTE POINT. They ought to be getting SOMETHING of a return on their investment. THEY ALREADY HAVE A MILLION TIMES OVER AND WAY PAST WHAT THEY OR ANY RECORD COMPANY EVER DESERVES. As I said before, if Prince actually cared about owning his masters, he'd buy them like anyone else would have to, and since he's been "#1 at the bank" (his words) since 1996, then it really shouldn't be a problem for him to do it.[/b] Or he could have negotiated it at the time he was let out of his contract. Or he could have signed a new contract (for less money) with them when the time came that stipulated that ownership of the masters would be his. This is how many, many other big name acts have gained ownership of their master recordings. WRONG. ALL ARTISTS OWN THEIR RECORDINGS, MASTERS, PUBLISHING, THE SPLIT SECOND IS IT RECORDED. WHAT U R DECRIBING IS A BULLYING POWER BASED ON IGNORANCE, IT MAKES ARTISTS BELIEVE THEY DO NOT OWN THEIR WORK UNTIL THEY PAY FOR IT WITH MONEY. GUESS WHAT. ART DOESNT COME FROM RECORD COMPANIES. ALL THEY DO IS INVEST IN THE ART. THEY DO.NOT.OWN.IT. SO ANY RIGHTS OR MASTERS CANNOT BE SOLD BACK AND FORTH. IT IS AN ILLUSORY HOAX. ALL THEY'RE DOIN IS PLAYING WITH MONEY AT THE EXPENSE OF AN ARTISTS INTEGRITY, TALENT, SOUL, MIND AND HEART. I'D CALL THAT PRETTY FUCKING EVIL WOULDNT YOU. Why is Prince a special case? I can guarantee you that burning his bridges by completely severing ties with them and badmouthing them for a decade certainly hasn't done him any good with respect to getting back what he believes is rightfully his. IT IS RIGHTFULLY HIS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. HE CREATED IT. NEXT CHAPTER... GOD OWNS ALL OF IT. BUT IN MANS WORLD, PRINCE IS THE RIGHTFUL TECHNICAL OWNER OF ALL WORK, SIMPLY BY BIRTHRIGHT. Clearly he just wants to throw tantrums and have it handed over to him free and clear. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. YES IT DOES CUZ THEY DONT TECHNICALLY OWN IT. ITS GOT NUTHIN TO DO WITH THEIR LILY-LIVERED MONEY EITHER. Ford isn't coming to you and asking for your car back because they decided on a whim that they want to own everything that rightfully belongs to them. You bought the car. You own it. They bought the masters (at a pretty penny, no less), they own them. NO THEY DONT. LOVE FROM PRETTY PENELOPE ( PENNY ) Until Prince is willing to shell out the dough for them instead of bitching and moaning about it, then all of his fans need to shut the fuck up and stop badmouthing Warner Bros. just to suck up to him. THIS IS ABOUT WHAT IS RIGHT AND GOOD IN THE EYES OF BASIC HUMAN AND SPIRITUAL RIGHTS. RECORD COMPANIES R NOT CONNECTED TO THOSE VITAL FACTORS REQUIRED IN A HARMONIOUS SOCIETY OF ART AND BASIC RESPECT. FACT. MONEY IS THEIR GOD. FACT. WHICH MAKES ANY POWER THEY THINK THEY HAVE - NON-EXISTENT IN THE REAL WORLD. But, of course, this is all moot, because Prince was involved in picking the tracks.
AW GEE HOW KIND OF WB TO LET HIM DO THAT. THE STINK OF CORPORATE IGNORANCE IS WAFTING UP FROM THE BOWELS OF HELL. ONE CAN ONLY HOPE THEY ENJOY THEIR TIME CHASING THE FLAMES LICKING AT THEIR FEET. SO FAR, THEY MAINTAIN A DEFENSIVE POSITION, AND THANKFULLY SO, BECAUSE ANY ARTIST WHO SMELLED THE RECORD COMPANY COFFEE, WILL TAKE THAT BULLYING AS A SIGN TO STAY AWAY FROM THEM AND RELEASE THEIR OWN MUSIC, OWNED SOLEY BY THEM, ALL RIGHTS AND MASTERS OWNED SOLEY BY THEM, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE GOD -FORCE MUSIC ACTUALLY COMES FROM, AND GIVE THEIR MUSIC AWAY ON THE INTERNET, CUTTING THE FOUL STENCH OF CORPORATE GREED AND LICENTIOUS BLACK MAGIC, OUT OF THE PICTURE COMPLETELY. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY SIR. SUGGESTED READING " LIFE IN A SOVEREIGN WORLD "
Remember What he wrote on tha side of his face in the "Dolphon" Video trust me I know prince can be a pain at times but I got to side with the little man versus tha Coporation with their contracts that are Modern day slavery they get billions and you get millions if your Blessed like Prince is. Keep doing yo thing Purple one they gonna miss you when ur gone. come only once every thousands of years "tonight ur a Star and I'm the Big dipper" | |
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i think Prince is SLAVE from himself not from WB....i hope that the new Best of Remastered will announce GOODS THINGS 2 COME from PRINCE & WB new team COLLABORATION >>>> REMASTERS CDS from BACK CATALOGUE + BONUS....i don't want 2 see more Fights WB vs PRINCE....I want THINGS... GOOD 4 FANS!
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sosgemini said: Krid said: Death to the company that has made him a superstar, took risks with the 17year old kid and stood by him all through his "nasty" phase, and paid him handsomely? EXCUSE ME, what a stupid comment is this? WB made a lot of money, but so did Prince. All this crying about Master rights - he sold them, so that is that. Don't think he had a gun pointed at his had when signing the contract. read my post again...and consider the laughing out loud emoticon at the end of it while you reading... The subtle art of irony . Sometimes I need a stick to recognize it - thou shall be forgiven |
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sacredwarrior said: Dayspring said: not a cent. how much did you get paid to be a brain donor? If Prince didn't approve of this project, it wouldn't be released. You know why? Because the terms of him being released from his contract in 1996 were that he delivered Chaos & Disorder, The Vault (to be released later) and the right of WB to release one compilation, the date and contents of which were to be determined later (which ended up being The Very Best Of Prince). GUESS WHAT. IT IS A VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS TO HOLD ANYONE PRISONER TO ANYTHING. SUCH CONTRACTS AND AGREEMENTS R, BY HOLY LAW - DEFUNCT HOAXES. BASED ON REASON OF DISCONNECTED NEURONS IN ONE'S BRAIN THAT DOESNT CONNECT WITH THE SOURCE OF ALL PURE CLEAN UNADULTERATED HOLY LOGIC. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY SIR. SUGGESTED READING " LIFE IN A SOVEREIGN WORLD "
Curious, really curious: Where do you live? How old are you? What do you do for a living? Seriously, since when do you think like that? Interesting... |
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TMPletz said: kidelrich said: It's a crime that Erotic City isn't on there. Just listened to that again yesterday and it's still incredible.
So was the 12" for Mountains. Not sure why Cream is even on there, since it's a suckass house remix.I agree! | |
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PurplePupil said: sacredwarrior said: PRINCE HAS RECOUPED HIS COSTS. THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT. BUT HE LIVES IN A WORLD OF MANS LAWS AND LAWYERS WHOSE BRAINS LITERALLY DO NOT WORK PROPERLY. THEY R TRAINED TO WORK WITHIN THE LAW, NOT TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. JUST AS ALL FORMS OF MANS GOVERNMENTS R HOAXES, SO R RECORDING CONTRACTS THAT CLAIM OWNERSHIP OF RIGHTS AND MASTERS AND ANYTHING ELSE, PAST THE POINT OF ALL COSTS BEING RECOUPED BY THE ARTIST. ITS A SCAM. Thank you sacred because it seems like mr Dayspring is either a warner exec or a Lawyer  This Sux i hope Prince can Bounce back i pray he does | |
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