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Reply #30 posted 07/19/06 12:37pm

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Yeah, "Act of Contrition" is some evil sounding shit! Anyone who can't tell P is ALL OVER that track on guitar and the production truly doesn't know what Prince sounds like.


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Reply #31 posted 07/19/06 1:47pm

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DavidEye said:

Madonna has never said that she is the female Bob Dylan,and her collaborators are fully credited on her albums.But she writes MOST of her own lyrics (especially on the recent albums) and she has a clear idea of how she wants her music to sound.


Really? Does she actually share credit with Leonard/Bray/Orbit etc. on the album notes? I'm just asking. Cuz we all know what what the album says doesn't necessarily mean anything (e.g. The Family, Jill Jones etc.)

Moreover, for some reason, most of the other songs on the first album I couldn't find in the Copyright database which is weird.

Like who actually wrote lucky star??
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Reply #32 posted 07/19/06 1:51pm

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GaryMF said:

DavidEye said:

Madonna has never said that she is the female Bob Dylan,and her collaborators are fully credited on her albums.But she writes MOST of her own lyrics (especially on the recent albums) and she has a clear idea of how she wants her music to sound.


Really? Does she actually share credit with Leonard/Bray/Orbit etc. on the album notes? I'm just asking. Cuz we all know what what the album says doesn't necessarily mean anything (e.g. The Family, Jill Jones etc.)

Yes, Madonna has always credited people correctly on her albums.

Moreover, for some reason, most of the other songs on the first album I couldn't find in the Copyright database which is weird.

Like who actually wrote lucky star??


Madonna wrote Lucky Star (see she can write stuff solo when she wants to).
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Reply #33 posted 07/19/06 2:07pm

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BorisFishpaw said:[quote]

GaryMF said:


Yes, Madonna has always credited people correctly on her albums.

Moreover, for some reason, most of the other songs on the first album I couldn't find in the Copyright database which is weird.

Like who actually wrote lucky star??


Madonna wrote Lucky Star (see she can write stuff solo when she wants to).
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Sorry, but I think no one can claim "correct crediting" for any artist, unless this person witnessed the complete recording session in question.

People can agree not to be credited, because they don't want their involvement to be stated or for whatever reason. Technically, if the artist accepts such secret contribution, it is incorrect crediting. It's just not something bad at all. But it IS incorrect crediting.

That was something general. Specifically:

Didn't Madonna get sued in Belgium for having ripped off a song with "Frozen"? I think she lost the case. And the bassline in "Sorry" sounds exactly like a dance track I know (damn, I forgot the title). Is that credited?
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Reply #34 posted 07/19/06 2:24pm

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GaryMF said:

Moreover, for some reason, most of the other songs on the first album I couldn't find in the Copyright database which is weird.

Like who actually wrote lucky star??

Library of Congress database:

Registrations:

Registration: PAu-509-382
Title: Lucky star / words and music Madonna Ciccone.
Claimant: W B Music Corporation, Webo Girl Publishing, Inc. & Bleu Disque Music Company, Inc.
Created: 1983
Registered: 23 May 83

Registration: PA-183-020
Title: Lucky star / Madonna
Note: Performed by Madonna.
In: Madonna. Sire 1-23867, c1983. 1 sound disc : 33 1/3 rpm ; 12 in. side 1, band 1
Claimant: W B Music Corporation, Bleu Disque Music Company, Inc. & Webo Girl Publishing, Inc.
Created: 1983
Published: 1 Jun 83
Registered: 22 Aug 83
Author on © Application: words & music: Madonna Ciccone.
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Reply #35 posted 07/19/06 2:40pm

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EmancipationLover said:

Didn't Madonna get sued in Belgium for having ripped off a song with "Frozen"? I think she lost the case. And the bassline in "Sorry" sounds exactly like a dance track I know (damn, I forgot the title). Is that credited?

A court is reported to have upheld a claim for plagiarism for four bars in the song "Frozen":

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...449580.stm

According to the reports, Madonna was temporarily banned by a Belgian judge from performing the song pending settlement of the dispute:

http://www.arjanwrites.co...ozen_.html


"Sorry" has co-writing and remixing credit given to David Stuart Price.

http://www.synthpop.net/m...nt&id=1246

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Reply #36 posted 07/19/06 3:11pm

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I thought that was Prince's guitar all over the radio version of 'Like A Prayer'?

I think it's only available on the U.S. 3" CD single (in the longbox) which is sort of scarce.
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Reply #37 posted 07/26/06 8:14am

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blackguitaristz said:[quote]

JediMaster said:

blackguitaristz said:


Yeah, "Act of Contrition" is some evil sounding shit! Anyone who can't tell P is ALL OVER that track on guitar and the production truly doesn't know what Prince sounds like.


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Totally! The first time I heard that song, I could tell it was Prince. When I read the credits billing it to "The Powers That Be" I just had to laugh, as that HAD to be Prince's idea (and, knowing Maddy, she had to have gotten a kick outta that!)
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Reply #38 posted 07/26/06 8:15am

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Justin1972UK said:

I thought that was Prince's guitar all over the radio version of 'Like A Prayer'?

I think it's only available on the U.S. 3" CD single (in the longbox) which is sort of scarce.


Ahhh, so that is where it made an appearance? That explains why I never could find the sucker!
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Reply #39 posted 07/26/06 11:05am

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JediMaster said:

Justin1972UK said:

I think it's only available on the U.S. 3" CD single (in the longbox) which is sort of scarce.


Ahhh, so that is where it made an appearance? That explains why I never could find the sucker!


Oops it's not called 'Radio Version' - it's just called '7" Version'...



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Reply #40 posted 07/26/06 12:08pm

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Justin1972UK said:

JediMaster said:



Ahhh, so that is where it made an appearance? That explains why I never could find the sucker!


Oops it's not called 'Radio Version' - it's just called '7" Version'...



Click on the picture for a bigger view.



hey, does that intentionally look like a dress?
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Reply #41 posted 07/26/06 1:16pm

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I had thought that Prince had went into the studio and created a few songs for Madonna, but the only that saw the light of day on her album, was "love song"
Which reminds me, why isn`t Prince given a songwriting credit for "hung up" when lyrics from "love song" are used in "hung up"?
This has bothered me ever since "hung up" was released! mad
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Reply #42 posted 07/26/06 2:08pm

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Unfortunately I cannot reply to the OTHER thread on this topic - so i'm replying here.

1. "The Pope" Madonna thanks in the liner notes to The Immaculate Collection is a reference to Madonna's brother Christopher Ciccone -- NOT to the real Pope and NOT to Prince as some have suggested.

2. Whitney Houston's "Love Will Save The Day" was NOT written by Prince, NOR was it written by producer Jellybean, it was written by songwriter Toni C.

3. Why can't anyone seem to accept the fact that Madonna has a considerable role in writing & producing her own music? YES, there are co-writers & co-producers -- but each & every one of them speaks very openly about how much she actually contributes. (and yes, they even continue to speak highly of her even long after she's "discarded" them & moved on to other collaborators.)

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Reply #43 posted 07/27/06 7:56am

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Which reminds me, why isn`t Prince given a songwriting credit for "hung up" when lyrics from "love song" are used in "hung up"?
This has bothered me ever since "hung up" was released! mad


Because the lyrics to "Love Song" were Madonna's. They were in place before she shared the track with Prince.
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Reply #44 posted 07/27/06 7:57am

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Justin1972UK said:

JediMaster said:



Ahhh, so that is where it made an appearance? That explains why I never could find the sucker!


Oops it's not called 'Radio Version' - it's just called '7" Version'...



Click on the picture for a bigger view.


Thanks for the info!!! A mystery solved!
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Reply #45 posted 07/29/06 5:10am

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JediMaster said:

Justin1972UK said:



Oops it's not called 'Radio Version' - it's just called '7" Version'...



Click on the picture for a bigger view.


Thanks for the info!!! A mystery solved!


I have this and went looking for it... After about ten minutes of searching, I realised that my sister "borrowed" it a few years ago and never gave it me back. I shall retrieve it and... um... share the joy.
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Reply #46 posted 07/29/06 10:35am

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DavidEye said:

the article I mentioned is in Song Talk magazine,Vol.2,issue #11 (summer 1989):

SONG TALK: "Act of Contrition",the closing track on 'Like A Prayer',has backwards masking and other mysterious elements.Did Prince have anything to do with that one? The credits only say "Produced by the powers that be".

Madonna: "Yeah,he did.He played guitar on it.He also played guitar on "Keep It Together".

Yeah, "Act of Contrition" is some evil sounding shit! Anyone who can't tell P is ALL OVER that track on guitar and the production truly doesn't know what Prince sounds like.


nod first time I heard the 12" to Like a Prayer on the radio, I was like: "Dang, P killed that!" omg
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Reply #47 posted 08/02/06 1:01pm

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Justin1972UK said:

JediMaster said:



Thanks for the info!!! A mystery solved!


I have this and went looking for it... After about ten minutes of searching, I realised that my sister "borrowed" it a few years ago and never gave it me back. I shall retrieve it and... um... share the joy.


thumbs up!
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Reply #48 posted 08/02/06 1:17pm

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Well, I just pulled out the re-issue of Madonna and checked the credits. It indeed says: "All songs Written by Madonna, except 'Borderline' and 'Physical
Attraction' written by Reggie Lucas, and 'Holiday' written by Curtis Hudson
and Lisa Stevens".



I just pulled out my cd and I see the same thing you do.
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