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Thread started 07/30/02 12:27pm

MusicAngel

Why I'm Leaving Prince and Why I'm Leaving the Org.

Yes it's true. I've finally made my decision, based on some discoveries I've made in recent weeks. Prince's music used to be a source of inspiration to me, innovative and uplifting. Now I find it neither innovative, inspiring, nor uplifting. I actually find it frightening. I do not agree with Prince's new found beliefs, in fact because of some of the things I've learned, they even worry me.

First some background:
When I was a teenager I began to dabble in the occult (as many teens do). My friends and I would play ESP games, testing each others ability at telepathy and clairvoyance. We would get books from the library on how to develop your ESP powers, and I even got some books that dealt with witchcraft and satanism. While reading these books I got a terrible feeling, hearing a voice inside me, (not my own) telling me "Don't read these books" "Leave it alone" "You don't know what you're doing" "It's wrong" I wondered if the voice I was hearing could be my guardian angel, or maybe even God himself (what I later learned is sometimes refered to as the "still, small voice of God") Needless to say, I stopped reading those books!

Now, fast forward to the late 80's:
I had just gotten married and embarked on a spiritual search. I became fascinated by different religions, intrigued by what people believe and why they believe it, and coming to terms with my own personal beliefs. I read numerous books on the subject including a few about the dangers of the occult. One titled The Beautiful Side Of Evil by Johanna Michaelsen, who had psychic abilities and had worked with a psychic surgeon in Mexico performing "miraculous healings" only to discover that not all "miracles" come from God. And another book called The Hidden Dangers Of The Rainbow by Constance Cumbey, which is about the "New Age Movement" infiltrating all of society including religious organizations like Christians, Jews and Orthodox Muslems. They use the rainbow as their symbol. In the Bible, the Rainbow is the symbol of God's covenant with man that He would never again destroy the earth by flood. New Agers use the rainbow to signify their building of the Rainbow Bridge (antahkarana) between man and Lucifer. Very interesting reading, though I admit some of it sounded a little far-fetched.

And now to recent years:
When I heard in the late 90's that Prince was studying with Jehovah Witnesses, it bothered me. I admit I didn't know much about JW's but what I did know, I didn't like, (they had been considered a cult, they had their own version of the Bible which biblical scholars considered grossly inaccurate) But I figured, OK he's on a spiritual search, just like I had been, let's just wait and see what happens. I then started to learn more about Jehovah Witnesses and the more I learned, the more I didn't like and didn't agree with.
Then comes The Rainbow Children, first I was surprised by the title. With Prince's new found "religious" beliefs, did he not know anything about the negative connotations now associated with the rainbow? Listening to the CD, I was shocked. Besides the few lines that are blatantly JW, there was so much else that seemed so distorted, so wrong. My husband then walked in and listened to some of it and read some of the lyrics. He was also shocked but made a joke the way he always does, telling me, "Like I said, Prince is one fudged-up little cracker!"
I have not been able to listen TRC all the way through since then. I tried once, getting that terrible feeling again halfway through and hearing that voice again "Don't listen to it" "Put it away" "Leave it alone" "It's not right"(My guardian angel? The still, small voice of God?)
There was still something that kept gnawing at me, nagging me, so I pulled out The Hidden Dangers Of The Ranbow and began reading it again and made some interesting comparisons. Besides the use of the rainbow as a symbol, the New Age Movement uses many terms to convince people that their beliefs are biblical. The will use the term "The Christ" which is not in reference to Jesus Christ but actually refers to the antichrist, (Prince changed his song "The Cross" to "The Christ"???!!!) New Agers say that Jesus was man and Christ was God and that Jesus earned his "Christship" (JW's believe that Jesus was the Son of God and God's first creation, but not God, both deny the deity of Jesus) New Agers are trying to bring "religions" to one common belief that we all have God with in us in a sence that we are all "God". They call it At-One-Ment, a distortion of the word atonement. Prince has preached at concerts that we all need to come together "as one" with one common belief, all believing in the same thing. New Agers use certain catch phrases to refer to this "coming together as one", phrases such as New World Order and New World Religion (New World Translation??)
Then I saw the thread, here on the org, about the Akashic Records and its basis in the occult. That convinced me it's time to leave.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Prince is evil or that JW's are evil or that The Watchtower Society is part of the occult. I think that they truly believe that they are on the right track. I'm simply saying that in MY OPINION, maybe, just maybe, JW's (and Prince) are actually caught up in what they fear the most. JW's believe that the world, including governments and other religions are under Satan's control. Isn't it possible that their organization is just as much under Satan's influence? Charles Taze Russell began his Bible study, that later became the Jehovah Witnesses in the mid 1870's, right around the same time the New Age Movement received it's start with the founding of the Theosophical Society by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. Isn't is possible similar influences were floating about?

And now to the org. There has been way too much negativity here lately, a lot of hate, anger and insults being thrown around. It used to be a fun place, it's not anymore. So I'm leaving.

I must say again however, that all this is just MY OPINION, my own perceptions, conclusions that I came to on my own, through my reading, my experiences, and what my heart and soul is telling me. Take it for what it is, and flame me if you want, but I can no longer come to a website that puts on a pedestal a man who's path I feel is so wrong. His old music is still an inspiration to me, but I want nothing to do with his new.

I am now going to delete my account.

Goodbye All! angel
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Reply #1 posted 07/30/02 12:30pm

Wolf

Well hurry the hell up and get going! Nobody needs to know your drama, just LEAVE!
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Reply #2 posted 07/30/02 12:33pm

rio

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..take care...
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Reply #3 posted 07/30/02 12:39pm

AzureStar

Then I saw the thread, here on the org, about the Akashic Records and its basis in the occult


Huh? On the occult? Where's this thread?
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Reply #4 posted 07/30/02 12:41pm

ladymisskat

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Well each to their own
The Hottest chip of them all - www.hotchip.co.uk - Get down with Prince
www.wirelesstheatrecompany.co.uk
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Reply #5 posted 07/30/02 12:41pm

jnoel

rolleyes
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Reply #6 posted 07/30/02 12:43pm

katt

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[This message was edited Thu Oct 10 8:49:46 PDT 2002 by katt]
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Reply #7 posted 07/30/02 12:44pm

Wolf

And since your favorite other artist listed is Cher, and one of your favorite Prince albums is Grafitti Bridge, well then it's no loss.lol
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Reply #8 posted 07/30/02 12:49pm

Supernova

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headache

wave


Drama, drama, drama...
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #9 posted 07/30/02 12:54pm

billysparxxx

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Don't let the door hitcha in da ass on the way out! ...and take this Sand Dollar!!
Life my azz muthafucka, dis is a bitness!!

I love Gravy, I love Titties. I love Gravy Dipped Titties.
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Reply #10 posted 07/30/02 12:55pm

jnoel

Cruel Wolf hehe

Wolf said:

And since your favorite other artist listed is Cher, and one of your favorite Prince albums is Grafitti Bridge, well then it's no loss.lol
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Reply #11 posted 07/30/02 12:57pm

POOK

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WELL YOU NOT READY THIS ANYWAY

BECAUSE YOU GONE RIGHT

SO

BLAH BLOO BLAH

EEK EEK EEK!

OK SERIOUSLY THO

YOU THINK RAINBOW CHILDREN SPOOKY

LISTEN TO 7 AGAIN WITH RELIGION IN MIND

THAT SPOOKY

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #12 posted 07/30/02 1:03pm

slm4m

OKay, everyone... walk away slowly, don't make any sudden moves...
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Reply #13 posted 07/30/02 1:08pm

AnotherLoverHo
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I think perhaps you see/hear meanings that were never intended. You seem easily swayed, and your story reminds me of conspiracy theorists, actually. I recommend that you read several differing viewpoints of the same issue and then make an informed, educated decision--not just jump on the latest bandwagon.

You give "evil" and negativity way too much power with your beliefs... sad
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Reply #14 posted 07/30/02 1:17pm

sag10

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Goodbye MusicAngel and the best of life to you!
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Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect, it means you've decided to look beyond the imperfections... unknown
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Reply #15 posted 07/30/02 1:21pm

madartista

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The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow is the work of right wing fundamentalist conspiracy theorists who can't see past the blinders they put on themselves, and hope to put on you!

Peace & good luck.
let me come over it's a beautiful day to play with you in the dark
http://elmadartista.tumblr.com/
http://twitter.com/madartista
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Reply #16 posted 07/30/02 1:31pm

violett

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well gyrl

PEACE OUT.
heart
vi star
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Reply #17 posted 07/30/02 2:41pm

GoldiesParade

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See ya, wouldnt wanna be ya.
http://www.goldiesparade.co.uk/ - Prince discography, tour history, news and more.
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Reply #18 posted 07/30/02 2:44pm

IrishEcho

Good choice!
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Reply #19 posted 07/30/02 2:44pm

herbthe4

Here's the door...

Here's your ass...

Christ, why does everyone write a freaking retirement speech?
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Reply #20 posted 07/30/02 2:45pm

uglybrowneyes

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Couldn't you have been just a little less wordy with your goodbyes?
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Reply #21 posted 07/30/02 4:28pm

TheBluePrince

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I respect that, I wish you saw things differently, but goodbye, wish you the best. Sorry to hear you're leaving.

Blue
Dont play me
Blue music
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Reply #22 posted 07/30/02 4:33pm

LatinaAngel4u

Bye ! wave
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Reply #23 posted 07/30/02 4:42pm

vgallo6

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Oh brother...people take Prince too seriously...i don't agree with the JW stuff but the music is so funky! Im a fan till the end!
Peace and Love!
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Reply #24 posted 07/30/02 4:47pm

DaddyMan

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OK... Goodbye... Take care... We'll talk to you again after you open a new account in a different name.







They all SAY goodbye...but they never TRUELY leave. cool
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Reply #25 posted 07/30/02 4:48pm

camilleblue

Some people take Prince's music way 2 seriously. That's why u need 2 go 2:
http://www.ifilm.com/ifil...9,,00.html
2 C "THE FUTURE"...
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Reply #26 posted 07/30/02 4:59pm

rdhull

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Not saying JW is all hunky dory but she has voices telling her not to listen to TRC but they were all quiet when he sang about fucking his sister and that one chick masturbating in a hotel lobby etc? Go figure...
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #27 posted 07/30/02 4:59pm

Ifsixwuz9

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Oh for pete's sake why don't people just delete the damn account and go. Why is an announcement necessary?
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I'll play it first and tell you what it is later.
-Miles Davis-
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Reply #28 posted 07/30/02 5:03pm

mrchristian

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By the way the voices in my head are saying "you're fucking nuts, eat, great ass(chick who just walked by my office door), and buy those damn 'Rent' tickets before they're sold out..."
--that's about it.

You could've made some valid points, but you back them up with books none of us know and suspect they're written by a couple of nutcases like yourself.

My favorite line of yours is "When I was a teenager I began to dabble in the occult (as many teens do)"
--that had me rolling on the floor. nuts
[This message was edited Tue Jul 30 17:06:02 PDT 2002 by mrchristian]
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Reply #29 posted 07/30/02 5:04pm

bkw

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This, my friends, is some funny shit!
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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