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Thread started 06/14/06 1:03pm

bellanoche

The Mayte Years...Hated them!

My sister and I just watched The Beautiful Experience and it really typified the Mayte years to us. Prince just didn't seem to be himself - well I guess he was the symbol then. Those were probably the worst years for me as a Prince fan. He seemed obsessed with Mayte and being young and hip for her. He seemed so caught up in selling the idea of this fairy tale romance that his music took a backseat. He didn't really seem to enjoy playing and his performances seemed so mechanical with little of his trademark audience teasing/playful interaction. The deeper he got into that relationship, the darker he seemed. I think the fight with Warner also played a part. I am sorry that things turned out the way they did for him and Mayte with regard to the baby, but it really seems that it was for the better.

Whatever the case, those were some sorry times for this Prince fan. What do you all think about the Mayte years? I define "the Mayte years" as the time following Come and up to "Rave." Rave I consider the Mayte fallout.
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Reply #1 posted 06/14/06 1:09pm

luv4all7

bellanoche said:

My sister and I just watched The Beautiful Experience and it really typified the Mayte years to us. Prince just didn't seem to be himself - well I guess he was the symbol then. Those were probably the worst years for me as a Prince fan. He seemed obsessed with Mayte and being young and hip for her. He seemed so caught up in selling the idea of this fairy tale romance that his music took a backseat. He didn't really seem to enjoy playing and his performances seemed so mechanical with little of his trademark audience teasing/playful interaction. The deeper he got into that relationship, the darker he seemed. I think the fight with Warner also played a part. I am sorry that things turned out the way they did for him and Mayte with regard to the baby, but it really seems that it was for the better.

Whatever the case, those were some sorry times for this Prince fan. What do you all think about the Mayte years? I define "the Mayte years" as the time following Come and up to "Rave." Rave I consider the Mayte fallout.


I am insanely jealous of Mayte, but I don't hate the Mayte years. He was in love!
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Reply #2 posted 06/14/06 1:13pm

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There is a time in our own lives that we sometimes
look back and say: "IF I COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME.



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Reply #3 posted 06/14/06 1:29pm

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bellanoche said:

My sister and I just watched The Beautiful Experience and it really typified the Mayte years to us. Prince just didn't seem to be himself - well I guess he was the symbol then. Those were probably the worst years for me as a Prince fan. He seemed obsessed with Mayte and being young and hip for her. He seemed so caught up in selling the idea of this fairy tale romance that his music took a backseat. He didn't really seem to enjoy playing and his performances seemed so mechanical with little of his trademark audience teasing/playful interaction. The deeper he got into that relationship, the darker he seemed. I think the fight with Warner also played a part. I am sorry that things turned out the way they did for him and Mayte with regard to the baby, but it really seems that it was for the better.

Whatever the case, those were some sorry times for this Prince fan. What do you all think about the Mayte years? I define "the Mayte years" as the time following Come and up to "Rave." Rave I consider the Mayte fallout.



Hindsight is ALWAYS 20/20. I dug those years at the time they were happening.
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Reply #4 posted 06/14/06 1:30pm

DiamondGirl

bellanoche said:

Whatever the case, those were some sorry times for this Prince fan. What do you all think about the Mayte years? I define "the Mayte years" as the time following Come and up to "Rave." Rave I consider the Mayte fallout.



I dislike the Mayte years as well.
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Reply #5 posted 06/14/06 1:35pm

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Actually I think up untill he married Mayte were the dark years. He seemed very depressed back then. When he married Mayte he seemed to start looking better and acting more at peace. But between 1992-1996 he seemed very defensive and attacked. I once read in Ebony magazine that Mayte was the only person who showed him "no malice" at the time, according to him. It seemed like she was there for him when he most needed it.
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Reply #6 posted 06/14/06 1:37pm

sallysassalot

when we were actually in the mayte years i didn't mind them. now, looking back, i think there was a lot of lame stuff going on. emancipation should have been one disc, newpowersoul was a nightmare, crystal ball was a let down, the tours were totally uninspired, and his whole image thing (tora tora, symbol, etc) was at an all time low.

i'm glad he got it out of his system but i feel like he's been trying to play catch up ever since.
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Reply #7 posted 06/14/06 1:39pm

mikek1

he was in love for fuck's sake and Mayte is awesome!

Before that he was OBSESSED with making music and never gave 100% to relationships.Alot of great material was recorded during that period; don't forget TGE!

Being so compelled to only live for music is destructive and i'm glad Prince actually showed love and care for a women(even though it's speculated he cheated).
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Reply #8 posted 06/14/06 1:44pm

DiamondGirl

Even the NPG complained about Mayte. On that one release program Ryde Divyne I think. The fellas are walking talking about how the album has now been Mayte themed (refering to Symbol album etc).."Now its about her!"-Bland
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Reply #9 posted 06/14/06 1:58pm

Fhunkin

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You can blame her, but have you ever thought of what might had happened to Prince if there had not be Mayte ?
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Reply #10 posted 06/14/06 2:23pm

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well i didnt like those years for other reasons that i think mayte to her credit probably lessened the negative effect of rather than heightened, but nevertheless...i didnt particularly care for her either. not to trivialize her and prince's love but to me as a fan it sort of felt like when a 7-year-old gets a brand new computer game and all he does for weeks is play the computer game or talk about playing the computer game. it gets tiresome, even if they are happy. she also seemed like a pretty boring person, and it seemed like she was just the latest in the line of easily-manipulated, naive, not particularly intelligent (sorry) prince girlfriends, but because she had come along at a time where prince was feeling especially vulnerable she was held onto with more commitment than the previous ones.

nevertheless, mayte & p in the videos for 7, race and the one are adorable
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Reply #11 posted 06/14/06 2:28pm

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I MISS the Mayte years... well, at least her ass shaking on stage! THAT I do miss!!
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Reply #12 posted 06/14/06 2:56pm

ufoclub

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DiamondGirl said:

Even the NPG complained about Mayte. On that one release program Ryde Divyne I think. The fellas are walking talking about how the album has now been Mayte themed (refering to Symbol album etc).."Now its about her!"-Bland


that's scripted! razz
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Reply #13 posted 06/14/06 3:02pm

NouveauDance

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bellanoche said:

My sister and I just watched The Beautiful Experience and it really typified the Mayte years to us. Prince just didn't seem to be himself - well I guess he was the symbol then. Those were probably the worst years for me as a Prince fan. He seemed obsessed with Mayte and being young and hip for her. He seemed so caught up in selling the idea of this fairy tale romance that his music took a backseat. He didn't really seem to enjoy playing and his performances seemed so mechanical with little of his trademark audience teasing/playful interaction.


A lot of people would disagree with you, in a polar sense.
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Reply #14 posted 06/14/06 3:04pm

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I sense that he was very distant during the 'Mayte years'. I don't know whether he was faking it or if something had really changed. I get the feeling that he only kept her around because she 'showed him no malice', as in she was a naïve teenager who would agree with everything he said because she had no experience. I know Vanity or Sheila or Apollonia would never put up with the crap he tried to pull with the name change and everything. I'm glad they are over, but I can't imagine things going any differently back then.
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Reply #15 posted 06/14/06 3:14pm

DiamondGirl

ufoclub said:

DiamondGirl said:

Even the NPG complained about Mayte. On that one release program Ryde Divyne I think. The fellas are walking talking about how the album has now been Mayte themed (refering to Symbol album etc).."Now its about her!"-Bland


that's scripted! razz


I figured as much but it came from some true grumblings Im sure like they did in Purple Rain (let us do our music)
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Reply #16 posted 06/14/06 3:25pm

Moonbeam

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I loved them.
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Reply #17 posted 06/14/06 3:29pm

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How can you hate the era that inspired the masterpiece known as "The Gold Experience"???
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Reply #18 posted 06/14/06 3:30pm

DiamondGirl

Militant said:

How can you hate the era that inspired the masterpiece known as "The Gold Experience"???



following Batman, Graf Bridge, Diamonds n Pearls and Symbol, of course TGE is going to be heralded.
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Reply #19 posted 06/14/06 3:32pm

luv4all7

Put a sock in it Joffy, the boyz in love!
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Reply #20 posted 06/14/06 3:33pm

DiamondGirl

luv4all7 said:

Put a sock in it Joffy, the boyz in love!


Coming To America lol
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Reply #21 posted 06/14/06 3:37pm

luv4all7

DiamondGirl said:

luv4all7 said:

Put a sock in it Joffy, the boyz in love!


Coming To America lol


Oh good, I was afraid nobody would know!
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Reply #22 posted 06/14/06 3:41pm

bellanoche

sallysassalot said:

when we were actually in the mayte years i didn't mind them. now, looking back, i think there was a lot of lame stuff going on. emancipation should have been one disc, newpowersoul was a nightmare, crystal ball was a let down, the tours were totally uninspired, and his whole image thing (tora tora, symbol, etc) was at an all time low.

i'm glad he got it out of his system but i feel like he's been trying to play catch up ever since.


I know. I think it has taken him time through the NPG release to try to find his way back to who he is. I am a bit biased because I NEVER like Mayte. She always came off as a phony trying to come up. But whatever the case, he was into her in an unhealthy way as I think that whole relationship was unhealthy in many aspects and it manifested itself in his music. You are correct, the tours were uninspired. Emancipation SHOULD definitely have been one disc of solid music, two-thirds of it were better left in the "vault." His image was a mess then. He got paler and paler - lifeless looking. The big puffy jacket with the symbol on it and the pants with the faux symbol underwear showing were screaming "I'm hip like the hip hop dudes who are closer to Mayte's age." And his hair looked awful. The whole Egyptian princess farce, the infamous interview where he spoke through Mayte and some of that other stuff was just ridiculous. He truly lost his way then. In my opinion those were the WTF years.
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Reply #23 posted 06/14/06 4:03pm

DiamondGirl

bellanoche said:

sallysassalot said:

when we were actually in the mayte years i didn't mind them. now, looking back, i think there was a lot of lame stuff going on. emancipation should have been one disc, newpowersoul was a nightmare, crystal ball was a let down, the tours were totally uninspired, and his whole image thing (tora tora, symbol, etc) was at an all time low.

i'm glad he got it out of his system but i feel like he's been trying to play catch up ever since.


I know. I think it has taken him time through the NPG release to try to find his way back to who he is. I am a bit biased because I NEVER like Mayte. She always came off as a phony trying to come up. But whatever the case, he was into her in an unhealthy way as I think that whole relationship was unhealthy in many aspects and it manifested itself in his music. You are correct, the tours were uninspired. Emancipation SHOULD definitely have been one disc of solid music, two-thirds of it were better left in the "vault." His image was a mess then. He got paler and paler - lifeless looking. The big puffy jacket with the symbol on it and the pants with the faux symbol underwear showing were screaming "I'm hip like the hip hop dudes who are closer to Mayte's age." And his hair looked awful. The whole Egyptian princess farce, the infamous interview where he spoke through Mayte and some of that other stuff was just ridiculous. He truly lost his way then. In my opinion those were the WTF years.



Agreed.
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Reply #24 posted 06/14/06 4:06pm

Ifsixwuz9

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bellanoche said:

My sister and I just watched The Beautiful Experience and it really typified the Mayte years to us. Prince just didn't seem to be himself - well I guess he was the symbol then. Those were probably the worst years for me as a Prince fan. He seemed obsessed with Mayte and being young and hip for her. He seemed so caught up in selling the idea of this fairy tale romance that his music took a backseat. He didn't really seem to enjoy playing and his performances seemed so mechanical with little of his trademark audience teasing/playful interaction. The deeper he got into that relationship, the darker he seemed. I think the fight with Warner also played a part. I am sorry that things turned out the way they did for him and Mayte with regard to the baby, but it really seems that it was for the better.

Whatever the case, those were some sorry times for this Prince fan. What do you all think about the Mayte years? I define "the Mayte years" as the time following Come and up to "Rave." Rave I consider the Mayte fallout.


I think it had more to do with his fight with WB, and Mayte just happened to be around at that time. She was a welcomed distraction for him from the WB bullshit that was going on. I don't know he was anymore in love with her than anybody else he kept around for more than a nano second. She just happed to ride out the storm to get what she wanted from the relationship. Whereas the others were like, enough .... time to move on.
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Reply #25 posted 06/14/06 4:18pm

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luv4all7 said:

DiamondGirl said:



Coming To America lol


Oh good, I was afraid nobody would know!
highfive


Good one, I knew I had heard that before...

Coming to America (CLASSIC!!!!)
Walking alone in the dark, I see nothing u see
I can be in a park, or flying in the…in the deep sea
I wish u’d hold my hand; then everything could b
There’s nothing strange, we’re not deranged
We only want everyday 2 b a Cosmic Day
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Reply #26 posted 06/14/06 4:27pm

jone70

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Fhunkin said:

You can blame her, but have you ever thought of what might had happened to Prince if there had not be Mayte ?


hmmm
Well for one thing there probably wouldn't have been three discs of steaming hot doody also know as Emancipation. I could live without that. razz
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #27 posted 06/14/06 4:31pm

luv4all7

jone70 said:

Fhunkin said:

You can blame her, but have you ever thought of what might had happened to Prince if there had not be Mayte ?


hmmm
Well for one thing there probably wouldn't have been three discs of steaming hot doody also know as Emancipation. I could live without that. razz


Well I 4 1 can not live without
Friend Lover Sister Mother Wife
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Reply #28 posted 06/14/06 4:33pm

jone70

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luv4all7 said:

jone70 said:



hmmm
Well for one thing there probably wouldn't have been three discs of steaming hot doody also know as Emancipation. I could live without that. razz


Well I 4 1 can not live without
Friend Lover Sister Mother Wife


barf I can. That song sucks major Mayte-inspired ass. All three discs of Emancipation suck. (I don't like sappy, love ballads.) But to each his own. shrug
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #29 posted 06/14/06 4:35pm

PurpleCharm

jone70 said:

Fhunkin said:

You can blame her, but have you ever thought of what might had happened to Prince if there had not be Mayte ?


hmmm
Well for one thing there probably wouldn't have been three discs of steaming hot doody also know as Emancipation. I could live without that. razz

lol
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