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Thread started 06/14/06 7:10am

FunkJam

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Crucial

Ok so i am listening to Crucial as i type this, and i don't understand why it was left off Sign O The Times. It's much stronger than Adore, which i believe replaced it. It would have fit much better as an end to the record i think!
Your thoughs...
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Reply #1 posted 06/14/06 7:14am

ufoclub

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I get more emotion out of listening to ADORE! Crucial is more normal pop.
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Reply #2 posted 06/14/06 7:21am

luv4all7

Crucial is beautiful. It should have been there WITH Adore, not instead if it.

I'm sure my neighbors think I'm loony when I play this song, I blast it and screech all the way through..... music
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Reply #3 posted 06/14/06 7:22am

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Crucial and Adore are two completely different listening experiences for me. I love them both. But they create two entirely different moods.

I have to say, though, that the ending of Crucial makes me all tingly. I love that guitar solo. Isn't there a longer version somewhere?... That doesn't fade out?
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Reply #4 posted 06/14/06 7:54am

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GiggityGoo said:

Crucial and Adore are two completely different listening experiences for me. I love them both. But they create two entirely different moods.

I have to say, though, that the ending of Crucial makes me all tingly. I love that guitar solo. Isn't there a longer version somewhere?... That doesn't fade out?



Yes, on the Crucial disc. Dueling guitar solos. Then there's the version featuring Eric Leeds... woot!
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Reply #5 posted 06/14/06 8:10am

luv4all7

Crucial reminds me of a 50's song or something.
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Reply #6 posted 06/14/06 8:27am

INSATIABLE

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ThreadBare said:

GiggityGoo said:

Crucial and Adore are two completely different listening experiences for me. I love them both. But they create two entirely different moods.

I have to say, though, that the ending of Crucial makes me all tingly. I love that guitar solo. Isn't there a longer version somewhere?... That doesn't fade out?



Yes, on the Crucial disc. Dueling guitar solos. Then there's the version featuring Eric Leeds... woot!

I need those. Both of those.
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Reply #7 posted 06/14/06 8:29am

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INSATIABLE said:

ThreadBare said:




Yes, on the Crucial disc. Dueling guitar solos. Then there's the version featuring Eric Leeds... woot!

I need those. Both of those.

You have them. confused
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Reply #8 posted 06/14/06 8:30am

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If I remember correctly there's also a version featuring Miles Davis... hmmm
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Reply #9 posted 06/14/06 8:32am

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GiggityGoo said:

Crucial and Adore are two completely different listening experiences for me. I love them both. But they create two entirely different moods.

I have to say, though, that the ending of Crucial makes me all tingly. I love that guitar solo. Isn't there a longer version somewhere?... That doesn't fade out?


I agree. I hate comparing the two, because I love them each on their own terms and wouldn't want to give up either. And yeah, the ending of "Crucial" is pretty sweep-you-off-your-feet.
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Reply #10 posted 06/14/06 8:33am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

If I remember correctly there's also a version featuring Miles Davis... hmmm


Uh-uh. Back when it was strictly a bootleg, there were folks who speculated that Miles was playing on it, but that turned out to be false.
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Reply #11 posted 06/14/06 8:34am

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FunkMistress said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:

If I remember correctly there's also a version featuring Miles Davis... hmmm


Uh-uh. Back when it was strictly a bootleg, there were folks who speculated that Miles was playing on it, but that turned out to be false.

Ah ok, thanks for correcting me on that one Mistress wink
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Reply #12 posted 06/14/06 8:37am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

FunkMistress said:



Uh-uh. Back when it was strictly a bootleg, there were folks who speculated that Miles was playing on it, but that turned out to be false.

Ah ok, thanks for correcting me on that one Mistress wink


whip No problem. I think there are actually boots out there with liner notes that claim this as fact, so it's a common misconception.
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Reply #13 posted 06/14/06 8:42am

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FunkMistress said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


Ah ok, thanks for correcting me on that one Mistress wink


whip No problem. I think there are actually boots out there with liner notes that claim this as fact, so it's a common misconception.

You sho like to whip dontcha? wink
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Reply #14 posted 06/14/06 8:43am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

FunkMistress said:



whip No problem. I think there are actually boots out there with liner notes that claim this as fact, so it's a common misconception.

You sho like to whip dontcha? wink


Well, check the avatar. The Mistress does like to keep things in order around here.
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Reply #15 posted 06/14/06 8:46am

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FunkMistress said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


You sho like to whip dontcha? wink


Well, check the avatar. The Mistress does like to keep things in order around here.

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Reply #16 posted 06/14/06 1:14pm

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ThreadBare said:

GiggityGoo said:

Crucial and Adore are two completely different listening experiences for me. I love them both. But they create two entirely different moods.

I have to say, though, that the ending of Crucial makes me all tingly. I love that guitar solo. Isn't there a longer version somewhere?... That doesn't fade out?



Yes, on the Crucial disc. Dueling guitar solos. Then there's the version featuring Eric Leeds... woot!


How long is that version?
Walking alone in the dark, I see nothing u see
I can be in a park, or flying in the…in the deep sea
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Reply #17 posted 06/14/06 1:28pm

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1nonly said:

ThreadBare said:




Yes, on the Crucial disc. Dueling guitar solos. Then there's the version featuring Eric Leeds... woot!


How long is that version?



I think they're about equal.
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Reply #18 posted 06/14/06 1:31pm

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ThreadBare said:

1nonly said:



How long is that version?



I think they're about equal.



The one I have is 7:23, is that about right?
Walking alone in the dark, I see nothing u see
I can be in a park, or flying in the…in the deep sea
I wish u’d hold my hand; then everything could b
There’s nothing strange, we’re not deranged
We only want everyday 2 b a Cosmic Day
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Reply #19 posted 06/14/06 1:32pm

DiamondGirl

FunkJam said:

Ok so i am listening to Crucial as i type this, and i don't understand why it was left off Sign O The Times. It's much stronger than Adore, which i believe replaced it. It would have fit much better as an end to the record i think!
Your thoughs...


That you dont know what you are talking about if you think it should be in place of Adore.
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Reply #20 posted 06/15/06 6:08am

FunkJam

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DiamondGirl said:

FunkJam said:

Ok so i am listening to Crucial as i type this, and i don't understand why it was left off Sign O The Times. It's much stronger than Adore, which i believe replaced it. It would have fit much better as an end to the record i think!
Your thoughs...


That you dont know what you are talking about if you think it should be in place of Adore.


I never said it should replace adore totally, it should just be moved to about half way through the record. The song i would totally erase is If I Was You Girlfriend!
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Reply #21 posted 06/15/06 6:54am

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FunkJam said:

Ok so i am listening to Crucial as i type this, and i don't understand why it was left off Sign O The Times. It's much stronger than Adore, which i believe replaced it. It would have fit much better as an end to the record i think!
Your thoughs...


Yes. "Crucial" is more sweeping and more of a power ballad than "Adore." I'd take "Crucial" over "Adore." Hell, I'll take "Pink Cashmere" over "Adore."
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Reply #22 posted 06/15/06 6:57am

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FunkJam said:

Ok so i am listening to Crucial as i type this, and i don't understand why it was left off Sign O The Times. It's much stronger than Adore, which i believe replaced it. It would have fit much better as an end to the record i think!
Your thoughs...


Yes. "Crucial" is more sweeping and more of a power ballad than "Adore." I'd take "Crucial" over "Adore." Hell, I'll take "Pink Cashmere" over "Adore."



Pink Cashmere and Crucial, are da best!
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Reply #23 posted 06/15/06 9:34am

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Adore is the GREATEST SONG of ALL TIMESSSSS!!!!

End of discussion.

Crucial is a wonderful song, and I enjoy it throughly, especially the guitar version... but one thing I never quite wanted to understand is...

Why does Prince say...

"... prisoner in love with the opposite gender.
I ain't sayin' you're better baby, I ain't sayin' you're not.
I ain't sayin' anything until you stop."

Is he IMPLYING that making love to a man "is good, but not necessarily better than making love to a woman"???

Hmmmmm...

I always wondered about that line. confused
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Reply #24 posted 06/15/06 10:01am

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MantuaPharoah said:

Adore is the GREATEST SONG of ALL TIMESSSSS!!!!

End of discussion.

Crucial is a wonderful song, and I enjoy it throughly, especially the guitar version... but one thing I never quite wanted to understand is...

Why does Prince say...

"... prisoner in love with the opposite gender.
I ain't sayin' you're better baby, I ain't sayin' you're not.
I ain't sayin' anything until you stop."

Is he IMPLYING that making love to a man "is good, but not necessarily better than making love to a woman"???

Hmmmmm...

I always wondered about that line. confused



I really used to wonder about that line because I misheard the lyrics on the crappy boot I had of it.
I thought it said "because I'm not in love with the opposite gender."
But then again I also thought that the line "Is that Old Man River knocking at your door" was "Here's that lonely nigga knockin at your door." so go figure.
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Reply #25 posted 06/15/06 11:32am

FunkMistress

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FunkJam said:

DiamondGirl said:



That you dont know what you are talking about if you think it should be in place of Adore.


I never said it should replace adore totally, it should just be moved to about half way through the record. The song i would totally erase is If I Was You Girlfriend!


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Reply #26 posted 06/16/06 12:51am

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FunkMistress said:

FunkJam said:



I never said it should replace adore totally, it should just be moved to about half way through the record. The song i would totally erase is If I Was You Girlfriend!


whofarted

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Reply #27 posted 06/16/06 2:28am

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GiggityGoo said:

Crucial and Adore are two completely different listening experiences for me. I love them both. But they create two entirely different moods.

I have to say, though, that the ending of Crucial makes me all tingly. I love that guitar solo. Isn't there a longer version somewhere?... That doesn't fade out?



Yes, on the Crucial disc. Dueling guitar solos. Then there's the version featuring Eric Leeds... woot!


The Eric Leeds version is brilliant, it's a great song!
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Reply #28 posted 06/16/06 2:58am

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Adore still wins over all versions of Crucial, as cool as that song is.
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Reply #29 posted 06/16/06 6:08am

Handel

The full length "guitar" version of Crucial kicks the sax version's ass. And it also kicks "Adore"'s ass too. The edited "guitar" version on Crystal Ball was a criminal act by prince
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