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Reply #30 posted 06/01/06 7:22am

Graycap23

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yes but George Michael was the first to let his fans download his music for FREE

awards are just a way of filling up the hole inside us that are created by exoteric vanity - so it seems

and keep in mind that the folks who give out these awards arent aware of the many many other artists in the world that were doing it long before him wink



What's George's site?
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Reply #31 posted 06/01/06 7:52am

1nitealone

5 word speech will go something like this
thank U very much peace!
U gonna have 2 fight ure own damn war cuz we dont wanna fight no more!!
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Reply #32 posted 06/01/06 8:08am

booyah

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"Tamar. Milk. Honey. Come. Soon."

In fact, I think his Brits 1995 award speech was a trial run: "Prince. Best? The Gold Experience. Better. On record. Slave. On stage. Perfectly free. Come. Peace. Be Wild." or something along those lines.
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Reply #33 posted 06/01/06 9:13am

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that would be five more words than he said on american idol. he'll never show up for this.

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Reply #34 posted 06/01/06 9:15am

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Still
Waiting
For
My
Order.....

wink

i wonder how many people there are that still haven't gotten their copy of crystal ball from the club...giggle
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Reply #35 posted 06/01/06 9:19am

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booyah said:

"Tamar. Milk. Honey. Come. Soon."



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Space for sale...
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Reply #36 posted 06/01/06 9:23am

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AsylumUtopia said:

superspaceboy said:

Webby online awards for his use of the Internet to distribute music and connect with audiences.

Um he hasn't done a thing with 3121 on the internet.

And Obviously they don't know about the "lack" of music he has to offer on his site.

Which lack of music would that be?

At last count there were 12 singles, 12 albums and 6 videos available for download at NPGMC. Of those, 11 of the singles and 6 of the albums aren't available anywhere else.

I've yet to find another musician's website that has anywhere near that amount of exclusive material on it.


Hence why I put it as "lack"...meaning The Glam Slam Room and Reflection.

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Reply #37 posted 06/01/06 10:25am

fathermcmeekle

BananaCologne said:

Winners and special-achievement honorees are limited to five-word acceptance speeches.


Anybody care to start the ball rolling on this one and have a little fun? wink

After American Idol, he might not bother with his quota!

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Reply #38 posted 06/01/06 11:37am

BananaCologne

1) Bowie

2) did

3) it

4) B4

5) U


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Reply #39 posted 06/01/06 12:02pm

lyecry

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1nitealone said:

5 word speech will go something like this
thank U very much peace!


No it will go like this:

"three one two one...buy"
Thank You San Alejo for getting rid of my enemies. :-0
Thank You SO much Saint Expedite for your help smile
Thank You Virgin de Guadalupe for helping my friend smile
Thank You Saint Anthony for returning my wallet to me untouched smile
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Reply #40 posted 06/01/06 2:18pm

Teacher

Next he'll get an award from the people busting d/l sites for shutting down the fansites. True visionary right there. rolleyes


Oh and the five words....


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Reply #41 posted 06/01/06 2:46pm

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BananaCologne said:

1) Bowie

2) did

3) it

4) B4

5) U


wink


Wasn't this with Bowienet, his ISP?
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Reply #42 posted 06/01/06 4:50pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

CandaceS said:


falloff ouch!


And it only goes back 36 months...would be more fun if they showed a comprehensive history! wink
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Reply #43 posted 06/01/06 7:58pm

fantasylandmus
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AsylumUtopia said:

superspaceboy said:

Webby online awards for his use of the Internet to distribute music and connect with audiences.

Um he hasn't done a thing with 3121 on the internet.

And Obviously they don't know about the "lack" of music he has to offer on his site.

Which lack of music would that be?

At last count there were 12 singles, 12 albums and 6 videos available for download at NPGMC. Of those, 11 of the singles and 6 of the albums aren't available anywhere else.

I've yet to find another musician's website that has anywhere near that amount of exclusive material on it.


Amen 2 that. I can't seem 2 find any other musician's website that can hold a candle 2 NPGMC. It's probably because they haven't caught up 2 Prince's level yet. Maybe, if Michael Jackson would follow in Prince's footsteps, he'd probably make back at least half the debt he owe let alone have a hit record both financially and recognizably (is that a word?).
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Reply #44 posted 06/01/06 10:25pm

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Rebeljuice said:

Crystal Ball was hardly an internet release. He simply advertised it and took orders online... something that had been going on quite a while in the world of bits and bytes...


The original plan was for it to be sold exclusively over the Internet... of course, what actually happened was somewhat different.

BTW, any "Naysayers" in the house tonight? wink
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Reply #45 posted 06/02/06 5:51am

BartVanHemelen

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sheeplikeone said:

Prince honored as Web 'visionary'
Prince will be honored with a lifetime achievement award at this year's Webby online awards for his use of the Internet to distribute music and connect with audiences.


Bwahahahahaha! Yeah, let's forget about Prince SUING fan websites. That really connected him with his audience.

sheeplikeone said:

The 47-year-old pop superstar was the first major artist to release an entire album, 1997's "Crystal Ball," exclusively on the Web,


EXCLUSIVELY? First of all CB wasn't initially available online, only VIA PHONE ORDERS. Secondly, that album wasn't exclusive at all, considering it was in stores BEFORE it turned up in people's mailboxes.

sheeplikeone said:

according to the announcement, and "long before MySpace and iTunes, Prince used the Web as a new way to distribute music, premiere videos and build his relationship with his fans."


Hilarious. Utterly uninformed.
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Reply #46 posted 06/02/06 5:58am

BartVanHemelen

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fantasylandmusic said:

Amen 2 that. I can't seem 2 find any other musician's website that can hold a candle 2 NPGMC. It's probably because they haven't caught up 2 Prince's level yet.


Dude, get educated. How 'bout Metallica, selling recordings of an ENTIRE TOUR via their site? How 'bout Pearl Jam who've been doing that for years? How 'bout Beck et al who've set up web cams while they were doing rehearsals? How 'bout BobDylan.com, where I can find TONS of info (like LYRICS) -- FOR FREE?

Yeah, there's a whole lot of excellent artist sites out there, and very few of them want $25 just to show you a bunch of lame Flash animations and the "opportunity" to buy a whole lot of drm-protected tracks that you then never listen to again.

I still recall that in year 1 of NPGMC they usually didn't even manage to fill the MINIMUM of what they promised. I also recall that they offered an mp3 of a song taken from a CASSETTE -- an OFFICIALLY released cassette single. I also recall the videos that were ripped from bootlegged tv performances. Etcetera.
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Reply #47 posted 06/02/06 6:21am

MartyMcFly

BartVanHemelen said:

How 'bout Metallica, selling recordings of an ENTIRE TOUR via their site?


Oh yes, Metallica... talk about alienating your fanbase... Metallica vs. Napster Bart? Does your FAULTLESS memory recall that little "issue"? How's that for "bonding" with your fans?

How 'bout Beck et al who've set up web cams while they were doing rehearsals?


I'll bet no one's watching though... that guy is FINISHED, dig?

How 'bout BobDylan.com, where I can find TONS of info (like LYRICS) -- FOR FREE?


And where the extremely busy discussion forum was suddenly closed without any prior notice whatsoever? Nice! thumbs up!

Check your "facts", "dude"... wildsign
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Reply #48 posted 06/02/06 8:11am

sosgemini

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beck is finished?


since when?


lol
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Reply #49 posted 06/02/06 9:15am

CandaceS

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fantasylandmusic said:


Amen 2 that. I can't seem 2 find any other musician's website that can hold a candle 2 NPGMC. It's probably because they haven't caught up 2 Prince's level yet...


www.petergabriel.com

BTW, a couple of years ago he sold soundboard recordings of the shows on his tour, on pressed CDs...something P fans would snap up in a heartbeat if he made them available. nod

Along those lines, check out the store on the Grateful Dead site...tons of legacy concert recordings and "vault" material for sale.
http://gdstore.com/
"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #50 posted 06/02/06 4:09pm

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pkidwell said:

to further prove his genius....his club members have recently gone to his site and paid $312.01 for a ticket that is unavailable elsewhere


- Hehe...very true...
Speaking of the NPGMC, is there any music there? In the beginning, there were the Ahdios, etc....but what about now?
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Reply #51 posted 06/03/06 12:44am

MartyMcFly

sosgemini said:

beck is finished?


since when?


lol


cool
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Reply #52 posted 06/03/06 7:20am

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MartyMcFly said:

BartVanHemelen said:

How 'bout Metallica, selling recordings of an ENTIRE TOUR via their site?


Oh yes, Metallica... talk about alienating your fanbase... Metallica vs. Napster Bart? Does your FAULTLESS memory recall that little "issue"? How's that for "bonding" with your fans?



I'll bet no one's watching though... that guy is FINISHED, dig?

How 'bout BobDylan.com, where I can find TONS of info (like LYRICS) -- FOR FREE?


And where the extremely busy discussion forum was suddenly closed without any prior notice whatsoever? Nice! thumbs up!

Check your "facts", "dude"... wildsign


- But, Marty, in this case I must agree with Bart. No matter if Metallica and Beck are good or not, finished or not, they offer some exclusive and very interesting things to their fans

Prince sued lots of fan websites in the past, but I would still be a member (hard for me, I dont have an international credit card, I would have to pay for it) if he offered me the chance to download his rehearsals and live concerts.

But I wont do this effort only to have a chance to download "SST" (in crappy .wma format) or albums that are released in stores.
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Reply #53 posted 06/13/06 5:27am

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I've just seen a very quick report on BBC News 24 about the Webby's, they mentioned Prince was getting a reward and showed a clip from the ceremony with a presenter in front of footage of Prince (from circa '96 I think...).
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Reply #54 posted 06/13/06 5:49am

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metalorange said:

I've just seen a very quick report on BBC News 24 about the Webby's, they mentioned Prince was getting a reward and showed a clip from the ceremony with a presenter in front of footage of Prince (from circa '96 I think...).



Was on BBC news this morning, footage of prince singing, I assumed it was from the ceremony?
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Reply #55 posted 06/13/06 5:51am

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Prince played Don't Play Me at the ceremony, in case no one noticed yet. Very cool outfit. Apparently crashed his acoustic guitar. Said something along the lines of "everything you believe...is true." - reports vary on that.
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Reply #56 posted 06/13/06 5:57am

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Reply #57 posted 06/21/06 2:08am

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MartyMcFly said:

Oh yes, Metallica... talk about alienating your fanbase... Metallica vs. Napster Bart? Does your FAULTLESS memory recall that little "issue"? How's that for "bonding" with your fans?


Look closely, I wrote TWO post in this thread, one that ripped the press release to shreds, and another one that supplied proof that there are plenty of artist sites that offer far more than NPGMC (and don't want you to pay $25 just to look at it). Everything that you said has ZERO value because it doesn't disprove the point I made.
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Reply #58 posted 06/21/06 2:22am

MartyMcFly

BartVanHemelen said:

MartyMcFly said:

Oh yes, Metallica... talk about alienating your fanbase... Metallica vs. Napster Bart? Does your FAULTLESS memory recall that little "issue"? How's that for "bonding" with your fans?


Look closely, I wrote TWO post in this thread, one that ripped the press release to shreds, and another one that supplied proof that there are plenty of artist sites that offer far more than NPGMC (and don't want you to pay $25 just to look at it). Everything that you said has ZERO value because it doesn't disprove the point I made.


lol
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Reply #59 posted 06/21/06 2:42am

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Seriously, Marty, your points were weak at best. Beck is finished? Huh? Sea Change was an absolutely massive critical success, and Guero was also well received. What kind of silly comment was that? And regardless of Metallica's past battles with Napster, the fact remains that their free site offers a lot of very interesting material for its hardcore fanbase.

Prince's five word acceptance speech should've just been "Music no one wants." That's about all that's available on his site. Nothing tantalizing from the Vault, just garbage like The Slaughterhouse or SST.
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