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Thread started 04/28/06 8:23pm

stagedancer

unknown Prince song

Wondering if y'all can help. My Prince buddy made me a HUGE compilation of Prince songs as a wedding gift. They're not the greatest quality. There is one song that I just heard - it's great - I think it's called "I wonder" (not "I wonder u" but different.) Some of the lyrics, below -

Chorus - "i wonder if she knows how much I love her - I wonder if she knows how much I need her face around - I wonder - I wonder"

It's gotta be a B side from something. Can anyone help? I'm desperate to know how I can get this in better quality. Thanks!
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Reply #1 posted 04/28/06 8:32pm

Doozer

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The song you're hearing is in fact called "I Wonder" -- it was never officially released but has been in circulation for quite some time. music
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Reply #2 posted 04/28/06 8:34pm

stagedancer

Doozer said:

The song you're hearing is in fact called "I Wonder" -- it was never officially released but has been in circulation for quite some time. music


Cool. Was it a B side? Is there anywhere I can purchase it? What's the scoop?
I LOVE that song. smile
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Reply #3 posted 04/28/06 9:16pm

mplsmike

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"A gust of sothern wind came
And took my girl away from me...
Now tears can fill an ocean
My tears can fill a sea...i wonder"
Love Life,
Love God,
And Only Do Drugs You Need
smoker

... wave
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Reply #4 posted 04/29/06 1:16am

BorisFishpaw

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stagedancer said:

Doozer said:

The song you're hearing is in fact called "I Wonder" -- it was never officially released but has been in circulation for quite some time. music


Cool. Was it a B side? Is there anywhere I can purchase it? What's the scoop?
I LOVE that song. smile


It's never been released, so you can only find it on outtake bootlegs.
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Reply #5 posted 04/29/06 3:27am

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THIS is the song 3121 reminded me of--the opening anyway. if u mashed the opening beats preceeding the guitar in 3121 with i (or was he using 'eye' at this point) wonder, u might have something pretty cool sounding...boris, what if any album was this projected for? it's from '91 era isn't it? pre- diamonds and pearls?
[Edited 4/29/06 3:29am]
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Reply #6 posted 04/29/06 4:36am

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why this track was never used is beyond me.
It is such a kick ass song and quite easily one of the best out-takes ive ever heard.

Am i right in thinking it was a D&P out take?
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
KrystleEyes 22/03/05
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Reply #7 posted 04/29/06 4:52am

rockyraccoon

all the other girls are dumb,
dumber than a post,
but my girl knows everything,
i'm the king,
so i need 2 bost..


still i wonder,
if she really ever know







great lyric, great track.. should be released...anyday now
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Reply #8 posted 04/29/06 6:37am

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'I Wonder' is a great little track. The only worry is, if he released it, he might be tempted to fiddle around with. The version that's circulating is the essence of simplicity and perfection.
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Reply #9 posted 04/29/06 8:44am

BorisFishpaw

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NouveauDance said:

'I Wonder' is a great little track. The only worry is, if he released it, he might be tempted to fiddle around with. The version that's circulating is the essence of simplicity and perfection.


Well the circulating boot is just a rough demo mix, so it's more than likely
that if it ever were released it would indeed be different. But then this is the
case for a lot of unreleased tracks... the version we're used to is just a rough
mix made before the track was finished (often before the horns or strings or
guitar or whatever were added). Then we complain that Prince 'tampered' with it
when it finally sees the light of day (which is actually not the case in most
instances).
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Reply #10 posted 04/29/06 9:16am

sosgemini

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BorisFishpaw said:

stagedancer said:



Cool. Was it a B side? Is there anywhere I can purchase it? What's the scoop?
I LOVE that song. smile


It's never been released, so you can only find it on outtake bootlegs.



but was it a b-side?


lurking
Space for sale...
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Reply #11 posted 04/30/06 7:55pm

Doozer

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stagedancer said:

Doozer said:

The song you're hearing is in fact called "I Wonder" -- it was never officially released but has been in circulation for quite some time. music


Cool. Was it a B side? Is there anywhere I can purchase it? What's the scoop?
I LOVE that song. smile



Never officially released = not available on any official album, b-side, compilation, maxi-single, bonus track, hidden track, club download, related artist album, or EP.
Check out The Mountains and the Sea, a Prince podcast by yours truly and my wife. More info at https://www.facebook.com/TMATSPodcast/
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Reply #12 posted 04/30/06 8:47pm

mashedpotato

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threeseed said



THIS is the song 3121 reminded me of--the opening anyway. if u mashed the opening beats preceeding the guitar in 3121 with i (or was he using 'eye' at this point) wonder

You are exactly right-I was listening to the song 3121 in the car yesterday and it dawned on me that it was the exact beginning of an old song. I turned to my wife and told her that it was a bootleg of some country and western sounding song Prince had done and she didn't belive me. I then worked it out, that it was I Wonder and was just about to begin looking for it when I read this post. Saved me starting a new post.
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Reply #13 posted 04/30/06 11:35pm

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mashedpotato said:

threeseed said



THIS is the song 3121 reminded me of--the opening anyway. if u mashed the opening beats preceeding the guitar in 3121 with i (or was he using 'eye' at this point) wonder

You are exactly right-I was listening to the song 3121 in the car yesterday and it dawned on me that it was the exact beginning of an old song. I turned to my wife and told her that it was a bootleg of some country and western sounding song Prince had done and she didn't belive me. I then worked it out, that it was I Wonder and was just about to begin looking for it when I read this post. Saved me starting a new post.


I just dont hear it.
I dont think any of I Wonder sounds like 3121.
And i wouldnt say that I Wonder sounded anything like a country and western song.
Just my thoughts.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
KrystleEyes 22/03/05
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Reply #14 posted 05/01/06 3:29am

mashedpotato

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muirdo said:

mashedpotato said:

threeseed said
You are exactly right-I was listening to the song 3121 in the car yesterday and it dawned on me that it was the exact beginning of an old song. I turned to my wife and told her that it was a bootleg of some country and western sounding song Prince had done and she didn't belive me. I then worked it out, that it was I Wonder and was just about to begin looking for it when I read this post. Saved me starting a new post.


I just dont hear it.
I dont think any of I Wonder sounds like 3121.
And i wouldnt say that I Wonder sounded anything like a country and western song.
Just my thoughts.


The version I have has a definite bassy synth sound going right through the song(but most noticeable in the beginning) which goes right through 3121-it definitely is there. Maybe we should start a new thread "3121 vs I Wonder" to get other viewpoints. The reason I said it was country and western sounding is that his vocals have a southern drawl to them. And the humour in the lyrics and subject matter are typical of a C/W song-I believe he probably wrote it for some Country singer.
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Reply #15 posted 05/02/06 9:06pm

threeseed

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mashedpotato said:

muirdo said:



I just dont hear it.
I dont think any of I Wonder sounds like 3121.
And i wouldnt say that I Wonder sounded anything like a country and western song.
Just my thoughts.


The version I have has a definite bassy synth sound going right through the song(but most noticeable in the beginning) which goes right through 3121-it definitely is there. Maybe we should start a new thread "3121 vs I Wonder" to get other viewpoints. The reason I said it was country and western sounding is that his vocals have a southern drawl to them. And the humour in the lyrics and subject matter are typical of a C/W song-I believe he probably wrote it for some Country singer.

ya know, i never thought of it that way, but it would be great for someone like--well, i'm no country fan, so i couldn't say who exactly, but some country-singer guy...
Chris Gaines?lol. . .
i loveloveLOVE his vocal on this demo track, though again, not being a c&w fan, i hear it as "bluesy" and imagined joe cocker(similar vocal to 5 women) or even, say, bb king. . .
who was the country dude that john mayer performed with a while back?--he should do it!
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Reply #16 posted 05/23/06 6:41pm

stagedancer

I definitely hear the similiarities between the two songs. It's kind of hard at first because the quality of my track is so poor...but it's there. It's just a cool, groovin', get my mind off of mind-blowing traffic kinda song. smile God bless our sexy vegetarian. razz
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