is Gold overrated?

Definately the most over-rated amongst the Orgers.

Definately the most over-rated amongst the Orgers.

Before you jump all over me, I like this album just fine.

It's so often hailed as a classic around here--the one 90's album worthy of his catalog. But the individual songs get bashed pretty often.

P Control is pathetic posing and bad rap

Endorphinmachine was ruined in production

We March is plastic & cheesy

Beautiful is boring & cheesy

Dolphin is just plain lame

Eye Hate U is typical dull Prince balladry with questionable lyrics

Gold is pandering pop, with none of the soul of Purple Rain (which it's clearly an answer to).

This leaves SHHH, Now, 319, Billy Jack Bitch, & Shy as pretty well liked in general. Five songs that don't get much criticism, but are they classics?

Am I misreading people's comments, or is Gold overrated?

NDRU said:

[b]Look Mommy! I too can display my prejudice and subjectivity without really saying anything other than "I don't like it".

What's so great about Purple Rain?

Let's go crazy---stupid sermon intro and cheesy 80's guitar
Take me with U---- Gushy and corny Apollonia is a horrible singer.
Beautiful Ones-- Sappy, Boring, and screechy.
Computer Blue----Just plain Lame
Darling Nikki-----Derivative Prince being dirty and, again, boring.
When Doves Cry-----Cheesy keyboards and stupid lack of bass
I would die 4 U--typically inane Prince religious posturing
Baby, I'm a star---corny show choir American Idol crap--pandering to the crowd
Purple Rain-----again, corny, and pandering to the unintellectual country/pop crowd. Middle america will LOVE this, but it's below Prince.

You see? It's easy to stupidly critique without any real substance. You can do it for any type of art.Please, if you want to discuss the merit of the album, raise the level a little bit. Anyone can trash something and day "it sucks". Be specific and I'll do likewise in telling you why The Gold Experience is classic Prince.[/b]
[Edited 5/17/06 12:52pm]

Yes, people also will say Purple rain sucks, but not as many as will say Endorphinmachine was completely ruined on the Gold Experience.

NDRU said:

Only those people that have heard the unreleased versions of Endorphinmachine would say that the production ruined the released version, and of course you weren't supposed to hear those early versions anyway. Personally, I have always preferred the released version, the extra production and sounds enrich it in my opinion. The original version sounds a bit rawer, but raw doesn't always equal better. Same for the difference between the original Gold and the released version. At the very least, 'ruined' is an over-exaggeration, there are a few slight differences but they don't 'ruin' the song anymore than a bit of bass on When Doves Cry would have completely 'ruined' that song. Made it slightly less brilliant, maybe, but that's about it.

I think TGE is a bit like 3121 - individually, you can criticise all of the songs for this or that, but somehow together they add upto a strong, punchy album.

I think TGE is a bit like 3121 - individually, you can criticise all of the songs for this or that, but somehow together they add upto a strong, punchy album.

I think you might have misunderstood me. I like this album, I was paraphrasing some of the comments I have read from other people. The album is highly praised, but many of the songs are routinely put down. Maybe it's just greater than the sum of its parts.

Yes, people also will say Purple rain sucks, but not as many as will say Endorphinmachine was completely ruined on the Gold Experience.

Before you jump all over me, I like this album just fine.

It's so often hailed as a classic around here--the one 90's album worthy of his catalog. But the individual songs get bashed pretty often:

"P Control is pathetic posing and bad rap

Endorphinmachine was ruined in production

We March is plastic & cheesy

Beautiful is boring & cheesy

Dolphin is just plain lame

Eye Hate U is typical dull Prince balladry with questionable lyrics

Gold is pandering pop, with none of the soul of Purple Rain (which it's clearly an answer to)."

This leaves SHHH, Now, 319, Billy Jack Bitch, & Shy as pretty well liked in general. Five songs that don't get much criticism, but are they classics?

Am I misreading people's comments, or is Gold overrated?
[Edited 5/17/06 13:30pm]

NDRU said:

[b]Look Mommy! I too can display my prejudice and subjectivity without really saying anything other than "I don't like it".

What's so great about Purple Rain?

Let's go crazy---stupid sermon intro and cheesy 80's guitar
Take me with U---- Gushy and corny Apollonia is a horrible singer.
Beautiful Ones-- Sappy, Boring, and screechy.
Computer Blue----Just plain Lame
Darling Nikki-----Derivative Prince being dirty and, again, boring.
When Doves Cry-----Cheesy keyboards and stupid lack of bass
I would die 4 U--typically inane Prince religious posturing
Baby, I'm a star---corny show choir American Idol crap--pandering to the crowd
Purple Rain-----again, corny, and pandering to the unintellectual country/pop crowd. Middle america will LOVE this, but it's below Prince.

You see? It's easy to stupidly critique without any real substance. You can do it for any type of art.Please, if you want to discuss the merit of the album, raise the level a little bit. Anyone can trash something and day "it sucks". Be specific and I'll do likewise in telling you why The Gold Experience is classic Prince.[/b]
[Edited 5/17/06 12:52pm]

ILL put it like this .....SONNY T, MICHAEL B, TOMMY B, MORRIS HAYES. IM SORRY BUT THE GOLD EXPERIENCE WAS, AND ALWAYS WILL B DA SHIT!!!!!

now back to our regularly scheduled program

Eye Hate U is typical dull Prince balladry with questionable lyrics