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I am Proud of Prince Thanks for sparing us an American Idol disaster!!!

So Prince has decided not to do American Idol. The reasons being released is that he doesn't want to talk to the contestants but he will or would perform.

Well I don't know if any of you have been watching this season but I am in 100% agreement with Prince!!

For starters having seen what they did this week to Queen's music I will gladly thank Prince for sparing my ears those injustices!! Let's get real people. Most of you get mad when you hear someone sing or write a song even remotely like Prince (Van Hunt anybody!) Now you are telling me you want to hear a bunch of people warbel through his greatest hits!! I sure as hell don't

One girl forgot the words to a Stevie Wonder song? Can you believe that? I would be furious if that happend on the show. And lets face it we all know Prince. One of those kids messes up ONE of his words let alone messes up one of songs and well..... Prince might really act like Prince. I mean old Prince before he became kinder and gentler.

So as much as I agree this would be a great performance for us all to view!! And you know without a doubt he would comepletely rock it. I am glad he has spared us the indignity of watching him A. Whore his songs out and B. Spare us the horror of watching people mess them up!!

Thanks much Prince. I love that you love your music and I respect you deeply for not caving into the pressure to be a complete media whore!
THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!!
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Reply #1 posted 04/12/06 7:10pm

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I second this!
From the moment I heard that he was going to do American Idol I was like"WHAT!!!!"

I was hoping that he wouldn't go that low and do the show.

Yes thank you Prince.
Everytime I comb my hair
Thoughts of you get in my eyes...

Vous etes tres belle...
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Reply #2 posted 04/12/06 7:18pm

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rolleyes
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Reply #3 posted 04/12/06 7:21pm

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I think it would've been awesome to see how he would talk to the contestants.

"Bitch...U think Ur special?
Well, so do I!"
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Reply #4 posted 04/12/06 7:21pm

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Those fuckers butchered the shit out of Freddy Merc's stuff. Part of me would have liked to see Prince get props from a younger generation, but not by those tools.
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Reply #5 posted 04/12/06 7:23pm

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Itold u he would not do it,why stoop that low? he has more class than that and i 4 one am glad he said no way (not that i believe he would anyways ] but anyways kudos prince now i know u have standards,somewhat! cool
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Reply #6 posted 04/12/06 7:25pm

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squirrelgrease said:

Those fuckers butchered the shit out of Freddy Merc's stuff. Part of me would have liked to see Prince get props from a younger generation, but not by those tools.


- Agreed smile
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Reply #7 posted 04/12/06 7:28pm

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I think it would've been awesome to see how he would talk to the contestants.

"Bitch...U think Ur special?
Well, so do I!"


See I really don't think he would. I mean when you think about it. Nothing in his past career points to him talking to a bunch of young kids while the cameras are rolling and listening to them sing his music.

Prince can be colder than Simon! Also did you see the Queen guys talking about how much they liked each contestant? Even the ones that really jacked the songs up?

I agree I would love to see the kids give him his props but at the same time I believe that it has to be on his terms. I respect him for that.
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Reply #8 posted 04/12/06 7:28pm

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squirrelgrease said:

Those fuckers butchered the shit out of Freddy Merc's stuff. Part of me would have liked to see Prince get props from a younger generation, but not by those tools.


Exactly!!
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Reply #9 posted 04/12/06 7:51pm

JOEYCOCO

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Reply #10 posted 04/12/06 7:52pm

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As far as being "too good to talk to the kids" that some people claim was being harsh on Prince's part.

Well ... he IS going to be talking to a bunch of kids (and adults) at the Purple Ticket Party. So it's not that he's too good to socialize. I have a feeling that this was more of a push from Universal and Mr. Nelson keeping them happy with the consideration. I'm sure he got a fat check from the big boys and you'd be happy to oblige wishes too.

I would rather see him as a guest on that show "Rock Star". The INXS show was pretty cool sometimes. I could see him schooling on songwriting, musicianship and showmanship. But I doubt that will happen as the next band will be Tommy Lee and the Guns and Roses guys focusing on a metal band.

This "Pop Idol" crap, where you are a puppet to middle-aged wanna-be musicians/song writers who never made it on their own, now called "producers" that hopefully can flip you into a PRODUCT SYSTEM needs to just go away anyhow. It's been going south for years and unfortunately it's going to have to hit rock bottom before people will start rejecting what's been force-fed to them. Why support that system that he's voiced so much against since the symbol days?

The only positive thing I could have seen out of this is if he had complete control of the show and voiced the real-deal on national television. But that ain't gonna happen on Idol. Not to mention Simon throwing in some digs. You know that would have happened. As far as being in a conversation setting, Prince is either on or off as far as holding court. To risky to be off guard in a live setting.

It would be like preaching in hell.

idol is the devil edit
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Reply #11 posted 04/12/06 7:54pm

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squirrelgrease said:

Those fuckers butchered the shit out of Freddy Merc's stuff. Part of me would have liked to see Prince get props from a younger generation, but not by those tools.

nod I said it in another thread that I wanted Prince to dfo American Idol UNTIL I saw last night's show. That was so horrendous what they all did to Queen's songs. They would do twice as bad with Prince's.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #12 posted 04/12/06 7:54pm

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I think it would've been awesome to see how he would talk to the contestants.

"Bitch...U think Ur special?
Well, so do I!"


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Reply #13 posted 04/12/06 8:37pm

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As far as being "too good to talk to the kids" that some people claim was being harsh on Prince's part.

Well ... he IS going to be talking to a bunch of kids (and adults) at the Purple Ticket Party. So it's not that he's too good to socialize. I have a feeling that this was more of a push from Universal and Mr. Nelson keeping them happy with the consideration. I'm sure he got a fat check from the big boys and you'd be happy to oblige wishes too.

I would rather see him as a guest on that show "Rock Star". The INXS show was pretty cool sometimes. I could see him schooling on songwriting, musicianship and showmanship. But I doubt that will happen as the next band will be Tommy Lee and the Guns and Roses guys focusing on a metal band.

This "Pop Idol" crap, where you are a puppet to middle-aged wanna-be musicians/song writers who never made it on their own, now called "producers" that hopefully can flip you into a PRODUCT SYSTEM needs to just go away anyhow. It's been going south for years and unfortunately it's going to have to hit rock bottom before people will start rejecting what's been force-fed to them. Why support that system that he's voiced so much against since the symbol days?

The only positive thing I could have seen out of this is if he had complete control of the show and voiced the real-deal on national television. But that ain't gonna happen on Idol. Not to mention Simon throwing in some digs. You know that would have happened. As far as being in a conversation setting, Prince is either on or off as far as holding court. To risky to be off guard in a live setting.

It would be like preaching in hell.

idol is the devil edit
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Pop/American Idol is exactly the same way that any other artist gets their fame/success. It's just different (and bad) to some people because you're seeing the sausages made on TV, and we get to vote up front on it. It's not any different than the trajectory of any other artist's career. It just skips over the bullshit at the beginning.
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Slipstream said:

yamomma said:

As far as being "too good to talk to the kids" that some people claim was being harsh on Prince's part.

Well ... he IS going to be talking to a bunch of kids (and adults) at the Purple Ticket Party. So it's not that he's too good to socialize. I have a feeling that this was more of a push from Universal and Mr. Nelson keeping them happy with the consideration. I'm sure he got a fat check from the big boys and you'd be happy to oblige wishes too.

I would rather see him as a guest on that show "Rock Star". The INXS show was pretty cool sometimes. I could see him schooling on songwriting, musicianship and showmanship. But I doubt that will happen as the next band will be Tommy Lee and the Guns and Roses guys focusing on a metal band.

This "Pop Idol" crap, where you are a puppet to middle-aged wanna-be musicians/song writers who never made it on their own, now called "producers" that hopefully can flip you into a PRODUCT SYSTEM needs to just go away anyhow. It's been going south for years and unfortunately it's going to have to hit rock bottom before people will start rejecting what's been force-fed to them. Why support that system that he's voiced so much against since the symbol days?

The only positive thing I could have seen out of this is if he had complete control of the show and voiced the real-deal on national television. But that ain't gonna happen on Idol. Not to mention Simon throwing in some digs. You know that would have happened. As far as being in a conversation setting, Prince is either on or off as far as holding court. To risky to be off guard in a live setting.

It would be like preaching in hell.

idol is the devil edit
[Edited 4/12/06 20:05pm]



Pop/American Idol is exactly the same way that any other artist gets their fame/success. It's just different (and bad) to some people because you're seeing the sausages made on TV, and we get to vote up front on it. It's not any different than the trajectory of any other artist's career. It just skips over the bullshit at the beginning.


Apples and oranges dude. I'm talking about the show that is looking for a pretty face with some decent pipes to slap a price tag on and flip a buck. Don't use the term "artist" so freely, man. That's like calling Britney Spears an "artist". An artist creates and motivates. A true artist will stand the test of time. The only thing this show had going for them is the initial episodes that humor on the weak "tallent" and even that is getting stale.

Be honest. The greats inovate ... and will be remembered unlike most of the product and bi-product from said show. People dug a lot of force-fed disco in back in the day, but you won't catch those same people spinning those records (or 8-tracks) today.

Mindless dribble that's only used to keep some pace while makin' babies. "Hit me, baby one more time" ... Heck, I'd slap-da-ho 3, maybe 14 times! In public, on Oprah, in front of Dr. Phill and my mother.

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Reply #15 posted 04/12/06 9:15pm

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I think the show has it's moments but all the music to come out of the show has sucked, except for Ruben Studdard's Sorry 2004, that's my jam.
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Reply #16 posted 04/12/06 9:24pm

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Actually ...
Britney WAS labled as "Artist of the Year" a while back. I guess that puts her right up there with VanGough, DaVinci, Hemingway, Bach, Joni M, The Beatles and Hendrix.

I get paid to make pretty pictures, videos and websites all day. Does that make me an artist too?
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Reply #17 posted 04/12/06 9:31pm

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I think people need to keep posting more threads on this. rolleyes
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
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Reply #18 posted 04/12/06 9:42pm

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By the way, Prince does not get the honor of the "artist" status for his eccentric behavior, the tailored clothing or even the dance hits like "Soft and Wet".

He gets it from some (not all) thought provoking song writing, good musicianship, composition and kick ass abilities as a band leader that didn't happen over night or even the first several years of his career.

Tallent does come naturally for many, but "artist" stature is something to be worked at and earned. Unfortunately for most, the recognition doesn't happen until after they are gone. Luckily we're seeing one in action. (Despite his current release, but that's a matter of opinion, of course)
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Reply #19 posted 04/12/06 10:18pm

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yamomma said:

Slipstream said:




Pop/American Idol is exactly the same way that any other artist gets their fame/success. It's just different (and bad) to some people because you're seeing the sausages made on TV, and we get to vote up front on it. It's not any different than the trajectory of any other artist's career. It just skips over the bullshit at the beginning.


Apples and oranges dude. I'm talking about the show that is looking for a pretty face with some decent pipes to slap a price tag on and flip a buck.



Yes. That's exactly what the music industry has been for AT LEAST the last 50-55 years. You're kidding yourself if you think it's not and hasn't been for the entire modern era.
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Slipstream said:

yamomma said:



Apples and oranges dude. I'm talking about the show that is looking for a pretty face with some decent pipes to slap a price tag on and flip a buck.



Yes. That's exactly what the music industry has been for AT LEAST the last 50-55 years. You're kidding yourself if you think it's not and hasn't been for the entire modern era.


I completely agree with you there. My point was "Why encourage the man to feed this crap?"

What I disagreed with is that it sounded like you were saying that this system "makes" an artist to where I would have to say modern culture has a pretty deluted view on what an "artist" really is and how tallent is measured.
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Reply #21 posted 04/12/06 10:34pm

Amaxx

chiltonmusic said:

Illustrator said:

I think it would've been awesome to see how he would talk to the contestants.

"Bitch...U think Ur special?
Well, so do I!"


See I really don't think he would. I mean when you think about it. Nothing in his past career points to him talking to a bunch of young kids while the cameras are rolling and listening to them sing his music.

Prince can be colder than Simon! Also did you see the Queen guys talking about how much they liked each contestant? Even the ones that really jacked the songs up?

I agree I would love to see the kids give him his props but at the same time I believe that it has to be on his terms. I respect him for that.


At the end of the day, it isn't in Princes' character 2 do something as media driven as Idol. He's never been one to be in the mainstream media spotlight. I was shocked that he presented at the Emmys last year. Interviews R like hens teeth. What it all boils down 2 is, if he isn't on stage or in the studio, he's intensley shy!
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yamomma said:


I completely agree with you there. My point was "Why encourage the man to feed this crap?"

What I disagreed with is that it sounded like you were saying that this system "makes" an artist to where I would have to say modern culture has a pretty deluted view on what an "artist" really is and how tallent is measured.



- I agree. Here in Brasil we have one of these reality shows called ´Fame´...ALL the contestants are SINGER-wannabes only. The winner usually records a Cd where he/she has no artistic control (only singing corny songs, oriented by a producer) and usually disappears, hardly recording more than two albums.

In the 60s we had more artistic contests, where the artists were on stage to show their songs. Most of the winners are great artists until today and very respected. Today media is only concerned about ´instant celebrities´.
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Reply #23 posted 04/13/06 5:43am

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Hell yeah, I'm glad he didn't go on that show. That amateur ass show is far beneath someone like Prince. Also, when those contestants get record deals, none of them jam. They just continue making the same slow or midtempo bullshit that's all over the airwaves. I don't see a future "Prince" or "Bernadette Cooper" coming from that show. Just another future "Shitney Houston" or "Freddie Jackson".
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lilgish said:

I think the show has it's moments but all the music to come out of the show has sucked, except for Ruben Studdard's Sorry 2004, that's my jam.


I completely disagree
I think the only good music that
has come out of the show is Kelly Clarkson.

She's got pipes!! and is starting to write
her own stuff now too.

But Chris Daughtry is gonna have a great album.

This boy is baaad!
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Reply #25 posted 04/13/06 7:05am

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chiltonmusic said:

So Prince has decided not to do American Idol. The reasons being released is that he doesn't want to talk to the contestants but he will or would perform.

Well I don't know if any of you have been watching this season but I am in 100% agreement with Prince!!

For starters having seen what they did this week to Queen's music I will gladly thank Prince for sparing my ears those injustices!! Let's get real people. Most of you get mad when you hear someone sing or write a song even remotely like Prince (Van Hunt anybody!) Now you are telling me you want to hear a bunch of people warbel through his greatest hits!! I sure as hell don't

One girl forgot the words to a Stevie Wonder song? Can you believe that? I would be furious if that happend on the show. And lets face it we all know Prince. One of those kids messes up ONE of his words let alone messes up one of songs and well..... Prince might really act like Prince. I mean old Prince before he became kinder and gentler.

So as much as I agree this would be a great performance for us all to view!! And you know without a doubt he would comepletely rock it. I am glad he has spared us the indignity of watching him A. Whore his songs out and B. Spare us the horror of watching people mess them up!!

Thanks much Prince. I love that you love your music and I respect you deeply for not caving into the pressure to be a complete media whore!


I completely disagree with almost everything you said.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #26 posted 04/13/06 8:44am

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I get paid to make pretty pictures, videos and websites all day. Does that make me an artist too?


Yes.

And I graduated from KCAI so I should know. biggrin
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thedoorkeeper said:

yamomma said:

I get paid to make pretty pictures, videos and websites all day. Does that make me an artist too?


Yes.

And I graduated from KCAI so I should know. biggrin


Actually, that was a trick question.
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agreed.








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Hey Chilton!!
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chiltonmusic said:

So Prince has decided not to do American Idol. The reasons being released is that he doesn't want to talk to the contestants but he will or would perform.

Well I don't know if any of you have been watching this season but I am in 100% agreement with Prince!!

For starters having seen what they did this week to Queen's music I will gladly thank Prince for sparing my ears those injustices!! Let's get real people. Most of you get mad when you hear someone sing or write a song even remotely like Prince (Van Hunt anybody!) Now you are telling me you want to hear a bunch of people warbel through his greatest hits!! I sure as hell don't

One girl forgot the words to a Stevie Wonder song? Can you believe that? I would be furious if that happend on the show. And lets face it we all know Prince. One of those kids messes up ONE of his words let alone messes up one of songs and well..... Prince might really act like Prince. I mean old Prince before he became kinder and gentler.

So as much as I agree this would be a great performance for us all to view!! And you know without a doubt he would comepletely rock it. I am glad he has spared us the indignity of watching him A. Whore his songs out and B. Spare us the horror of watching people mess them up!!

Thanks much Prince. I love that you love your music and I respect you deeply for not caving into the pressure to be a complete media whore!



Co-fucking-sign.

And I happened to see the Queen karoke night. disbelief Atrocious. Can you image how badly they would have butchered Prince's songs?
The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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