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Reply #30 posted 04/07/06 7:54am

OdysseyMiles

I kinda dig that "The Truth" is more of an underground album. I also agree with the comments of others here that it probably wouldn't have been appreciated by the public and critics anyway. I don't fault Prince for releasing it how and when he did. If he hadn't, it may have gotten left behind and never been released at all. I'm just glad we have it. There are some gems in there.



By the way.....

Promo photo 4 the Back cover of the Truth CD,
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I love that photo. Looks like it was taken in the 1920's.
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Reply #31 posted 04/07/06 8:18am

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I would have been absolutely pissed if "The Truth" had been his official album release in stores that year. Since music is the first thing that catches my ear in songs and lyrics second, I find stripped down accoustical music in general extremely boring and condider "The Truth" to be Prince's worst album ever. Also, accoustical music reminds me of folk or country music which I find not only boring, but depressing as well. Then, after skimming through the tracks on "The Truth" and hating them, without "Crystal Ball", I would have to wait another full year for some decent Prince music because I don't like even one track on "The Truth".

I do agree that it shouldn't have been "hidden" in the "Crystal Ball" set because the price of the set could have been cheaper without it. "The Truth" should have been sold through 1-800-NEW-FUNK or the internet only.
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Reply #32 posted 04/07/06 8:20am

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To me, he couldn't leave well enough alone on this one.

The sound effects on it disturbed the acoustic feel, while the vocal overdubs were distracting.

Also, on the tracks were it was just raw singing and the guitar, some of the tracks sound unfinished.

It's a good album. But too many glitches to be given the acclaim it gets I think.
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Reply #33 posted 04/07/06 8:23am

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sounds like a very rushed album to me... Ideas that never came to fruition... theres a few exceptions, but by and large the songs sound a bit dull and lifeless... Made up on the spot with some dodgy lyrics...

Not as bad as Musicology and Rave tho'...
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Reply #34 posted 04/07/06 9:18am

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Brilliant album. Great lyric's.
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Reply #35 posted 04/07/06 9:25am

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when I let people borrow this one, they're not too excited by it, they say one or two are okay. It's not going to hit like John Mayer or anything.
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Reply #36 posted 04/07/06 9:33am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Not the album itself, but not giving it a proper release and including it as a hidden disc.

Including this as a hidden bonus to the Crystal Ball set, was a complete dis-service and slap in the face to what is one of Prince's most honest, fresh and compelling albums. Not only were we treated to Prince's accoustic styling but some of the lyrics here are so tight. So much food for thought nod Plus he wasn't hysterical about using cursewords. Just Prince being Prince. What is the big deal in saying "muthafuckin piece of pie" There aint none.

I wonder how the album would have been receieved as an independent release....both by critics and fans. If anything, New Power Soul should have been a hidden disc so that gems like this could get their proper dues nod

you couldn't play enough of me now to make me feel like a star.....Don't play me...I already do in my car". That is some smart shit worship
[Edited 4/6/06 15:10pm]


I hear you, but I think the thing it was packaged with was a bigger mistake.


I am certian that this album will get it's due notice in our lifetime.

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Reply #37 posted 04/07/06 9:34am

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NouveauDance said:

I don't think it would've made much impact, what with it being slap-bang in the middle of Prince's down-period, commercially.

If I'm not mistaken, it was going to follow Emancipation at one point on EMI, but they folded, so we know how that went. Then there was mention of, again, a proper release for the album "in 2001" (I think).... Which never materialised.

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That whole time for him was a very prolific period. I am amazed at how much he was doing at the time. WHat's even more interesting is that it was completely different than most of the out put at the time.

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Reply #38 posted 04/07/06 9:37am

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vainandy said:

I would have been absolutely pissed if "The Truth" had been his official album release in stores that year. Since music is the first thing that catches my ear in songs and lyrics second, I find stripped down accoustical music in general extremely boring and condider "The Truth" to be Prince's worst album ever. Also, accoustical music reminds me of folk or country music which I find not only boring, but depressing as well. Then, after skimming through the tracks on "The Truth" and hating them, without "Crystal Ball", I would have to wait another full year for some decent Prince music because I don't like even one track on "The Truth".

I do agree that it shouldn't have been "hidden" in the "Crystal Ball" set because the price of the set could have been cheaper without it. "The Truth" should have been sold through 1-800-NEW-FUNK or the internet only.
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Well considering it really is his only accoustic album, I can't see how anyone could have issue with the 1 out of 30 releases that was really different from the rest lol
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Reply #39 posted 04/07/06 10:01am

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yamomma said:

I remember an old interview with Prince talking about Crystal Ball. When asked about "The Truth" he said he really wasn't sure how he wanted to release it and that it was Mayte's suggestion to give it away for free as part of the package.

So, I guess you can blame it on a girl. razz

Does anyone know if it got as far with some artwork/packaging for the album? Other than single cover.


He ought to have left it as Karma Sutra as the extra gift.

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Reply #40 posted 04/07/06 11:41am

Riverpoet31

I agree that Prince should have released as a seperate, 'official' album.

It was offering something new: a more intimate, direct sounding Prince. Many journalists around that time were nagging: Prince is repeating himselve. The Truth saw him embracing a more 'mature', singer-songwriter kind of sound and ethic: personally i did find that very refreshing, i mean: i was getting older, getting more introspective, thoughtfull, while Prince still seemed to sing about: parties, young chicks, sounding like some plastic R&B artist on many emancipation-tracks. I bet many music critics felt that way.

Not too say that The Truth is a great record (Man in a uniform by example is crappy filler), but at least it was showing a Prince trying to sound more mature and intimate, and i really dig his acoustic guitar playing on it (more sober, elementary, less 'showy' then some of his electric stuff). He should have take a chance by releasing is at a single official album.
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Reply #41 posted 04/07/06 12:05pm

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OdysseyMiles said:


By the way.....

Promo photo 4 the Back cover of the Truth CD,
This was originally intende...



I love that photo. Looks like it was taken in the 1920's.


nod I like it too, tres cool. cool

The rest (thought these might be in the gallery too - mods please nab them for the org gallery, if they aren't there already smile )....



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Reply #42 posted 04/07/06 12:16pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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NouveauDance said:

OdysseyMiles said:


By the way.....

Promo photo 4 the Back cover of the Truth CD,
This was originally intende...



I love that photo. Looks like it was taken in the 1920's.


nod I like it too, tres cool. cool

The rest (thought these might be in the gallery too - mods please nab them for the org gallery, if they aren't there already smile )....






eek eek eek

Thank you baby! biggrin
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Reply #43 posted 04/07/06 12:28pm

Universaluv

It would've been a critics darling at best. Critics would have eaten it up. Wouldn't have done anything for the masses.
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Reply #44 posted 04/07/06 12:35pm

candyperfume

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maybe it was just meant to be a hidden gem for true fans only.


I like the way you think. This is one of my absolute favorite albums. I'm glad the masses didn't get to it. The same way I feel about the song, Get On the Boat, I feel about the album, the Truth...these songs aren't for everyone.
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Reply #45 posted 04/07/06 2:42pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

vainandy said:

I would have been absolutely pissed if "The Truth" had been his official album release in stores that year. Since music is the first thing that catches my ear in songs and lyrics second, I find stripped down accoustical music in general extremely boring and condider "The Truth" to be Prince's worst album ever. Also, accoustical music reminds me of folk or country music which I find not only boring, but depressing as well. Then, after skimming through the tracks on "The Truth" and hating them, without "Crystal Ball", I would have to wait another full year for some decent Prince music because I don't like even one track on "The Truth".

I do agree that it shouldn't have been "hidden" in the "Crystal Ball" set because the price of the set could have been cheaper without it. "The Truth" should have been sold through 1-800-NEW-FUNK or the internet only.
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[Edited 4/7/06 8:20am]

Well considering it really is his only accoustic album, I can't see how anyone could have issue with the 1 out of 30 releases that was really different from the rest lol


That was one too many. evillol By the time that album was released, I had already taken radio stations that play current music off my dial because music had gone for the worst. Prince was the only person making new music that I looked and still look forward to. Another year would have been a long time to wait considering no one else was putting out jams. Hell, I'm ready for a new Prince album already and his current one has only been out a few weeks. lol
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Reply #46 posted 04/07/06 4:52pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Not the album itself, but not giving it a proper release and including it as a hidden disc.

Including this as a hidden bonus to the Crystal Ball set, was a complete dis-service and slap in the face to what is one of Prince's most honest, fresh and compelling albums. Not only were we treated to Prince's accoustic styling but some of the lyrics here are so tight. So much food for thought nod Plus he wasn't hysterical about using cursewords. Just Prince being Prince. What is the big deal in saying "muthafuckin piece of pie" There aint none.

I wonder how the album would have been receieved as an independent release....both by critics and fans. If anything, New Power Soul should have been a hidden disc so that gems like this could get their proper dues nod

you couldn't play enough of me now to make me feel like a star.....Don't play me...I already do in my car". That is some smart shit worship
[Edited 4/6/06 15:10pm] I feel the same way, only I think He should have released some of the best cuts off the truth & Crystal Ball. There is no doubt some of His best work is buried in these 2 discs but Prince marches to His own drummer and we --or those that weren't lucky enough to have heard this stuff get stuck with 3121 which is tight, but can't compete w/ that stuff. DAC
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Reply #47 posted 04/07/06 5:19pm

babynoz

Hi Supa wave

I like the album except for Animal Kingdom. I think it would be well received by critics, but too meandering for mass appeal. I like the laid back feel of it and I also like the fact that it's one of a kind.


I hope all is well with you.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #48 posted 04/07/06 11:26pm

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candyperfume said:

kpowers said:

maybe it was just meant to be a hidden gem for true fans only.


I like the way you think. This is one of my absolute favorite albums. I'm glad the masses didn't get to it. The same way I feel about the song, Get On the Boat, I feel about the album, the Truth...these songs aren't for everyone.




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Reply #49 posted 04/08/06 11:25am

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babynoz said:

Hi Supa wave

I like the album except for Animal Kingdom. I think it would be well received by critics, but too meandering for mass appeal. I like the laid back feel of it and I also like the fact that it's one of a kind.


I hope all is well with you.

thank you baby hug I'm well nod
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Reply #50 posted 04/08/06 12:04pm

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The Truth is a very strong album.

What's interesting is that it isn't anything like a traditional acoustic guitar album. It's a lot colder and more digital, and I think that actually gives it a really interesting, sad effect.
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Reply #51 posted 04/08/06 1:58pm

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I will go even further--if you hate The Truth, you hate God.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #52 posted 04/08/06 4:40pm

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You ain't nevah lied Supa, The Truth is still pretty amazing nod mushy
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #53 posted 04/09/06 11:00am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Not the album itself, but not giving it a proper release and including it as a hidden disc.

Including this as a hidden bonus to the Crystal Ball set, was a complete dis-service and slap in the face to what is one of Prince's most honest, fresh and compelling albums. Not only were we treated to Prince's accoustic styling but some of the lyrics here are so tight. So much food for thought nod Plus he wasn't hysterical about using cursewords. Just Prince being Prince. What is the big deal in saying "muthafuckin piece of pie" There aint none.

I wonder how the album would have been receieved as an independent release....both by critics and fans. If anything, New Power Soul should have been a hidden disc so that gems like this could get their proper dues nod

you couldn't play enough of me now to make me feel like a star.....Don't play me...I already do in my car". That is some smart shit worship
[Edited 4/6/06 15:10pm]

I don´t know. I never got into that album.
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Reply #54 posted 04/09/06 11:17am

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I LOVE "The Truth" album. I'm SHOCKED that nobody meantioned the song FASCINATION. Thats my cut. I love that whole album actually INCLUDING "Animal Kingdom." "Animal Kingdom" is reminiscent of "Starfish And Coffee" in its quirkiness. Actually, thats the one thing I'm missing from Prince now. His quirkiness and signature weirdness/inaccessibility. But I must agree with everyone else in saying that "the Truth" would've been embraced by the critics but woulda went of the heads of the average everyday consumer. O WELL..they shouldnt be so dumb...LOL!
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Reply #55 posted 04/09/06 11:44am

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LoveAlive said:

I LOVE "The Truth" album. I'm SHOCKED that nobody meantioned the song FASCINATION. Thats my cut. I love that whole album actually INCLUDING "Animal Kingdom." "Animal Kingdom" is reminiscent of "Starfish And Coffee" in its quirkiness. Actually, thats the one thing I'm missing from Prince now. His quirkiness and signature weirdness/inaccessibility. But I must agree with everyone else in saying that "the Truth" would've been embraced by the critics but woulda went of the heads of the average everyday consumer. O WELL..they shouldnt be so dumb...LOL!
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I love Fascination nod Fascination, One Of Your Tears, The Truth, Don't Play Me are my faves. The only song I skip on the whole album is Animal Kingdom...
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Reply #56 posted 04/09/06 12:01pm

LoveAlive

The lyrics to ONE OF YOUR TEARS is HILARIOUS!!!!! biggrin (used condom..) LOL
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Reply #57 posted 04/09/06 12:13pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

you couldn't play enough of me now to make me feel like a star.....Don't play me...I already do in my car". That is some smart shit worship
[Edited 4/6/06 15:10pm]


"Don't Play Me" is one of my favourites from Prince!

This album could still be released, I'm sure!
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Reply #58 posted 04/09/06 10:14pm

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cool
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #59 posted 04/21/06 12:34pm

Riverpoet31

Animal Kingdom is great in the way that it is an over-the-top Beatles / Lennon hommage, i just dig the effect on his voice in that song.

Being dutch, and english not being my first language, i have probably less problems with the lyrics of this song... according to most of you they are very corny / silly, but i just love that exaggerated, psychedelic, Lennonlike-effect on the vocals.
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