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Reality Check: Purple Ticket/#1 CD Scam Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. | |
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to run the promotion in the manner you suggest it's being run would be illegal.
Not that record companies don't do illegal things, like payola.. but I dispute your thoughts, that there are no purple tickets in the first 200,000 copies sold so far..someone may have it, but not be a member of this org | |
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i'm all for scam theories but I don't see how the album would
possibly sell 80,000 copies more than usually just because an awful lot of folks would buy multiple copies.  and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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I'm sorta wishing the purple ticket thing had ony been done through i-tunes and msn now , cos its just gonna be trotted out every time by the haters as an excuse why Prince's #1 position is bogus Check out Chocadelica , updated with Lotusflow3r and MPLSound album lyrics April 2nd 2009 :
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Look...If you have any sense of business you will do what ever it takes to make sure your product is #1. Janet or Michael will have huge million dollar videos, Madonna will kiss Brittany and etc. but if the album is wack it won't sell. 3121 sold 184,000 and it's number 1 and that’s it. I have been a die hard since '83 and I only bought one copy and I am sure a lot people did the same. Maybe people are interested in the album for the quality of the music not just the purple ticket. I find it so funny that people will find any reason to hate on Prince, just be happy that the boy is #1 again. How dumb do people sound when they say, "I’m not hating," what are you doing? Would it have been better if he sold it for $15.99, no promotion and no purple ticket? Then it would have said "Prince can't market anything right" and "he is so dumb for selling the album that high."
No beef - not directed at anyone - just my opinion Have a great weekend Peace Prime aka The Kid
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HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. I monitor the chart sales all the time and let it be known only one other album in 2006( its already 3months) opened with higher number in terms of sales!!! And that was becasue the singles werent released on itunes for that album!! otherwise i can possibly say that 3121 would have been the highest first week sales so far in 2006!! All new releases first week always sell at 9.99 do u live in a different planet?? There is no exception to this rule plus the number 2 album was sellin for less then $7 so ur argument isnt valid at all!!! Purple tickets didnt have much impact i think ok some ppl on the org did buy multiple copies but thats only the org and the numbers aint that big!! remeber musciology did first week retail sales of 177k so having abit over that number isnt far fetched i was thinking it would be more like 220k!! Yes four covers for MJ helped his sales but madonna also released 5 remixes of sorry!! The CD has been the talk on most other artist forums!! just go check that out plus by having 4 songs out b4 the release let the ppl know what they were buyin into that is smart marketing!! since some prince albums have been unpredictable Prince is gettin alot of love on the MJ forums whats wrong with the pretenders on here [Edited 4/1/06 10:24am] |
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moonshine said: I'm sorta wishing the purple ticket thing had ony been done through i-tunes and msn now , cos its just gonna be trotted out every time by the haters as an excuse why Prince's #1 position is bogus
well i registered for purple ticket thru BET i dont think many pppl even knew about this thing on BET i am posting it now because u had to register by last nite!! The chances of gettin purple tickets is only 1/ 107k if u bought the album!! They basically have 7 tickets in the first 750 albums and it expires in 2 weeks i think so thru album sales maybe only 2 tickets will be found by that date!! The chances thru BET is more like 1/1000 becasue most ppl didnt even know about it |
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asg said: I monitor the chart sales all the time and let it be known only one other album in 2006( its already 3months) opened with higher number in terms of sales!!!
Thankyou. Sales are down this year but people don't want to take that into consideration - they just want to isolate the numbers & then say they are a reflection of Prince's failing career. | |
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asg said: HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. I monitor the chart sales all the time and let it be known only one other album in 2006( its already 3months) opened with higher number in terms of sales!!! And that was becasue the singles werent released on itunes for that album!! otherwise i can possibly say that 3121 would have been the highest first week sales so far in 2006!! All new releases first week always sell at 9.99 do u live in a different planet?? There is no exception to this rule plus the number 2 album was sellin for less then $7 so ur argument isnt valid at all!!! Purple tickets didnt have much impact i think ok some ppl on the org did buy multiple copies but thats only the org and the numbers aint that big!! remeber musciology did first week retail sales of 177k so having abit over that number isnt far fetched i was thinking it would be more like 220k!! Yes four covers for MJ helped his sales but madonna also released 5 remixes of sorry!! The CD has been the talk on most other artist forums!! just go check that out plus by having 4 songs out b4 the release let the ppl know what they were buyin into that is smart marketing!! since some prince albums have been unpredictable Dudes. You're both missing the point entirely. So what if the Purple Ticket gimmick inflated sales? It means Prince is that compelling a live performer that fans are willing to buy up extra copies for a chance to see him. If Joe Noboby put out a record with the same gimmick he'd sell nothing. Don't hold it against Prince that he has tremendous pull and cache as a live act, and he parlayed that strength into album sales. Fair and square. Nothing dirty, underhanded, or dishonest about it. [Edited 4/1/06 9:50am] | |
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HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. Welcome to the wonderful world of Prince. You're right about that number not usually meaning a number one debut. Of course, one could also say that it's the continuing declining record industry slump too. I mean, both Limp Bizkit and Eminem "debuted" with album sales over 1 mil back in the day. You're also right about people buying multiple copies. I've read numberous posts here and at HQ about people buying more than one in hopes of finding some purple. I ain't hatin'. That's their right. I'm not sure how the ticket promotion is working, but anything is possible. Sorry...I meant "can we ban threads like these"?   • Did you first think Prince was gay? •
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HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. How is it hurting us that Prince debut at #1? Fans are individuals and it was THEIR CHOICE to buy multiple copies. As a fan I am aware that such purchases may have led to #1 but I am HAPPY to know that WE AS FANS had a part in it. What is wrong with that? How is this marketing strategy any different than artist and record companies spending millions of dollars on pre-sale promotions, hyping and trying to convince the audience to buy the cd. What about artists who make appearances to sign CD's to those who purchase early copies. Isn't that forcing people to go and buy. What is this "let's hate on Prince and 3121" campaign from people like you and others on this board? What the hell is going? [Edited 4/1/06 10:46am] | |
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HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. I think the purple ticket is a great idea (not shamless as you said). Come on don't be so negative like everbody else is in this generation (everything is bad, nothing is good "stop your bitchin"). |
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How incredibly sad is it that we, at a website dedicated to the guy, can't just be happy for him? We should all be celebrating and high fiving each other instead of thread after thread about how much of a scam the purple ticket thing is. | |
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wonder505 said: HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. How is it hurting us that Prince debut at #1? Fans are individuals and it was THEIR CHOICE to buy multiple copies. As a fan I am aware that such purchases may have led to #1 but I am HAPPY to know that WE AS FANS had a part in it. What is wrong with that? How is this marketing strategy any different than artist and record companies spending millions of dollars on pre-sale promotions, hyping and trying to convince the audience to buy the cd. What about artists who make appearances to sign CD's to those who purchase early copies. Isn't that forcing people to go and buy. What is this "let's hate on Prince and 3121" campaign from people like you and others on this board? What the hell is going? [Edited 4/1/06 10:46am] 
I still got four more copies to buy. | |
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Romera said: How incredibly sad is it that we, at a website dedicated to the guy, can't just be happy for him? We should all be celebrating and high fiving each other instead of thread after thread about how much of a scam the purple ticket thing is.
Personally, I think this person is a fraud who recently joined just to log on and hate on Prince. I mean, does he/she really think that's going to stop us from packing it in at the shows and continuing to buy his CDs. Give me break. [Edited 4/1/06 11:08am] | |
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HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. Reality Check, Who cares how and why it reached to #1. Quit assuming people bought it for a Purple ticket. Also did u Buy multiple copies? I didn't. | |
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Romera said: wonder505 said: How is it hurting us that Prince debut at #1? Fans are individuals and it was THEIR CHOICE to buy multiple copies. As a fan I am aware that such purchases may have led to #1 but I am HAPPY to know that WE AS FANS had a part in it. What is wrong with that? How is this marketing strategy any different than artist and record companies spending millions of dollars on pre-sale promotions, hyping and trying to convince the audience to buy the cd. What about artists who make appearances to sign CD's to those who purchase early copies. Isn't that forcing people to go and buy. What is this "let's hate on Prince and 3121" campaign from people like you and others on this board? What the hell is going? [Edited 4/1/06 10:46am]
I still got four more copies to buy. LOL! Me too!  | |
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HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. Also, many Prince fans are going to buy the album the day of the release. It's just something we do. We've been doing it for years. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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wonder505 said: Romera said: How incredibly sad is it that we, at a website dedicated to the guy, can't just be happy for him? We should all be celebrating and high fiving each other instead of thread after thread about how much of a scam the purple ticket thing is.
Personally, I think this person is a fraud who recently joined just to log on and hate on Prince. I mean, does he/she really think that's going to stop us from packing it in at the shows and continuing to buy his CDs. Give me break. [Edited 4/1/06 11:08am] | |
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SQUID!!!!
why are you hating SSSSOOO MMUUCCHH!!! your of course going to give me some statistical record about elvis, or some other loser who got no. 1 on some low number, RIGHT? | |
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HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. I wish I could care about what you wrote. I tried to, but it just wasn't important enough. Oh, well...I guess I'll have to break out the...  | |
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1999n3121 said: HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. I wish I could care about what you wrote. I tried to, but it just wasn't important enough. Oh, well...I guess I'll have to break out the... I don't care either. I don't care even a teeny tiny bit. I care so little about this thread I refuse to dignify it with a response. The amount of care I feel is so vanishingly small I'm not going to say another word. Cuz I don't care. At all. | |
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there should be a enforced monthly quota on threads of this sort, because there's been a total influx of 'em here as of late--even more than there usually is. i dunno if BPFS flare-up is going on because the weather's starting to warm up or what, but still... | |
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Purple Ticket or not, I would have bought a bunch of copies to give away anyway, the Purple Ticket is just a bonus for me...I don't mind winning it though... "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
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Most Albums sells are bought in multi- purchases, i buy records for my car; my home stereo; and for my son- est.You can not blame Prince/Universal for there promotional tactics, whatever sells. | |
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wonder505 said: HomeSquid said: Look I dig "3121" It's his best record in some time but it's time for a reality check. It's not that special that "3121" debuted at number 1. Firstly it ONLY sold some 183,000 copies. It had very little competition. Normally a total like that would not grab #1. Also it was sold at ridiculously low prices of $9.99!! Universal did everything legally possible to get that record to #1
PLUS one of the main reasons it sold THAT many is that so many of you bought multiple copies!! You were hoping you'd grab this Purple Ticket thing but you should've KNOWN that there wouldn't be any in the first 200 to 300,000 copies of "3121". I mean c'mon that would end this shameless gimmick way too soon and stop the fantatics from buying superfluous copies of the disc! Similar to how Michael jackson fans bought 5 copies of "Invincible" becuase it had different color covers! Puh-lease! Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. How is it hurting us that Prince debut at #1? Fans are individuals and it was THEIR CHOICE to buy multiple copies. As a fan I am aware that such purchases may have led to #1 but I am HAPPY to know that WE AS FANS had a part in it. What is wrong with that? How is this marketing strategy any different than artist and record companies spending millions of dollars on pre-sale promotions, hyping and trying to convince the audience to buy the cd. What about artists who make appearances to sign CD's to those who purchase early copies. Isn't that forcing people to go and buy. What is this "let's hate on Prince and 3121" campaign from people like you and others on this board? What the hell is going? [Edited 4/1/06 10:46am] They like to hate on P. If this CD had no promotion or contest it would be some other excuse as to debuting at #1. | |
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rainbowchild said: Purple Ticket or not, I would have bought a bunch of copies to give away anyway, the Purple Ticket is just a bonus for me...I don't mind winning it though...
Exactly, I gave away two copies. One to my Aunt who was interested after she heard me playing it in my car, and other one went to her daughter, who is not so much into Prince, but is totally feeling The Word, Incense and Candles and Get on the Boat. | |
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vainandy said: Look, I ain't hatin'. Like I said I think "3121" is pretty close to great but all this Prince worship is overboard. Also, many Prince fans are going to buy the album the day of the release. It's just something we do. We've been doing it for years. exactly!!!! |
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I wish I could care about what you wrote. I tried to, but it just wasn't important enough. Oh, well...I guess I'll have to break out the...
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silly goose. You cared enough to write a reply... | |
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