this who thread is an attempt by the originator to feel validated for liking michael jackson. doveoflove is getting aroused seeing how many looks at this thread, and how many responses it is generating. Find some other toy to play with, dove. the rolling stones tried to sound sargeant pepperesque when they recorded Satanic Majesties Request. Big freaking deal. Michael is relevant only to his die hard fans these days. he ran away to dubai, a sand pit with oil. they tolerate child molesters there. why don't you mention that in your post? how michael "served warm milk and cookies to young boys in bed...it's charming" took the innocence away from young boys?
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PurpleRein said: this who thread is an attempt by the originator to feel validated for liking michael jackson. doveoflove is getting aroused seeing how many looks at this thread, and how many responses it is generating. Find some other toy to play with, dove. the rolling stones tried to sound sargeant pepperesque when they recorded Satanic Majesties Request. Big freaking deal. Michael is relevant only to his die hard fans these days. he ran away to dubai, a sand pit with oil. they tolerate child molesters there. why don't you mention that in your post? how michael "served warm milk and cookies to young boys in bed...it's charming" took the innocence away from young boys?
Coming soon from Epic Records..Gary Glitter and Michael Jackson.."He's so fine" That is the biggest load of BS I've ever heard. It's because of people like you, saying shit like that, that he moved to Bahrain (not Dubai, you idiot). You try living in a country where your home has been defiled by the police and media and your personal life unvailed to the whole public. Try living in a country that treats you like shit. You'd flee the place like a dog shot in the arse. Anyone with half a brain can work out that after a life of slavery to the music industry, an industry that robbed Michael Jackson of any normal childhood experiences, that the only pure thing he could continue to believe in is the spirit of children. If you've seen his results, read his interviews (and I mean actual interviews, not the snippets that tabloids like to parade off or take out of context), or simply examined his background, you'd realize that Michael Jackson wants to be a kid; not molest them, you nong. What's beautiful about what Michael Jackson does and who he is, is that after years of transforming himself into the person he aspired to be (Peter Pan, the boy who never grew up) he eventually came to recognize what had been done to him, and sought to give children who were also deprived of a childhood, the brief opportunity to be a kid again. What's sad then, is that it's this kind hearted nature that got him into trouble. The child molestation accusations made against have come from him inviting unfortunate children to Neverland. Both allegations made against Michael Jackson came from families who had a history of suing institutions and people for the attempt at quick cash, and in the recent court case, it was the mother who filed the claim, the mother who made the allegations, and the child who denied it. If Michael Jackson was a pedophile, randomly snatching up children from his Neverland ranch for sex, why would he only want the children who are terminally ill? Are you suggesting that's some sort of fetish which he has? If Michael Jackson was a pedophile, wouldn't you think that out of the countless thousands who have spent time at Neverland, the child actors who befriended Michael, and the various children Michael visited on each and every continent, that more than two allegations would be made? Think about this logically. Pedophilia is a condition in which the pedophile is statistically prone to continual and repeat offences, often molesting each and every child they adore dozens of times, and not a single lone incident, as many of you seem to believe. If Michael Jackson was a pedophile, to suggest that out of a figure as small as one thousand children he had been around, that he would only try to molest two, and both of those two were only molested once, is not only statistically uncharacteristic of a pedophile, it's almost completely unheard of. And before you respond with 'there's more, they just aren't coming forward', statistically more than 2 would come forward, so don't even start on those grounds. Now take into account that Michael Jackson has not been around a 1000 kids in his charity efforts. He has been around tens of thousands, and a large amount of those children were able to visit Neverland. Once again the statistical odds of lone molestation occurring to two children and two children only is nearly impossible. In my opinion, a good deal of you are just fucking idiots who tune into the local station, hear a brief audio excerpt about sleeping in a bed with a child, pervert it with your mind, and do not consider the context, the background, or the beliefs of the person responding to the questions. Just another example of how the media shapes close minded idiots. [Edited 3/28/06 5:45am] | |
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thedoveoflove said: I really like 3121 and I think in many way Prince is trying sound even more the Michael Jackson on a few tracks.
Incense And Candles Love The Word and The Dance These songs especially sound to me like MJ songs. My god with MJ's Vocals on these they would be Killer. Some people are so goddamned stupid. | |
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sacredwarrior said: MickG said: I hope not, because Jackson is as Hollow as a empty can of Jesus Juice. in your opinion nah mine too. | |
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DarlingDiana said: If Michael Jackson was a pedophile, randomly snatching up children from his Neverland ranch for sex, why would he only want the children who are terminally ill? They're easier to lure. That MJ's smart, he tells him he has a cure in his pants. | |
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calldapplwondery83 said: Then check it out. It's on 'Invincible', feat. Santana on guitar and whistling.
I have invincible...don't rememner it but I suppose Id better check it out if its as good as Prince | |
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purpledoveuk said: calldapplwondery83 said: Then check it out. It's on 'Invincible', feat. Santana on guitar and whistling.
I have invincible...don't rememner it but I suppose Id better check it out if its as good as Prince It's a great album, and Whatever Happens is such a damn good song. I wouldn't say it's as good as Prince because I can't think of many Prince songs that sound like WH. [Edited 3/28/06 5:45am] | |
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DarlingDiana said: 3121 is very Michaelish. Alot of people think that. Not only Prince and MJ fans but neautral music lovers who bought 3121. Prince has such a hard on for MJ and it shows on 3121. I wouldn't blame him, MJ is one super-talented mofo and every R&B/pop even rock musicians are inspired by what he's created over the last 30-odd years.
Also, I have to say this. I am sick of people putting down MJ's recent work. The common argument is that MJ hasn't done anything great since 1991 (i.e. the Dangerous LP). Well download some of these tunes and then tell me if you still think he hasn't made good music since the Dangerous album: Stranger In Moscow (1995, HIStory) Earth Song (1995, HIStory) Childhood (1995, HIStory) 2 Bad (1995, HIStory) Blood on the Dance Floor (1997, Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory In The Mix) Morphine (1997, Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory In The Mix) Ghosts (1997, Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory In The Mix) compare to the chorus of "The Word Is It Scary (1997, Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory In The Mix) Break of Dawn (2001, Invincible) You Rock My World (2001, Invincible) Butterflies (2001, Invincible) Whatever Happens (2001, Invincible) Shout (2001, Cry b-side) Xscape (2003, unreleased) f'in brilliant, definately check it out! The Way You Love Me (2004, The Ultimate Collection) We've Had Enough (2004, The Ultimate Collection) Ofcourse the above is just my personal taste, but most tracks are good and widely regarded as good. Just give the above mentioned tracks a chance and see if you change your mind about MJ's post-Dangerous music. [Edited 3/28/06 3:38am] [Edited 3/28/06 3:40am] As you say its just your personal taste and that counts for everything when it come sto likes and dislikes (It would be boring if the whole world was the same) - its interesting because, on your list, I would say that everything you named illustrates exactly why Jackosn is a joke right now (except You Rock My World)...it's Jackson at his most frantic and paniced trying to hit the right auience that will get him back in the game with Madonna and Prince. Earth Song is a shallow joke from Jacko..if for one minute you could believe that he actually cared about teh environemnt an animals it might be plausible. Childhood - same old, same old...poor Michael,such a hard childhood - he's becoming like Eminem..only able to talk about one subject anyway so on and so on But its just opinion....Dont get me wrong Im not a 'its got to be MJ or Prince' person....I can admit that Prince had lost his way big time but he calmed down, got over himself and got back on track...Jacko seems so wrapped up in himself that he's lost any sense of what he is meant to me. To the world he's a child loving freak who used to make good music...it wouldn't be so bad if he was a freaky musician who loved children - at least he's have a plus-side | |
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bunnyman said: DarlingDiana said: If Michael Jackson was a pedophile, randomly snatching up children from his Neverland ranch for sex, why would he only want the children who are terminally ill? They're easier to lure. That MJ's smart, he tells him he has a cure in his pants. How do you know this? How do you know that MJ tells him he has a cure in his pants? Actually, what I really want to know is how the hell you know that terminally ill children are easier to lure. See, if I did what the media did to MJ and take things you've said out of context, I could make you look like a pedophile. If I tell people bunnyman said terminally ill children are "easier to lure", I could make you look like such a damn child molester. | |
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purpledoveuk said: Earth Song is a shallow joke from Jacko..if for one minute you could believe that he actually cared about teh environemnt an animals it might be plausible. Hmmm, I do. | |
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purpledoveuk said: As you say its just your personal taste and that counts for everything when it come sto likes and dislikes (It would be boring if the whole world was the same) - its interesting because, on your list, I would say that everything you named illustrates exactly why Jackosn is a joke right now (except You Rock My World)...it's Jackson at his most frantic and paniced trying to hit the right auience that will get him back in the game with Madonna and Prince.
How do those songs ilustrate why Jackson is a joke? Those songs are brilliant. The stand out is Stranger In Moscow, listen to that (if you haven't), great song. And Madonna? Are you serious? She's gone all sample crazy, wearing leotards, trying to revive a 30 year old craze (disco), and she's not a joke? I really don't see how good music can be seen as frantic and paniced. Listen to the damn music and stop trying to think he's trying to fit in or some shit. He created what is the current music scene. He doesn't need to fit into it, he is it. purpledoveuk said: Earth Song is a shallow joke from Jacko..if for one minute you could believe that he actually cared about teh environemnt an animals it might be plausible.
Man, I just love the screaming at the end. That's some instense vocals! Love it. Anyway, I do think he cares about the environment and animals, he's given millions to organisations that help the environment and endangered animals and stuff like that. purpledoveuk said: Childhood - same old, same old...poor Michael,such a hard childhood - he's becoming like Eminem..only able to talk about one subject
I think it's beautiful, and actually it's the only song where he's ever sung about a lost childhood. It such a beautiful compostion and I'm yet to hear anything like this from Madonna. All hung up on Abba samples, can't write a tune to save herself. purpledoveuk said: anyway so on and so on But its just opinion....Dont get me wrong Im not a 'its got to be MJ or Prince' person....I can admit that Prince had lost his way big time but he calmed down, got over himself and got back on track...Jacko seems so wrapped up in himself that he's lost any sense of what he is meant to me. To the world he's a child loving freak who used to make good music...it wouldn't be so bad if he was a freaky musician who loved children - at least he's have a plus-side That because the world are noobs who are impressionable and are like bloody sheep who follow the majority. MJ doesn't need the world to verify that he still makes good music, because the simple, plain fact is that he has made good music since Dangerous. Anyway, if you want verification, is the 8 million who bought Invincible good enough for you? | |
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That because the world are noobs who are impressionable and are like bloody sheep who follow the majority. MJ doesn't need the world to verify that he still makes good music, because the simple, plain fact is that he has made good music since Dangerous. Anyway, if you want verification, is the 8 million who bought Invincible good enough for you?[/quote]
You guys that are stuck on sales are pretty clueless. Do you understand marketing? Mj is the king of marketing.....that does not mean that the music is any good. I like MJ but comparing him to Prince from a music standpoint is a bit much. It's like comparing a nice Chevy (MJ) to an Aston Martin. It just doesn't make sense. | |
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MickG said: sacredwarrior said: i agree but Prince will never be able to get MJ's vibe down . I hope not, because Jackson is as Hollow as a empty can of Jesus Juice. Holy Shit! I agree with MickG! somebody write that down. "not a fan" yeah...ok | |
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DarlingDiana said: bunnyman said: They're easier to lure. That MJ's smart, he tells him he has a cure in his pants. How do you know this? How do you know that MJ tells him he has a cure in his pants? Actually, what I really want to know is how the hell you know that terminally ill children are easier to lure. See, if I did what the media did to MJ and take things you've said out of context, I could make you look like a pedophile. If I tell people bunnyman said terminally ill children are "easier to lure", I could make you look like such a damn child molester. Aint you read MJ's biography he reveals it in there! "I like the terminally ill ones, and they like my pants". OUuuuuutttt. | |
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Are you kidding? Is it me are we both listening to the same album? When is the last time Michael Jackson actually had a decent single out? Was it mid 80's or early 80's? I seem to have already forgotten. None of the songs on 3121 sounds like Michael Jackson to me. | |
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Graycap23 said: This does not even deserve a response. Prince is the number 1 MUSICIAN on the planet. MJ is not even a musician so what are we talking about here?
Graycap..you and I have had our differences, but damn if I dont agree WHOLEHARDEDLY with your post. MJ's career and influence is "DEAD LIKE ELVIS".!!! "If you wanna feel the FUNK....then you have to know the SOUL!!!"-----(Up and Down...just like a seesaw, Back and Forth...oh girl I'm fallin) | |
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NPGman said: Graycap23 said: This does not even deserve a response. Prince is the number 1 MUSICIAN on the planet. MJ is not even a musician so what are we talking about here?
Graycap..you and I have had our differences, but damn if I dont agree WHOLEHARDEDLY with your post. MJ's career and influence is "DEAD LIKE ELVIS".!!! But u are still cool with me. Dig? | |
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Graycap23 said: NPGman said: Graycap..you and I have had our differences, but damn if I dont agree WHOLEHARDEDLY with your post. MJ's career and influence is "DEAD LIKE ELVIS".!!! But u are still cool with me. Dig? Understand Bruthaman. Its the NPG flow, We all understand that. "If you wanna feel the FUNK....then you have to know the SOUL!!!"-----(Up and Down...just like a seesaw, Back and Forth...oh girl I'm fallin) | |
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NPGman said: Graycap23 said: But u are still cool with me. Dig? Understand Bruthaman. Its the NPG flow, We all understand that. It's all good. | |
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Really?
It's like saying that I can here The Smiths on the record..... Oh I can! Try not to put labels on things people! Live life and be happy | |
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Prince is a quiet safe guy, that the Music Industry can feel safe in investing in. Do we ever hear of Prince cancelling Tours, Shows, Etc. No! or... YES! | |
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MickG said: sacredwarrior said: i agree but Prince will never be able to get MJ's vibe down . I hope not, because Jackson is as Hollow as a empty can of Jesus Juice. LOL @ as Hollow as a empty can of Jesus Juice. | |
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I love Michael too but this CD nor has any Prince CD EVER has sounded like Michael Jackson.....not ever ever! | |
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