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Thread started 03/05/06 9:39am

FrancerulzV99

Diamonds & Pearls is P's most under-rated album...

Diamonds & Pearls (1991)

© Randee St Nicholas


Though many fail to agree, I believe that D & P is in Prince's Top 5 Greatest Albums...Let's take a look shall we?

In response to the failed "Graffiti Bridge" (both the album and movie), and to compete with the mainstream hip-hop at the time, Prince released "Diamonds & Pearls" a significantly hip-hop album. It was also the first credited album to the New Power Generation. The album features many great songs, such as the title track, "Cream," "Gett Off," and a heavily under-rated song "Insatiable." But enough of the known, I think that the reason that this album is so great is that it was such a new experience for Prince and his fans. Instead of relying on an in-studio sound full of synthesizer work and a drum machine, Prince relies more on live, urban-sounding drums and a deeper voice. Oh yes, let's not forget the introduction of Tony M. (he was cool, give him a break will you?).
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Reply #1 posted 03/05/06 9:49am

Anx

this album gets a pass for "gett off", "thunder" and "willing and able"...but there's some nausey stuff on there too.
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Reply #2 posted 03/05/06 9:52am

CCCP

I like half of D & P but the other half is not good att all.. Songs like Jughead, Walk don't walk, Daddy pop & Push sounds bad 2 me.. But the realy good songs on D & P is Gett Off, Diamonds & pearls, Cream, Thunder, Insatiable & Live 4 Love.. I like prince alot better than D & P smoker
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Reply #3 posted 03/05/06 9:52am

Thibaut

Strollin', Diamonds and pearls and Money don't matter tonight is the best stuff on there.

Daddy pop and Gett of are cool 2.
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Reply #4 posted 03/05/06 9:57am

dewalliz

I think that D&P is a great album compared to the other stuff he released in the 90s besides Gold Experience. I like Gett Off, Money DOn't matter tonight, and Cream. Those three songs that I mentioned received a lot of airplay in my local station and also those three songs along made me not only started to take notice of Prince but also became a fan.
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Reply #5 posted 03/05/06 10:03am

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I think this album is great - I mean, its got Gett off, Cream, Willing and Able is FANTASTIC, and I absolutely LOVE Live 4 Love...Dont ask me why - I just do.. hmmm
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Reply #6 posted 03/05/06 10:06am

camilleisfunky

It would have been an amazing album without Push, Jughead and Tony M's crap...i meant without Tony M's rap, sorry
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Reply #7 posted 03/05/06 10:50am

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Certainly is very underrated, and it's one of the very best!
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Reply #8 posted 03/05/06 11:07am

CuntOMatic

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Yeah, the record that introduced the absolute genious of TONY FUCKIN M to the world. eek lol
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Reply #9 posted 03/05/06 11:13am

metalorange

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Under-rated, and yet I remember at the time it got great reviews and is Prince's second best selling album, selling around 6 million. Who'd have thought the guy that did the rock album Purple Rain would do a hip-hop/funk album like D&P? But it's probably looked back on less fondly because the sound was very much rooted in that time and thus had dated somewhat.
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Reply #10 posted 03/05/06 12:18pm

Anx

i think of it as his vegas album. which has good and bad connotations for me. it was the first step to the tim burton-esque excesses that was his come/gold phase...and as much as i'm glad he moved past it (he did NOT seem healthy or happy at all), i love that era to pieces for how out-there he would go.
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Reply #11 posted 03/05/06 12:31pm

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It's overrated to me; underrated are Come and NPS.
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Reply #12 posted 03/05/06 6:12pm

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Anx said:

i think of it as his vegas album. which has good and bad connotations for me. it was the first step to the tim burton-esque excesses that was his come/gold phase...and as much as i'm glad he moved past it (he did NOT seem healthy or happy at all), i love that era to pieces for how out-there he would go.




I don't know why, but i totally understand why you call it the Vegas album. Its a little too glitzy, a little too made up w/stuff that seems to just beg for attention.

I loved Gett Off, Insatiable, Live4Love, and thunder. Besides that shrug

Tony M. should be drawn and quartered-- with a pubic hair plucked out per every wack bar he put on there. I don't know-- being a fan of rap-- it just hurts.
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Reply #13 posted 03/05/06 9:12pm

warning2all

rainbowchild said:

It's overrated to me; underrated are Come and NPS.



Totally agree. NPS and Come were eccentric, quirky, dark, and unique to Prince.


("Cream" is a lift of "Bang a Gong".)


This was a back-to-basics general-audience album, not why many people who were Prince fans were fans. And those non-fans who bought the album didn't stick around for the next album.
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Reply #14 posted 03/06/06 2:21am

metalorange

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warning2all said:

This was a back-to-basics general-audience album, not why many people who were Prince fans were fans. And those non-fans who bought the album didn't stick around for the next album.


Was D&P really a 'back-to-basics' album? It is always easy to say that Prince was going for the commercial market AFTER an album has been a success, but it was a new sound for Prince and there was no guarantee at the time that it wouldn't turn people off. I remember a review of the original DJ only promo of Gett Off and it said that this song would never be released to the general public because of the risky lyrics! Cream also has risky suggestive lyrics, yes it's a homage to T-Rex's 'Get It On' as was noted by many critics at the time, but better to rip-off a fantastic song than a poor obscure one!

The inclusion of rap and the general sound of the album was like nothing that Prince had done before, although you can see it was an extension of some songs from Graffiti Bridge and the vibe of the Nude Tour, so I don't know how it could be called back-to-basics. Back-to-basics would be doing Purple Rain 2. It was Prince experimenting with a new sound and it so happened to be successful.

But I do agree with you that non-fans didn't stick around for the Symbol album. I think that really was a combination of releasing it too soon after D&P, calling it an unpronounceable symbol, and pushing it too far with the ego-centric pounding rhythms and even more outlandish lyrics of My Name Is Prince and SexyMF as singles. The actual album, as most of us agree, has lots of good stuff on it, it just wasn't presented very well at the time.
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Reply #15 posted 03/06/06 1:54pm

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I think this is one of the best of the 90s. I like the whole album. Certainly underrated, because of a certain rapper.
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Reply #16 posted 03/06/06 2:08pm

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Anx said:

this album gets a pass for "gett off", "thunder" and "willing and able"...but there's some nausey stuff on there too.


yeah like Thunder falloff
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Reply #17 posted 03/06/06 6:32pm

ndigo

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Live 4 Love- is one of my all time favorites. We can only speculate what may have happened if he had left Tony M OFF D&P....
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Reply #18 posted 03/06/06 9:44pm

doctamario

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Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid.
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Reply #19 posted 03/06/06 10:36pm

nurse

I love "Diamond and Pearls" and the title track is my most favorite Prince song of all time wink .
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Reply #20 posted 03/07/06 12:25am

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This album is in my top 5!!
When I joined the Org,I was really shocked that a lot of
P-fans don't consider it that way.

I mean,this album IS so Prince,it combines all of the genres he has always done,
including Hiphop 4 the first time.

All time fav tracks:Get Off,Cream,Willing & Able,Money don't matter,
Live4Love,D&P.
Good tracks:Thunder,Daddy Pop.

The 90's albums:D&P, prince and TGE could easely compete with his 80's work.
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Reply #21 posted 03/07/06 12:36am

PurpleKnight

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It's okay. Just okay.

Some of it is a little phony, pandering, and forced.

It's obvious that after Graffiti Bridge bombed, Prince simply wanted this to be a hit.

That at least meant for some catchy singles. Cream is a perfect pop song with a clever double entendre, Gett Off has an irresistable bassline and a great chorus, Money Don't Matter 2 Nite is breezy and melodic, Insatiable is genuinely sensuous, and Diamonds and Pearls is a great guilty pleasure.

Some of the other songs are ruined by Prince catering to the hip hop craze, except with a talentless rapper. Take Live 4 Love for example. It's an enjoyable stand-out track with passionate vocals and reasonable power, and then Tony M. makes an unnecessary appearance and vomits all over the song.

Let's also not forget that this album is home to, arguably, the worst Prince song of all time (Jughead).

Diamonds and Pearls is mostly a mediocre album that's helped by the fact that it was made at a time when Prince could still write great pop hits.
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