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Printableprettymansson said: ITS ALL ABOUT FRED G SANFORD !!!!!
Prince wouldnt be fonky without the fred in him...IF YA NEED TO ASK U ARE TOO YOUNG TO UNDERSTAND ! Son, it's about Sanford and JJ from Good Times, can we humble on that?  | |
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ReverendHubert said: GoldenGlove said: Chill, handcrapz like to annoy pepps. Alright, I'm chilled, and really...this wasn't meant 2 b a racial vibe. I was genuinely, really wondering. Judging from the comments received, I can see that others have also had similiar thoughts and considered the matter. I admit also, that it must be difficult having 2 consider all the vibes out in the world and having 2 satisfy so many different tastes...musically for Prince that is. Since I've also listened 2 him since before '84, I've always wondered what made him tick. In one of his videos, Rasberry Beret, there's a graffiti piece spray painted that says "Africa divided." At that time, who would have thought Prince gave a rat's ass about Africa. Peace ya'll. Essentially Prince was very conservative. An 80s Reaganite, Republican representing the greedy get rich quick selfishness of the day. Not convinced he'd care about or feel much kinship with Africa, prefering to protest in Hello after shunning USA For Africa that "There's just as much hunger here at HOME". Glug, glug like a mug | |
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wasitgood4u said: altavista said: Amen. He is totally black-ing it up these days. Let's not get it twisted. As I posted some weeks ago.. back in the day, folks were like.. "where's all the Black people at, y'all?" ... I'm African American and the other kids would say, "I don't know why you're clocking him.. he ain't hardly into no Black girls"... and on and on... So, nobody's saying he's hasn't embraced his love and respect for Black music and his place in it... the way you present yourself is a whole 'nother other... For example, there is absolutely no way in hell Prince would have promoted a Tamar back in the day... Right now, it's cool to be Black in all aspects of American culture.. that wasn't truee 20 yrs ago when he stepped up... I'm just saying.. y'all can hate on me if you want to... What was Vanity, a reverse albino????? Mark Fuhrman thought so.  Glug, glug like a mug | |
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SpecialEd said: ReverendHubert said: Alright, I'm chilled, and really...this wasn't meant 2 b a racial vibe. I was genuinely, really wondering. Judging from the comments received, I can see that others have also had similiar thoughts and considered the matter. I admit also, that it must be difficult having 2 consider all the vibes out in the world and having 2 satisfy so many different tastes...musically for Prince that is. Since I've also listened 2 him since before '84, I've always wondered what made him tick. In one of his videos, Rasberry Beret, there's a graffiti piece spray painted that says "Africa divided." At that time, who would have thought Prince gave a rat's ass about Africa. Peace ya'll. Essentially Prince was very conservative. An 80s Reaganite, Republican representing the greedy get rich quick selfishness of the day. Not convinced he'd care about or feel much kinship with Africa, prefering to protest in Hello after shunning USA For Africa that "There's just as much hunger here at HOME". exactly, that's the thing. so, what we r observing is something new...let's say since TRC. i'm not sure about b 4. | |
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altavista said: ReverendHubert said: Prince has always been aware of his ability to provoke thought and action related to the African-American cause <<< I don't agree w/ u 100%. I have some black friends who said they would have liked 2 have slapped Prince back in the day 4 his representations (on non), or treatment of Black people his videos. Perhaps he is having a natural awakening about his roots. Amen. He is totally black-ing it up these days. Let's not get it twisted. As I posted some weeks ago.. back in the day, folks were like.. "where's all the Black people at, y'all?" ... I'm African American and the other kids would say, "I don't know why you're clocking him.. he ain't hardly into no Black girls"... and on and on... So, nobody's saying he's hasn't embraced his love and respect for Black music and his place in it... the way you present yourself is a whole 'nother other... For example, there is absolutely no way in hell Prince would have promoted a Tamar back in the day... Right now, it's cool to be Black in all aspects of American culture.. that wasn't truee 20 yrs ago when he stepped up... I'm just saying.. y'all can hate on me if you want to... No hate coming from this way. 
Whether folks want to believe it or not, Prince has always played the race game. Those were conscious decisions that he made to have his band and side projects look a certain way. Now that he is swaying to the other side, he is catching flack for it. During the Musicology tour someone posted in the concert forum that they did not understand why Prince, who is a black man, only selected black women to come up on the stage  ...Prince, a black man that you would be hardpressed to find any NON bi-racial Black women in his circle, for the first 10 years of his career. And the bull about there not being many black people in Minnesota ain't flying with me.  | |
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ReverendHubert said: prettymansson said: ITS ALL ABOUT FRED G SANFORD !!!!!
Prince wouldnt be fonky without the fred in him...IF YA NEED TO ASK U ARE TOO YOUNG TO UNDERSTAND ! Son, it's about Sanford and JJ from Good Times, can we humble on that? WE GOT A DEAL !!!! | |
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PurpleCharm said: altavista said: Amen. He is totally black-ing it up these days. Let's not get it twisted. As I posted some weeks ago.. back in the day, folks were like.. "where's all the Black people at, y'all?" ... I'm African American and the other kids would say, "I don't know why you're clocking him.. he ain't hardly into no Black girls"... and on and on... So, nobody's saying he's hasn't embraced his love and respect for Black music and his place in it... the way you present yourself is a whole 'nother other... For example, there is absolutely no way in hell Prince would have promoted a Tamar back in the day... Right now, it's cool to be Black in all aspects of American culture.. that wasn't truee 20 yrs ago when he stepped up... I'm just saying.. y'all can hate on me if you want to... No hate coming from this way.
Whether folks want to believe it or not, Prince has always played the race game. Those were conscious decisions that he made to have his band and side projects look a certain way. Now that he is swaying to the other side, he is catching flack for it. During the Musicology tour someone posted in the concert forum that they did not understand why Prince, who is a black man, only selected black women to come up on the stage ...Prince, a black man that you would be hardpressed to find any NON bi-racial Black women in his circle, for the first 10 years of his career. And the bull about there not being many black people in Minnesota ain't flying with me. Wow, good thread. Everybody seems to have this subject in perspective. I would add this. P enjoys being contrary and doing the opposite of what people expect. Hes matured since the 80s. Also the Warner Brothers wars really gave him a moment of clarity. | |
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PurpleCharm said: altavista said: Amen. He is totally black-ing it up these days. Let's not get it twisted. As I posted some weeks ago.. back in the day, folks were like.. "where's all the Black people at, y'all?" ... I'm African American and the other kids would say, "I don't know why you're clocking him.. he ain't hardly into no Black girls"... and on and on... So, nobody's saying he's hasn't embraced his love and respect for Black music and his place in it... the way you present yourself is a whole 'nother other... For example, there is absolutely no way in hell Prince would have promoted a Tamar back in the day... Right now, it's cool to be Black in all aspects of American culture.. that wasn't truee 20 yrs ago when he stepped up... I'm just saying.. y'all can hate on me if you want to... No hate coming from this way.
Whether folks want to believe it or not, Prince has always played the race game. Those were conscious decisions that he made to have his band and side projects look a certain way. Now that he is swaying to the other side, he is catching flack for it. During the Musicology tour someone posted in the concert forum that they did not understand why Prince, who is a black man, only selected black women to come up on the stage ...Prince, a black man that you would be hardpressed to find any NON bi-racial Black women in his circle, for the first 10 years of his career. And the bull about there not being many black people in Minnesota ain't flying with me. I will agree 100% with this and I'd like to add that Prince seems to have grown a bit since his kid passed away. I believe he may have re-evaluated who he is to some degree and what he really stands for. When he decided that he was not going to "curse" anymore, I took that as the first sign that he was looking at who he really is. Just my 2 cents. | |
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SpecialEd said: Well duh. He has a lot of ground to make up. From claiming white parents in interviews, a white mother in Purple Rain and as Spike Lee complained about the disturbing shunning of black women in his Pailsey world. This was when the world had their eyes on him too and he never represented his roots.
Since the NPG, Gold Nigga, "Slave", Exodus, When Will We B Paid, Avalanche, Family Name... was a long journey to where we could imagine a Prince girl/protege like Tamar. In fact The Revolution complained about Wally and Brookes, hated having them around seeing them as token black buddies. Which perhaps they were. That seems like the start of Prince's public identity as an African-American. Prince has 2 sides and they are both friends. Black! parents that is. | |
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come on people, get real ...
the mixed band thing was as much about honoring/aping Sly and the Family Stone as much as it was a marketing mechanism to get him a broader audience. And, I might add, at the time both worked extremely well. It had nothing to do with what he really believed. Also, as a walking legend with nothing to lose, he can indulge whatever altruistic whims he so desires, instead of the pressure of generating sales and being a company man as he was back then. Plus he was younger and dummer, less world experience. On another note, by your reasoning, you guys would conclude that he had a thing for older large black women since he liked working with Chaka, Mavis, Rosie, Boni, and Patty ... | |
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shayde said: come on people, get real ...
the mixed band thing was as much about honoring/aping Sly and the Family Stone as much as it was a marketing mechanism to get him a broader audience. And, I might add, at the time both worked extremely well. It had nothing to do with what he really believed. Also, as a walking legend with nothing to lose, he can indulge whatever altruistic whims he so desires, instead of the pressure of generating sales and being a company man as he was back then. Plus he was younger and dummer, less world experience. On another note, by your reasoning, you guys would conclude that he had a thing for older large black women since he liked working with Chaka, Mavis, Rosie, Boni, and Patty ... True. | |
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SpecialEd said: ReverendHubert said: Alright, I'm chilled, and really...this wasn't meant 2 b a racial vibe. I was genuinely, really wondering. Judging from the comments received, I can see that others have also had similiar thoughts and considered the matter. I admit also, that it must be difficult having 2 consider all the vibes out in the world and having 2 satisfy so many different tastes...musically for Prince that is. Since I've also listened 2 him since before '84, I've always wondered what made him tick. In one of his videos, Rasberry Beret, there's a graffiti piece spray painted that says "Africa divided." At that time, who would have thought Prince gave a rat's ass about Africa. Peace ya'll. Essentially Prince was very conservative. An 80s Reaganite, Republican representing the greedy get rich quick selfishness of the day. Not convinced he'd care about or feel much kinship with Africa, prefering to protest in Hello after shunning USA For Africa that "There's just as much hunger here at HOME". Really??? Prince was "very conservative"...an 80's Reaganite Republican representing the greedy get rich quick selfishness of the day".... Do you know what..what are you ALL looking for from Prince?? A completely flawless human being. Do YOU actually know Prince's background? You know EVERYTHING about his upbringing? You know exactly what makes him tick??? Because he's black therefore he should have this black consciousness. And what EXACTLY is that ?? If he's not with black women then it must mean he's shunning them. If he sings a song about poverty in America then he OBVIOUSOLY doesn't care about Africa. WHO are you to say who and what Prince cares about? I should imagine that only he knows that. Shut up already, damn. | |
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pepper7 said: SpecialEd said: Essentially Prince was very conservative. An 80s Reaganite, Republican representing the greedy get rich quick selfishness of the day. Not convinced he'd care about or feel much kinship with Africa, prefering to protest in Hello after shunning USA For Africa that "There's just as much hunger here at HOME". Really??? Prince was "very conservative"...an 80's Reaganite Republican representing the greedy get rich quick selfishness of the day".... Do you know what..what are you ALL looking for from Prince?? A completely flawless human being. Do YOU actually know Prince's background? You know EVERYTHING about his upbringing? You know exactly what makes him tick??? Because he's black therefore he should have this black consciousness. And what EXACTLY is that ?? If he's not with black women then it must mean he's shunning them. If he sings a song about poverty in America then he OBVIOUSOLY doesn't care about Africa. WHO are you to say who and what Prince cares about? I should imagine that only he knows that. Okay but in interviews and lyrics he at least gave the appearance of the above. Whatever the hidden beliefs may in fact be. Glug, glug like a mug | |
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shayde said: come on people, get real ...
the mixed band thing was as much about honoring/aping Sly and the Family Stone as much as it was a marketing mechanism to get him a broader audience. And, I might add, at the time both worked extremely well. It had nothing to do with what he really believed. Also, as a walking legend with nothing to lose, he can indulge whatever altruistic whims he so desires, instead of the pressure of generating sales and being a company man as he was back then. Plus he was younger and dummer, less world experience. On another note, by your reasoning, you guys would conclude that he had a thing for older large black women since he liked working with Chaka, Mavis, Rosie, Boni, and Patty ... Yes of course he ONLY had a "mixed band thing" for a marketing mechanism. Obviously Prince really thought about it in that way. Probably only worked with his band as a publicity stunt ot get noticed. That's how you sell records isn't it?? Nothing to do with writing good music that ALL colours, creeds and religions could relate to. Nothing to do with writing songs about being yourself and embracing who you are. No heaven forbid Prince did anything other than try and make money and be famous because afterall I'm sure that's all he ever wanted. He would do that the only way possible. If it meant making music for dumb white folks then he would do it. He would play the game in order to further his career. Now thank god he doens't care about any of that shit and he can be truly balck and sing lyrics about "screaming like a white women" because that's not stereotyping at all. Oh no, that's a fact !! Shut up already, damn. | |
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pepper7 said: shayde said: come on people, get real ...
the mixed band thing was as much about honoring/aping Sly and the Family Stone as much as it was a marketing mechanism to get him a broader audience. And, I might add, at the time both worked extremely well. It had nothing to do with what he really believed. Also, as a walking legend with nothing to lose, he can indulge whatever altruistic whims he so desires, instead of the pressure of generating sales and being a company man as he was back then. Plus he was younger and dummer, less world experience. On another note, by your reasoning, you guys would conclude that he had a thing for older large black women since he liked working with Chaka, Mavis, Rosie, Boni, and Patty ... Yes of course he ONLY had a "mixed band thing" for a marketing mechanism. Obviously Prince really thought about it in that way. Probably only worked with his band as a publicity stunt ot get noticed. That's how you sell records isn't it?? Nothing to do with writing good music that ALL colours, creeds and religions could relate to. Nothing to do with writing songs about being yourself and embracing who you are. No heaven forbid Prince did anything other than try and make money and be famous because afterall I'm sure that's all he ever wanted. He would do that the only way possible. If it meant making music for dumb white folks then he would do it. He would play the game in order to further his career. Now thank god he doens't care about any of that shit and he can be truly balck and sing lyrics about "screaming like a white women" because that's not stereotyping at all. Oh no, that's a fact !! Brilliant statement Pepper! | |
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shayde said: come on people, get real ...
the mixed band thing was as much about honoring/aping Sly and the Family Stone as much as it was a marketing mechanism to get him a broader audience. And, I might add, at the time both worked extremely well. It had nothing to do with what he really believed. Also, as a walking legend with nothing to lose, he can indulge whatever altruistic whims he so desires, instead of the pressure of generating sales and being a company man as he was back then. Plus he was younger and dummer, less world experience. On another note, by your reasoning, you guys would conclude that he had a thing for older large black women since he liked working with Chaka, Mavis, Rosie, Boni, and Patty ... muscial thing, Yes...objects of desire, No | |
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pepper7 said: shayde said: come on people, get real ...
the mixed band thing was as much about honoring/aping Sly and the Family Stone as much as it was a marketing mechanism to get him a broader audience. And, I might add, at the time both worked extremely well. It had nothing to do with what he really believed. Also, as a walking legend with nothing to lose, he can indulge whatever altruistic whims he so desires, instead of the pressure of generating sales and being a company man as he was back then. Plus he was younger and dummer, less world experience. On another note, by your reasoning, you guys would conclude that he had a thing for older large black women since he liked working with Chaka, Mavis, Rosie, Boni, and Patty ... Yes of course he ONLY had a "mixed band thing" for a marketing mechanism. Obviously Prince really thought about it in that way. Probably only worked with his band as a publicity stunt ot get noticed. That's how you sell records isn't it?? Nothing to do with writing good music that ALL colours, creeds and religions could relate to. Nothing to do with writing songs about being yourself and embracing who you are. No heaven forbid Prince did anything other than try and make money and be famous because afterall I'm sure that's all he ever wanted. He would do that the only way possible. If it meant making music for dumb white folks then he would do it. He would play the game in order to further his career. Now thank god he doens't care about any of that shit and he can be truly balck and sing lyrics about "screaming like a white women" because that's not stereotyping at all. Oh no, that's a fact !! Pity that we live in a world where a person would have to go through such extremes just so they didn't have be known only inside the black community. [Edited 2/27/06 10:33am] | |
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PurpleCharm said: pepper7 said: Yes of course he ONLY had a "mixed band thing" for a marketing mechanism. Obviously Prince really thought about it in that way. Probably only worked with his band as a publicity stunt ot get noticed. That's how you sell records isn't it?? Nothing to do with writing good music that ALL colours, creeds and religions could relate to. Nothing to do with writing songs about being yourself and embracing who you are. No heaven forbid Prince did anything other than try and make money and be famous because afterall I'm sure that's all he ever wanted. He would do that the only way possible. If it meant making music for dumb white folks then he would do it. He would play the game in order to further his career. Now thank god he doens't care about any of that shit and he can be truly balck and sing lyrics about "screaming like a white women" because that's not stereotyping at all. Oh no, that's a fact !! Pity that we live in a world where a person would have to go through such extremes just so they didn't have be known only inside the black community. [Edited 2/27/06 10:33am] Poor, poor Prince. It must have been really difficult for him all these years trying to pretend he's something that he's not. Shut up already, damn. | |
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PurpleCharm said: pepper7 said: Yes of course he ONLY had a "mixed band thing" for a marketing mechanism. Obviously Prince really thought about it in that way. Probably only worked with his band as a publicity stunt ot get noticed. That's how you sell records isn't it?? Nothing to do with writing good music that ALL colours, creeds and religions could relate to. Nothing to do with writing songs about being yourself and embracing who you are. No heaven forbid Prince did anything other than try and make money and be famous because afterall I'm sure that's all he ever wanted. He would do that the only way possible. If it meant making music for dumb white folks then he would do it. He would play the game in order to further his career. Now thank god he doens't care about any of that shit and he can be truly balck and sing lyrics about "screaming like a white women" because that's not stereotyping at all. Oh no, that's a fact !! Pity that we live in a world where a person would have to go through such extremes just so they didn't have be known only inside the black community. [Edited 2/27/06 10:33am] It's interesting that Hip-hop has helped to change that. I least I think so. | |
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GoldenGlove said: Was there any white people in the crowd on the Musicoogy video?
All the people on Call My Name were black? Black sweat? U'll be screaming like awhite lady when i count to three... what's that supposed to mean? 
Any whites in the TAC video? Tamar. Yep, he loves his blacks.  he may always have been like this in the old days but these days he's letting it show. aggressively  | |
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XxAxX said:[quote] GoldenGlove said: Was there any white people in the crowd on the Musicoogy video?
All the people on Call My Name were black? Black sweat? U'll be screaming like awhite lady when i count to three... what's that supposed to mean?
Any whites in the TAC video? Tamar. Yep, he loves his blacks. Someone should take a closer look at his wives (present and past). Neither are anywhere close to being black. Does that mean he's only willing to marry non-blacks???  [Edited 2/27/06 10:49am] | |
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pepper7 said: PurpleCharm said: Pity that we live in a world where a person would have to go through such extremes just so they didn't have be known only inside the black community. [Edited 2/27/06 10:33am] Poor, poor Prince. It must have been really difficult for him all these years trying to pretend he's something that he's not. It's not that much diiferent in Corporate America. | |
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GoldenGlove said: nurse said: .That siggy is so phukin' dumb  How rude.I'm happy to be a person whose educated and a nurse. Get A Fucking Life!  | |
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nurse said: GoldenGlove said: That siggy is so phukin' dumb How rude.I'm happy to be a person whose educated and a nurse. Get A Fucking Life! Don't worry about that person Nurse. Some people on this board act like thirteen year olds. I think you are cool. | |
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kisscamille said:[quote] XxAxX said: GoldenGlove said: Was there any white people in the crowd on the Musicoogy video?
All the people on Call My Name were black? Black sweat? U'll be screaming like awhite lady when i count to three... what's that supposed to mean?
Any whites in the TAC video? Tamar. Yep, he loves his blacks. Someone should take a closer look at his wives (present and past). Neither are anywhere close to being black. Does that mean he's only willing to marry non-blacks???
[Edited 2/27/06 10:49am] YOU MISQUOTED ME. i never said that. please fix your error. thanks | |
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XxAxX said: kisscamille said: Someone should take a closer look at his wives (present and past). Neither are anywhere close to being black. Does that mean he's only willing to marry non-blacks???
[Edited 2/27/06 10:49am] YOU MISQUOTED ME. i never said that. please fix your error. thanks If I misquoted you, I apologize. I was referring to the comments Goldenglove made, not yours. | |
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GoldenGlove said: nurse said: .That siggy is so phukin' dumb Also, SHUT THE HELL UP! When grown people are talking | |
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kisscamille said: XxAxX said: YOU MISQUOTED ME. i never said that. please fix your error. thanks If I misquoted you, I apologize. I was referring to the comments Goldenglove made, not yours. thank you! [Edited 2/27/06 11:35am] | |
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nurse said: GoldenGlove said: That siggy is so phukin' dumb Also, SHUT THE HELL UP! When grown people are talking Hey chill out man, i was only kidding. I like u 2! here on the org we always poke fun etc... don't take any of it seriously, it's all in the name of fun, lol.
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