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Thread started 02/18/06 9:36am

FunkJam

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Just got 1999 the other day...

So, i go into a record shop the other day and pick up a few cd's. One of them 1999, which i already had but only on a cdr. So on the way home i put it on to find out it's missing DMSR! Now i know some of the early copies didnt include it, but it says on the back cover and even the disc that DMSR is there. And i can't find the receipt to take it back, which means i gotta get another copy! What a waste of money!!! mad mad
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Reply #1 posted 02/18/06 9:56am

Rockability

FunkJam said:

So, i go into a record shop the other day and pick up a few cd's. One of them 1999, which i already had but only on a cdr. So on the way home i put it on to find out it's missing DMSR! Now i know some of the early copies didnt include it, but it says on the back cover and even the disc that DMSR is there. And i can't find the receipt to take it back, which means i gotta get another copy! What a waste of money!!! mad mad


I used to have the record and if my memory serves correct, it was a b-side. When it was released on CD, I thought they included it? That sucks for you. Take it back!
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Reply #2 posted 02/18/06 10:08am

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Rockability said:

FunkJam said:

So, i go into a record shop the other day and pick up a few cd's. One of them 1999, which i already had but only on a cdr. So on the way home i put it on to find out it's missing DMSR! Now i know some of the early copies didnt include it, but it says on the back cover and even the disc that DMSR is there. And i can't find the receipt to take it back, which means i gotta get another copy! What a waste of money!!! mad mad


I used to have the record and if my memory serves correct, it was a b-side. When it was released on CD, I thought they included it? That sucks for you. Take it back!


Wrong way around, it was on the double vinyl lp, but ommitted from the original pressings of the CD due to limitations in time on CDs around then (they could have released a 2 CD set but chose not to do so!).
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Reply #3 posted 02/18/06 10:22am

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Rockability said:



I used to have the record and if my memory serves correct, it was a b-side. When it was released on CD, I thought they included it? That sucks for you. Take it back!


Wrong way around, it was on the double vinyl lp, but ommitted from the original pressings of the CD due to limitations in time on CDs around then (they could have released a 2 CD set but chose not to do so!).



Yeah, thats right.

Just get Prince to sign the CD and hold onto it!
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Reply #4 posted 02/18/06 10:29am

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Rockability said:

metalorange said:



Wrong way around, it was on the double vinyl lp, but ommitted from the original pressings of the CD due to limitations in time on CDs around then (they could have released a 2 CD set but chose not to do so!).



Yeah, thats right.

Just get Prince to sign the CD and hold onto it!


Thats a good idea!
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Reply #5 posted 02/18/06 11:25am

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1999 was both a single and double album overseas. and some of the tapes had bonus tracks of the single LP. then 2 versions of the CD. (not to mention the us tape had a different track order than the LP and CD)
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Reply #6 posted 02/18/06 11:28am

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metalorange said:



Wrong way around, it was on the double vinyl lp, but ommitted from the original pressings of the CD due to limitations in time on CDs around then (they could have released a 2 CD set but chose not to do so!).


And if memoer serves it was only over by a tiny bit. something they could have done just by fading a few songs a few seconds each.
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Reply #7 posted 02/18/06 1:14pm

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SlamGlam said:

metalorange said:



Wrong way around, it was on the double vinyl lp, but ommitted from the original pressings of the CD due to limitations in time on CDs around then (they could have released a 2 CD set but chose not to do so!).


And if memoer serves it was only over by a tiny bit. something they could have done just by fading a few songs a few seconds each.


That's a big nono to do. Especially with the endings in the songs.

The 1999 configuration always differred by medium. The tape even included how come u don't call me anymore as a song.

If DMSR was named on the sleeve then it has to be on cd. That always was 1 on 1. in this case it seems that someone has put the wrong version in the box and has now a incorrect version him/herself.
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Reply #8 posted 02/19/06 7:14am

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dualboot said:[quote]

SlamGlam said:



And if memory serves it was only over by a tiny bit. Something they could have done just by fading a few songs a few seconds each.

That's a big nono to do. Especially with the endings in the songs.


I would say it beats taking out an entire song.

The 1999 configuration always differred by medium. The tape even included how come u don't call me anymore as a song.


Not the US tape. I think that was the Europian single album version.

If DMSR was named on the sleeve then it has to be on CD. That always was 1 on 1. In this case it seems that someone has put the wrong version in the box and has now a incorrect version him/herself.


If it was on the sleeve then someone switched the CDs. Remember the first CD release did not have that song on it.
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Reply #9 posted 02/19/06 12:19pm

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1999 was both a single and double album overseas. and some of the tapes had bonus tracks of the single LP. then 2 versions of the CD. (not to mention the us tape had a different track order than the LP and CD)


Wait. Who's on first?
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Reply #10 posted 02/19/06 3:03pm

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DiamondGirl said:

SlamGlam said:

1999 was both a single and double album overseas. and some of the tapes had bonus tracks of the single LP. then 2 versions of the CD. (not to mention the us tape had a different track order than the LP and CD)


Wait. Who's on first?


is it my fault that 1999 was released in so many configurations?
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Reply #11 posted 02/19/06 4:37pm

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FunkJam said:

So, i go into a record shop the other day and pick up a few cd's. One of them 1999, which i already had but only on a cdr. So on the way home i put it on to find out it's missing DMSR! Now i know some of the early copies didnt include it, but it says on the back cover and even the disc that DMSR is there. And i can't find the receipt to take it back, which means i gotta get another copy! What a waste of money!!! mad mad


actually, don't throw it out. It might have been a better deal then you expected. I am not sure what DMSR is, but if the album you bought is missing it, the album purchessed might just be a collectable.
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Reply #12 posted 02/19/06 5:27pm

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MickG said:

FunkJam said:

So, i go into a record shop the other day and pick up a few cd's. One of them 1999, which i already had but only on a cdr. So on the way home i put it on to find out it's missing DMSR! Now i know some of the early copies didnt include it, but it says on the back cover and even the disc that DMSR is there. And i can't find the receipt to take it back, which means i gotta get another copy! What a waste of money!!! mad mad


actually, don't throw it out. It might have been a better deal then you expected. I am not sure what DMSR is, but if the album you bought is missing it, the album purchessed might just be a collectable.



what he got was the orginal CD *presed with out DMSR* in the reissue Case *with DMSR put back on*
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Reply #13 posted 02/19/06 5:31pm

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I bought a version without "DMSR" just because it's different. redface
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Reply #14 posted 02/19/06 8:58pm

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FunkJam said:

So, i go into a record shop the other day and pick up a few cd's. One of them 1999, which i already had but only on a cdr. So on the way home i put it on to find out it's missing DMSR! Now i know some of the early copies didnt include it, but it says on the back cover and even the disc that DMSR is there. And i can't find the receipt to take it back, which means i gotta get another copy! What a waste of money!!! mad mad


I don't know about overseas but in the US they haven't manufactured a DMSR-less version in years and years. I just caught that you said the disc itself says it has DMSR on it. Sounds like you have a less than official release... a counterfeit sold as the real thing, perhaps?
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Reply #15 posted 02/19/06 10:40pm

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FunkJam said:

So, i go into a record shop the other day and pick up a few cd's. One of them 1999, which i already had but only on a cdr. So on the way home i put it on to find out it's missing DMSR! Now i know some of the early copies didnt include it, but it says on the back cover and even the disc that DMSR is there. And i can't find the receipt to take it back, which means i gotta get another copy! What a waste of money!!! mad mad




wow, that sucks. I would be pissed too. Nah try and return it, couldn't hurt.
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Reply #16 posted 02/20/06 12:40am

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jtfolden said:

FunkJam said:

So, i go into a record shop the other day and pick up a few cd's. One of them 1999, which i already had but only on a cdr. So on the way home i put it on to find out it's missing DMSR! Now i know some of the early copies didnt include it, but it says on the back cover and even the disc that DMSR is there. And i can't find the receipt to take it back, which means i gotta get another copy! What a waste of money!!! mad mad


I don't know about overseas but in the US they haven't manufactured a DMSR-less version in years and years. I just caught that you said the disc itself says it has DMSR on it. Sounds like you have a less than official release... a counterfeit sold as the real thing, perhaps?
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Nono,he's got the European official release!
I remember when I bought it I was pissed,I think it's because
they couldn't include all the songs on 1 disc,at the time.
If U put the disc in your mediaplayer it only displays 10
songs,but DMSR is on display,International lover NOT!
So,it's quiet confussing...

Remember SOTT was released on 2 discs the first time it came out on cd.
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Reply #17 posted 02/20/06 12:49am

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dualboot said:

SlamGlam said:



And if memoer serves it was only over by a tiny bit. something they could have done just by fading a few songs a few seconds each.


That's a big nono to do. Especially with the endings in the songs.

The 1999 configuration always differred by medium. The tape even included how come u don't call me anymore as a song.

If DMSR was named on the sleeve then it has to be on cd. That always was 1 on 1. in this case it seems that someone has put the wrong version in the box and has now a incorrect version him/herself.


my tape doesnt have How Come you Dont Call me!!

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Reply #18 posted 02/20/06 12:56am

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It should have been Track 5 on the CD version, I never seen it without D.S.M.R.
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Reply #19 posted 02/20/06 1:27am

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Pondwater said:

It should have been Track 5 on the CD version, I never seen it without D.S.M.R.

Right,but when we paly track 5,we get AUTOMATIC.
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Reply #20 posted 02/20/06 2:10am

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You must've got a very old 2nd hand copy, because they haven't made these in years and years (it does say on the reverse sleeve that DMSR is omitted.

Keep it, or sell it on eBay, and buy a brand new copy.
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Reply #21 posted 02/20/06 6:10am

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muirdo said:[quote]

dualboot said:



my tape doesnt have How Come you Dont Call me!!

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I think that was only the europepian single album version of the tape. Remember it came out as both a single and double album.

And once again as for the CD. he has the a pre-1991 (no DMSR) CD that was put into a Post 1999 case. it is a 2nd had CD so it is not suprize. He should take it back and tell them and see if they will trade CDs.
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Reply #22 posted 02/20/06 6:23am

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Well the version I bought had sound distortion about 4 mins into DMSR, alot of crackly background noise so I bought it again and found the same problem. Then I got it as a b-side to one of the Hits singles and the sound distortion is still there so it must be just part of the song but it sucks.

I think you should be able to bring it back without the receipt. Compare the serial no. on the disc with the one on the case, they must be different and if thats the case they may as well have sold you a king kong dvd in a bruce lee box. You shouldn't need a receipt if you weren't even diven what you paid for. Print out this thread if you have any problems exchanging.
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Reply #23 posted 02/20/06 7:20am

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Well i can't find the receipt, but if i take it back it should not be a problem because it's only a small little record shop, and ive been in there quite alot. So they will remember me. Alternatively i could sell it on ebay as a collectors item and possibly get more than i paid for it!
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Reply #24 posted 02/20/06 7:32am

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FunkJam said:

Well i can't find the receipt, but if i take it back it should not be a problem because it's only a small little record shop, and ive been in there quite alot. So they will remember me. Alternatively i could sell it on ebay as a collectors item and possibly get more than i paid for it!


I doubt it. Did you check ebay? seems it would be worth less than the one with DMSR.
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Reply #25 posted 02/20/06 7:36am

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It is of possible interest as a collectors item, but don't expect to get very much for it, it's not particularly rare or sought after.

Interesting little widget of though I guess. wink
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Reply #26 posted 02/20/06 7:48am

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Just checked ebay. There seems to be a few original copies going for around £5, which is what i paid for it anyway.
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Reply #27 posted 02/20/06 11:06am

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Paisley4u said:

Nono,he's got the European official release!
I remember when I bought it I was pissed,I think it's because
they couldn't include all the songs on 1 disc,at the time.
If U put the disc in your mediaplayer it only displays 10
songs,but DMSR is on display,International lover NOT!
So,it's quiet confussing...

Remember SOTT was released on 2 discs the first time it came out on cd.



He said even the disc ITSELF listed DMSR as one of the tracks on the CD. The original releases without DMSR did NOT list it as one of the tracks and, in fact, had a notice about that song being omitted.
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Reply #28 posted 02/20/06 11:08am

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jtfolden said:[quote]

Paisley4u said:




He said even the disc ITSELF listed DMSR as one of the tracks on the CD. The original releases without DMSR did NOT list it as one of the tracks and, in fact, had a notice about that song being omitted.



oh dang he did. well first i need to learn how to read. and 2nd... it may well be worth keeping! that is strange!
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Reply #29 posted 02/20/06 11:20am

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SlamGlam said:

oh dang he did. well first i need to learn how to read. and 2nd... it may well be worth keeping! that is strange!


That's why I figured maybe it was a black market special of some sort... I once bought a DVD movie for my mother that was SUPPOSED to be the "Enhanced Collectors Edition" with all these extra like "Making Of", etc... The DVD disc itself listed this info but the contents on the disc were from the original, no frills, release. It was a silver disc, not a DVDr but I bought it used at a small shop.

I went online to look up information on the disc and found that the artwork for the case and disc didn't quite match up right so it was a counterfeit product.
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