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PrintableMost of the time, there is nothing worse than a pop artist who goes all social and political. It sounds like they made their millions then started feeling guilty about the poor and made the record as a way to appease their guilty conscience. Like the time Phil Collins followed one of his best selling records with some socially-aware release, complete with a grainy black and white video about the homeless. These statements do need to be made, but when they come from pop stars, they often sound hollow.
In Prince's case, his socially-aware material has always been limited to one or two songs per album if that. It generally works because he's not trying too hard. It's like "here's something I have to get off my chest and then after that I promise you'll hear something fun". These songs often contain some baffling line that makes you scratch your head, so much so that this type of material has been very hit or miss. I love many of his social-political songs but the thought of an album mostly devoted to that makes me want to hide under the bed. Seeing that Dear Mr. Man, for example, questioned the relevance of voting in an election year. Prince is many things but he's not a great social or political thinker. | |
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I can back up Byron's statement. Get your head out of your ass, xt1000. Just because someone posts on a discussion board doesn't mean they don't have a job. In fact, I've never posted more on the .Org than when I had an awfully boring job! I passed the time by arguing about Prince with people like you...
xt1000 said: Byron said: Better...I have a career. One that allows me to set my own rates and dictate my own schedule, take vacations at my desire without asking permission...and even allows me to post on an internet message board if the feeling hits me to do so. It's wonderful having control. Me too.....some of us are so lucky But if someone had asked me that question to be honest I would have said 'No', which makes me think you are lying. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Byron said: He's only released three albums over the past 5 years, The Rainbow Children, N.E.W.S and Musicology...and you already said TRC met the criteria of being meaniingful and showed Prince taking a stand on something the way you'd like.
How about One Nite Alone? I love that album the most out of his 00s work. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: Byron said: He's only released three albums over the past 5 years, The Rainbow Children, N.E.W.S and Musicology...and you already said TRC met the criteria of being meaniingful and showed Prince taking a stand on something the way you'd like.
How about One Nite Alone? I love that album the most out of his 00s work. thanks needed something to listen to | |
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Prince creates meaningful music. | |
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lspear76 said: The #1 thing that stops Prince from creating truly great music is that he doesn't write about a wide variety of emotions or feelings. Rarely (recently) has he written music that's dealt with anything of significance. His feud with Warners produced a great artistic album - Come. Even The Rainbow Children was interesting and at least took a stand on a topic. But more often than not, Prince keeps things positive and safe to the point of boredom. He's never released Empty Room on an album. That's a "great" Prince song... deals with pain, heartbreak, and there is no happy ending.
Too much of his music is devoid of reality. Has Prince ever questioned the existence of God? The unjust nature of the world? Has he ever come clean about relationships? How about just a great pop song? I'd love to hear Prince music of him questioning himself and his own abilities, or to reach down deep and create something that matters. Susan Rogers talked about this once... that he recorded the song "Wally" about his breakup with Susannah, and it was this really deep, heartfelt, painful composition... but he destroyed the tape because it was just too personal. She was upset about this because "Wally" is the kind of music she longed to hear from such a talented musician. But Prince is incapable of admitting mistakes or showing a vulnerable side. When his genius is questioned, he releases "Undisputed" to prove he's still "all that." Usually a song like that flops because it is dishonest. I don't buy it, and think it's fraudulent.Is Prince a great, cherished artist? Absolutely. But his views and life perspective are too safe and comfortable for him to create anything meaningful. Comments! ----- He has had a lot of songs that are really personal. Some maybe a little to personal. How many idiots have I run into over the years who did not understand WDC. The public is not the bright and it is pop music. Sometimes you have to keep it light. | |
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lspear76 said: The #1 thing that stops Prince from creating truly great music is that he doesn't write about a wide variety of emotions or feelings. Rarely (recently) has he written music that's dealt with anything of significance. His feud with Warners produced a great artistic album - Come. Even The Rainbow Children was interesting and at least took a stand on a topic. But more often than not, Prince keeps things positive and safe to the point of boredom. He's never released Empty Room on an album. That's a "great" Prince song... deals with pain, heartbreak, and there is no happy ending.
Too much of his music is devoid of reality. Has Prince ever questioned the existence of God? The unjust nature of the world? Has he ever come clean about relationships? How about just a great pop song? I'd love to hear Prince music of him questioning himself and his own abilities, or to reach down deep and create something that matters. Susan Rogers talked about this once... that he recorded the song "Wally" about his breakup with Susannah, and it was this really deep, heartfelt, painful composition... but he destroyed the tape because it was just too personal. She was upset about this because "Wally" is the kind of music she longed to hear from such a talented musician. But Prince is incapable of admitting mistakes or showing a vulnerable side. When his genius is questioned, he releases "Undisputed" to prove he's still "all that." Usually a song like that flops because it is dishonest. I don't buy it, and think it's fraudulent.Is Prince a great, cherished artist? Absolutely. But his views and life perspective are too safe and comfortable for him to create anything meaningful. Comments! Thanks for having the courage to speak tyoujr mind. At least you're not a yes man. I'll give youcredit for that.  | |
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I think going from a complete android, sex freak, to a Religious cultist is a pretty big emotional stretch, I'd say. lol All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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BeautifulFrance said: Prince is an entertainer not some moron who wants to make you cry over the poverty in the world, aids in Africa and unemployment rate. There are other artists who do that very well already and who know how to make money out of it. No need to have one more so called desperate whinger to ruin radio waves.
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PanicAttack said: lspear76 said: The #1 thing that stops Prince from creating truly great music is that he doesn't write about a wide variety of emotions or feelings. Rarely (recently) has he written music that's dealt with anything of significance. His feud with Warners produced a great artistic album - Come. Even The Rainbow Children was interesting and at least took a stand on a topic. But more often than not, Prince keeps things positive and safe to the point of boredom. He's never released Empty Room on an album. That's a "great" Prince song... deals with pain, heartbreak, and there is no happy ending.
Too much of his music is devoid of reality. Has Prince ever questioned the existence of God? The unjust nature of the world? Has he ever come clean about relationships? How about just a great pop song? I'd love to hear Prince music of him questioning himself and his own abilities, or to reach down deep and create something that matters. Susan Rogers talked about this once... that he recorded the song "Wally" about his breakup with Susannah, and it was this really deep, heartfelt, painful composition... but he destroyed the tape because it was just too personal. She was upset about this because "Wally" is the kind of music she longed to hear from such a talented musician. But Prince is incapable of admitting mistakes or showing a vulnerable side. When his genius is questioned, he releases "Undisputed" to prove he's still "all that." Usually a song like that flops because it is dishonest. I don't buy it, and think it's fraudulent.Is Prince a great, cherished artist? Absolutely. But his views and life perspective are too safe and comfortable for him to create anything meaningful. Comments! Thanks for having the courage to speak tyoujr mind. At least you're not a yes man. I'll give youcredit for that. Saying something controversial just for the sake of argument doesnt always make you courageous. It simply means that you have a bigger stick used to poke people. (Insert something clever here) | |
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DarkKnight1 said: PanicAttack said: Thanks for having the courage to speak tyoujr mind. At least you're not a yes man. I'll give youcredit for that. Saying something controversial just for the sake of argument doesnt always make you courageous. It simply means that you have a bigger stick used to poke people. see?.i told ya  . | |
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lspear76 said: The #1 thing that stops Prince from creating truly great music is that he doesn't write about a wide variety of emotions or feelings. Rarely (recently) has he written music that's dealt with anything of significance. His feud with Warners produced a great artistic album - Come. Even The Rainbow Children was interesting and at least took a stand on a topic. But more often than not, Prince keeps things positive and safe to the point of boredom. He's never released Empty Room on an album. That's a "great" Prince song... deals with pain, heartbreak, and there is no happy ending.
Too much of his music is devoid of reality. Has Prince ever questioned the existence of God? The unjust nature of the world? Has he ever come clean about relationships? How about just a great pop song? I'd love to hear Prince music of him questioning himself and his own abilities, or to reach down deep and create something that matters. Susan Rogers talked about this once... that he recorded the song "Wally" about his breakup with Susannah, and it was this really deep, heartfelt, painful composition... but he destroyed the tape because it was just too personal. She was upset about this because "Wally" is the kind of music she longed to hear from such a talented musician. But Prince is incapable of admitting mistakes or showing a vulnerable side. When his genius is questioned, he releases "Undisputed" to prove he's still "all that." Usually a song like that flops because it is dishonest. I don't buy it, and think it's fraudulent.Is Prince a great, cherished artist? Absolutely. But his views and life perspective are too safe and comfortable for him to create anything meaningful. Comments! Oh my gawd it's Lou Spear. Here to stir up trouble no doubt. So when did they release you... 
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Ifsixwuz9 said: Oh my gawd it's Lou Spear. Here to stir up trouble no doubt. So when did they release you... wait a minute--this wouldn't happen to be the infamous 'loudawg', now would it?  [Edited 2/19/06 20:11pm] | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Ifsixwuz9 said: Oh my gawd it's Lou Spear. Here to stir up trouble no doubt. So when did they release you... wait a minute--this wouldn't happen to be the infamous 'loudawg', now would it?
[Edited 2/19/06 20:11pm] Unless it's someone posing as Lou (and I can't imagine why anyone would), yes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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del [Edited 2/20/06 3:20am] Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid. | |
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“Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling off the church and killed everyone inside…”
“Is it me or did the world just get darker? Is it me or did I just lay down and die?” “Your father said it was pneumonia, Your mother said it was strep But the doctor said u were dead. And i, I say it?s senseless” “Papa just went outside and pointed a shotgun up in the sky. He said "how come I don?t love my woman? Then he took aim and died… Boom” “If I could just disappear. Cease 2 exist, cease 2 be here. (Want me) If U don't want me. I'm not worth the air that I breathe. I wish I could disappear” “She killed black children, and what?s fair is fair. If u try and say u?re crazy, everybody say electric chair. Electric chair!” “Like candle slowly burning, I can feel my world unravel. Hemisphere upon hemisphere lie beneath my soul” “How come you don’t call me…. Anymore?” “Why did I waste my kisses on u, baby?” “How do we ever lose communication? How do we ever lose each other's sound? Baby, if u wanna, we can fix the situation. Maybe we can stop the rain from coming down” “I never gave U any reason 2 treat me unkind Each day that goes by I grow lonelier Sadder than the day before” “who bought you that diamond ring? Yeah right, since when did you have a job?” |
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Ifsixwuz9 said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: wait a minute--this wouldn't happen to be the infamous 'loudawg', now would it?
[Edited 2/19/06 20:11pm] Unless it's someone posing as Lou (and I can't imagine why anyone would), yes. well i'll be...hey, long time no troll, eh lou? i figured that you'd learn your lesson here after your last successful thread...y'know, about how you think it's okay to use the n-word around some of your friends or something like that? it was a while ago, remember that? 
anyways, for those of ya'll who are conversing with this guy trying to show 'im examples, spare yourselves: you're all being had. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: long time no troll, eh lou?
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"Can I offer you baklava? Or a bagel, with cream cheese?"
It doesn't get much more meaningful than that. Prince is clearly showing his disillusionment with the neo-Maoist philosophies of the rebel group, El Luminoso, ("The Shining Path") in Peru. And check out this stunner: "Guaranteed to get yo girl loose...if she douche!" Who can credibly argue against Prince's point here, that Nixon's decision to eliminate the Gold Standard in order to bolster the American economy ended up leading to long-term deprivation of the manufacturing sector as Asian economies turned to the Yen for future stability? The man is a genius! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: "Can I offer you baklava? Or a bagel, with cream cheese?"
It doesn't get much more meaningful than that. Prince is clearly showing his disillusionment with the neo-Maoist philosophies of the rebel group, El Luminoso, ("The Shining Path") in Peru. And check out this stunner: "Guaranteed to get yo girl loose...if she douche!" Who can credibly argue against Prince's point here, that Nixon's decision to eliminate the Gold Standard in order to bolster the American economy ended up leading to long-term deprivation of the manufacturing sector as Asian economies turned to the Yen for future stability? The man is a genius!
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Hi!
(And I meant "El Sendero Luminoso." Sorry for messing up your ramblings, Prince) Handclapsfingasnapz said: KingSausage said: "Can I offer you baklava? Or a bagel, with cream cheese?"
It doesn't get much more meaningful than that. Prince is clearly showing his disillusionment with the neo-Maoist philosophies of the rebel group, El Luminoso, ("The Shining Path") in Peru. And check out this stunner: "Guaranteed to get yo girl loose...if she douche!" Who can credibly argue against Prince's point here, that Nixon's decision to eliminate the Gold Standard in order to bolster the American economy ended up leading to long-term deprivation of the manufacturing sector as Asian economies turned to the Yen for future stability? The man is a genius!
...and hi there, ks! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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KingSausage said: "Can I offer you baklava? Or a bagel, with cream cheese?"
It doesn't get much more meaningful than that. Prince is clearly showing his disillusionment with the neo-Maoist philosophies of the rebel group, El Luminoso, ("The Shining Path") in Peru. And check out this stunner: "Guaranteed to get yo girl loose...if she douche!" Who can credibly argue against Prince's point here, that Nixon's decision to eliminate the Gold Standard in order to bolster the American economy ended up leading to long-term deprivation of the manufacturing sector as Asian economies turned to the Yen for future stability? The man is a genius! Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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KingSausage said: "Can I offer you baklava? Or a bagel, with cream cheese?"
It doesn't get much more meaningful than that. Prince is clearly showing his disillusionment with the neo-Maoist philosophies of the rebel group, El Luminoso, ("The Shining Path") in Peru. And check out this stunner: "Guaranteed to get yo girl loose...if she douche!" Who can credibly argue against Prince's point here, that Nixon's decision to eliminate the Gold Standard in order to bolster the American economy ended up leading to long-term deprivation of the manufacturing sector as Asian economies turned to the Yen for future stability? The man is a genius!
And hey! I've missed you. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: Ifsixwuz9 said: Unless it's someone posing as Lou (and I can't imagine why anyone would), yes. well i'll be...hey, long time no troll, eh lou?
i figured that you'd learn your lesson here after your last successful thread...y'know, about how you think it's okay to use the n-word around some of your friends or something like that? it was a while ago, remember that?
anyways, for those of ya'll who are conversing with this guy trying to show 'im examples, spare yourselves: you're all being had. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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lspear76 said: The #1 thing that stops Prince from creating truly great music is that he doesn't write about a wide variety of emotions or feelings. Rarely (recently) has he written music that's dealt with anything of significance. His feud with Warners produced a great artistic album - Come. Even The Rainbow Children was interesting and at least took a stand on a topic. But more often than not, Prince keeps things positive and safe to the point of boredom. He's never released Empty Room on an album. That's a "great" Prince song... deals with pain, heartbreak, and there is no happy ending.
Too much of his music is devoid of reality. Has Prince ever questioned the existence of God? The unjust nature of the world? Has he ever come clean about relationships? How about just a great pop song? I'd love to hear Prince music of him questioning himself and his own abilities, or to reach down deep and create something that matters. Susan Rogers talked about this once... that he recorded the song "Wally" about his breakup with Susannah, and it was this really deep, heartfelt, painful composition... but he destroyed the tape because it was just too personal. She was upset about this because "Wally" is the kind of music she longed to hear from such a talented musician. But Prince is incapable of admitting mistakes or showing a vulnerable side. When his genius is questioned, he releases "Undisputed" to prove he's still "all that." Usually a song like that flops because it is dishonest. I don't buy it, and think it's fraudulent.Is Prince a great, cherished artist? Absolutely. But his views and life perspective are too safe and comfortable for him to create anything meaningful. Comments! I liked this post. It's a fair and accurate appraisal of Prince's work over the past decade or so. Skimmed the rest of the thread, saw a lot of dismissive posts, that's to be expected. The thread title is quite inflamatory, I can see why it would garner the sort of replies it did. Evasive lyrical themes doesn't necessarily mean the music is meaningless. | |
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BeautifulFrance said: Prince is an entertainer not some moron who wants to make you cry over the poverty in the world, aids in Africa and unemployment rate. There are other artists who do that very well already and who know how to make money out of it. No need to have one more so called desperate whinger to ruin radio waves.
Prince is a PartyMan dude !  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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