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Thread started 02/11/06 2:39pm

2freaky4church
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The one honest Rainbow Children review

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 02/11/06 2:43pm

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Keith Phipps (editor) grew up in a suburb of Dayton, Ohio. His near-complete lack of interest in, or aptitude for, outdoor activities eventually developed into a passion for reading, film, and music. He began his entertainment-writing career as a film critic for the Northmont Junior High School's weekly newspaper The T-Bolt Tribune, where a pan of the inexplicably popular film Teen Wolf did little to improve his social standing. After receiving a BA from Wittenberg University and an English MA from the University Of Wisconsin-Madison, he began an exciting career as a video-store clerk and freelance writer. This eventually led to full-time employment at The A.V. Club, although he would be happy to charge you late fees for old times' sake. Keith lives in Chicago with his wife, two cats and an overactive dog



grrrreat! this man holds the truth and i bet he doesnt even sing in the shower
One minute you're bleeding. The next minute you're hemorrhaging. The next minute you're painting the Mona Lisa
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Reply #2 posted 02/11/06 3:03pm

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I agree with this sentence only (I believe even the die-hard fans agree)

Much of Prince's genius used to lie in his ability to snare listeners into his genuinely avant-garde work, weird pop constructed from the outer reaches of R&B, funk, rock, and whatever else occurred to him. Here he mostly harnesses bits and pieces of the past


But I really love TRC as a musical trip. The album really flows, and the engineering was brilliant also. The instruments sound great.

I don´t see where critics see so much smooth jazz on this album (mostly because people associate Najee´s sax with Kenny G, but smooth jazz artists don´t use that kind of ring modulator on the guitar in the middle). Only the first track has some parts of it. ´Everywhere´ is pure Parade, ´1+1+1=3´ is a cousin of Erotic City, Everlasting Now, The Work and Family Name are funk/rock. Even ´Sensual Ever after´ is a rock ballad anthem much closer to Steve Vai than Kenny G.

Ok, we got ´Mellow´ and ´Muse 2 the pharaoh´ which are ballads, but they at least escape from the ´Do me baby/Scandalous/Insatiable´ formula (that I like a lot, don´t get me wrong)
[Edited 2/11/06 15:07pm]
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Reply #3 posted 02/11/06 3:04pm

JudasLChrist

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I agree w/ that review.
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Reply #4 posted 02/11/06 3:05pm

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F*** you ! The Rainbow Children is in the top 4 of my favoruites Prince's albums ever.

The asshole who wrote the article must be into Robbie Williams' music to be so dumb.
Il n'y a pas de sentiment plus exaltant que celui d'appartenir à une nation si diverse, si libre et si douée pour le bonheur.
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Reply #5 posted 02/11/06 3:09pm

ImYours

Ummm...I strongly disagree with this reviewer. He seems to think that he has a clue, but he's nowhere close. Sowwy, twy again!
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Reply #6 posted 02/11/06 3:20pm

Wahday

I don't post here much and I am one of the first to critize(sp) Prince when he releases shit for music.

But this review is bullshit and everyone who hates TRC is Bullshit and not a music lover. The Rainbow Children is Prince musically at his best. Lyrically it is far from his best, however the music makes up for it. Not one of Prince's albums is as adventurous as TRC is. No album from the 80's when Prince was at his artistic peak, or the 90's when he was making great stuff admist bad stuff even compares to the vastness of TRC.

Prince challenges himself and the album works. I dont' give a flying fuck what anyone says. It's not my favorite Prince Album, but it easily is in the top 5. From begining to end the album is a masterpiece, and would probably be my favorite album of all time had the lyrics been easier to digest.

Just someone's 2 cents.
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Reply #7 posted 02/11/06 3:23pm

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That was a very lame defense of the album. I think the critic and me win on this one. TRC is about as avant-Purple as a purple doily at a kids birthday party.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #8 posted 02/11/06 3:59pm

amyhr

Wahday said:


But this review is bullshit and everyone who hates TRC is Bullshit and not a music lover. The Rainbow Children is Prince musically at his best. Lyrically it is far from his best, however the music makes up for it. Not one of Prince's albums is as adventurous as TRC is. No album from the 80's when Prince was at his artistic peak, or the 90's when he was making great stuff admist bad stuff even compares to the vastness of TRC.


For me, when an artist releases a song with lyrics, then the lyrics are part of the music, and sorry, in the case of TRC, most the lyrics ruin the album for me. If it had been released as an instrumental (instead of N.E.W.S) I'd likely rate it much higher. Yes it is adventurous, but 'adventurous' does not automagically equal 'good' (or 'great').

As to your first sentence, I guess I own over 800 CD's (and keep buying more) cuz I hate music. Hhmm, never knew that about myself...

(Actually, maybe it doesn't apply to me, cuz I don't specifically 'hate' TRC, I just don't rate it very high...)
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Reply #9 posted 02/11/06 4:02pm

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The lyrics are the album, that's the problem. The music is just there to ensnare us into falling for the bullshit that Prince is trying to pull. The same way a bad product is pitched with a clever commercial.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #10 posted 02/11/06 4:21pm

origmnd

horseshittery? helluva word for a journalist
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Reply #11 posted 02/11/06 4:25pm

swiftyweb

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I've not been to the org for over a year, and it seems that the majority of orgers still haven't grasp the concept of 'Opinion' !!
It were proper bo I tell the!! Bo Selecta!
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Reply #12 posted 02/11/06 5:26pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The music is just there to ensnare us into falling for the bullshit that Prince is trying to pull.


- So, you could apply the same statement to all of his albums, right?
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Reply #13 posted 02/11/06 5:46pm

Milty

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review couldn't have been more wrong
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Reply #14 posted 02/11/06 6:15pm

Imago

Milty said:

review couldn't have been more wrong

hmm
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Reply #15 posted 02/11/06 6:42pm

Byron

GustavoRibas said:

2freaky4church1 said:

The music is just there to ensnare us into falling for the bullshit that Prince is trying to pull.


- So, you could apply the same statement to all of his albums, right?

clapping...It's only bullshit when we don't agree with it...lol...but the process is the same on every Prince album and CD he's ever released, save for maybe New Power Soul... confused
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Reply #16 posted 02/11/06 6:43pm

amyhr

Milty said:

review couldn't have been more wrong



It's entirely possible the review actually could have been more wrong. Consider this:

Prince's newest album, The Rainbow Children, is a headbangers dream come true. Ever since the down of speed metal, rockers have been looking for the ultimate bad-ass, non-stop acid. With TRC, Prince has delivered...


So you see, it really could have been further from the the perceived truths of any of us...
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Reply #17 posted 02/11/06 6:43pm

Byron

By the way, what makes this review "honest"??... confuse
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Reply #18 posted 02/11/06 7:13pm

homeandmantel

Perfect review!
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Reply #19 posted 02/11/06 7:36pm

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still remains the most disappointing musical moment of my life
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Reply #20 posted 02/11/06 8:47pm

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BeautifulFrance said:

F*** you ! The Rainbow Children is in the top 4 of my favoruites Prince's albums ever.

Now, I ain't got no ESP or shit like that, but I'm getting a feeling it's at no. 4?
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Reply #21 posted 02/12/06 1:31am

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2freaky4church1 said:

The lyrics are the album, that's the problem. The music is just there to ensnare us into falling for the bullshit that Prince is trying to pull. The same way a bad product is pitched with a clever commercial.


Someone like you who likes Iron Maiden & Scorpions should have no right to discuss music in the first place ! falloff
TRC is a masterpiece. You're probably more into NPS or rave. Sorry TRC is the most mature album Prince has released musically.
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Reply #22 posted 02/12/06 1:48am

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Human nature dictates, however, that we must justify our own opinions to others to help deal with our insecurities. Reading this thread pretty much makes my case in point.

As for the review, if the reviewers favourite song is "She Loves Me 4 Me" from the album then the style of the rest of it really aint what he's looking for. After getting over the initial surprise of the style of lyrics etc, I started to appreciate songs like 1+1+1 is 3, Family Name and The Work pt1. The music is some of the best Prince has ever produced in my opinion,
So look into the mirror, do u recognise some1? Is it who u always hoped u would become, when u were young?
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Reply #23 posted 02/12/06 3:16am

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In spite of
layers of spiritual horseshittery

I enjoy listening this album much more than most of the post-SOTT production. As I am not a native english speaker, I recognize that the lyrics do not bother as much as they would if I were.

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Reply #24 posted 02/12/06 4:34am

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demob said:

As I am not a native english speaker, I recognize that the lyrics do not bother as much as they would if I were.
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- It happens with me also...I pay more attention to the music than the lyrics, so they never bothered me...
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Reply #25 posted 02/12/06 6:57am

JPW

yeah right!
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Reply #26 posted 02/12/06 7:09am

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The same guy probably praises New Power Soul.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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Reply #27 posted 02/12/06 9:12am

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It's so funny how we all have different tastes.

When I first bought TRC, I studied it. By that, I mean I listened to it for probably a month straight, like I do all Prince CDs.

Muse 2 the Pharoah is where I took my Org name from... just because it's a smooth groove that I thoroughly enjoy. I also dig She Loves Me 4 Me, and a number of the other jams... Family Name, Mellow, etc.

But now, it's probably the CD I reach for the least. (That, and Grafitti Bridge). We all go through our phases and musical stages where one or two CDs dominate out CD player.

Right now, it's The Black Album, NPS and Come. Some of these might be your least favorites, but that's cool... it's all about OPINION. In fact, next week maybe I WILL reach for Grafitti Bridge.

While I agree with much of the review, the CD still has a gem or two. The computerized voice can be ANNOYING, and some songs (Wedding Feast) cause you to have "What the Fuck" moments.

It's by no means a commercial CD, but I just think that you head in different directions when you're an artist. Who am I to say what kind of music Prince should make. That's kind of selfish.

We all want him to do well, but we need to respect the fact that because he IS an artist, he has to stay true to his vision and to what drives him.

Like the CD "The Truth". Many of you hate it. I actually find it extremely interesting and enjoyable.

It's all a matter of OPINION. While I wouldn't EVER want to be stuck on a desert island with TRC, I'll visit it from time to time, and accept it for what it is.

A stage in the man's body of work. Disappointing for some. A jewel for others. And I'm cool with the that.
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Reply #28 posted 02/12/06 10:07am

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co-sign except I loved TRC & I do pop this cd every so often. I'm always craving more new P music. What more can be said, it seems like a lot of folks can't handle or stand this album for this or that reason. I don't agree with all of P's religious beliefs on this cd ,but I love the album just the same.The music is daring and much diffrent trip than any he has takin in a long while







MantuaPharoah said:

It's so funny how we all have different tastes.

When I first bought TRC, I studied it. By that, I mean I listened to it for probably a month straight, like I do all Prince CDs.

Muse 2 the Pharoah is where I took my Org name from... just because it's a smooth groove that I thoroughly enjoy. I also dig She Loves Me 4 Me, and a number of the other jams... Family Name, Mellow, etc.

But now, it's probably the CD I reach for the least. (That, and Grafitti Bridge). We all go through our phases and musical stages where one or two CDs dominate out CD player.

Right now, it's The Black Album, NPS and Come. Some of these might be your least favorites, but that's cool... it's all about OPINION. In fact, next week maybe I WILL reach for Grafitti Bridge.

While I agree with much of the review, the CD still has a gem or two. The computerized voice can be ANNOYING, and some songs (Wedding Feast) cause you to have "What the Fuck" moments.

It's by no means a commercial CD, but I just think that you head in different directions when you're an artist. Who am I to say what kind of music Prince should make. That's kind of selfish.

We all want him to do well, but we need to respect the fact that because he IS an artist, he has to stay true to his vision and to what drives him.

Like the CD "The Truth". Many of you hate it. I actually find it extremely interesting and enjoyable.

It's all a matter of OPINION. While I wouldn't EVER want to be stuck on a desert island with TRC, I'll visit it from time to time, and accept it for what it is.

A stage in the man's body of work. Disappointing for some. A jewel for others. And I'm cool with the that.
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Reply #29 posted 02/12/06 11:01am

origmnd

BeautifulFrance said:

2freaky4church1 said:

The lyrics are the album, that's the problem. The music is just there to ensnare us into falling for the bullshit that Prince is trying to pull. The same way a bad product is pitched with a clever commercial.


Someone like you who likes Iron Maiden & Scorpions should have no right to discuss music in the first place ! falloff
TRC is a masterpiece. You're probably more into NPS or rave. Sorry TRC is the most mature album Prince has released musically.



Hey dont go there...TRC is great and so was Iron Maiden
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