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Reply #90 posted 02/09/06 7:25pm

nurse

jazzvirtuoso said:

Wow, what a thread! lol

Before I respond to this i would first have to say that people should or would probably be better served by prefencing this within "Genre".

IMHO its hard to compare a rock player to a jazz player or metal or whatever, but anyway...


My personal favs are

1. Jimmy Bruno he has outstanding technique the best in jazz

2. George Benson

3. Stanly Jordon

4. Randy Rhodes

5. Jimmy Hendrix

6. Eddie hazel

7. Greg Williams(the guitarist i work with)

8. Andre Segovia

9. BB king

10. zakk wylde

Will add more later....



JV'






WOW!How could I forget about George Benson. He is one of the great one's. I never thought that this thread would become as unique as this. Thanks Orgers rainbow.
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Reply #91 posted 02/11/06 5:52am

JPW

krayzie said:

SDNafka said:




I like Stanley Jordan, I have a couple of CDs of his, but I'd rather listen to Prince play guitar any day, given the choice. Sure he's sloppy, his vibrato is not well controlled and he probably doesn't know a bunch of scales but he plays with passion and, most importantly, I like the notes he chooses to play. I know that for some people technique is all there is to music but to me its just a tool to get your ideas heard. If you've got no ideas then all the technique in the world don't mean shit (Note: I'm not saying that applies to Stanley Jordan).



What you said is a question of taste not technique... When we are talking about the greatest guitar player of all time, we are saying who's the best technically, the one who revolutionized and redefined the way of play and influenced the most ???


Of course Prince is nowhere near the very best guitar players, but he's blatantly underrated...

But what pissed me off with Prince fans is the way they always take it bad when some people say he's not the best guitarist...

Prince can play with passion, with his heart etc, that's great, but he IS NOT THE GREATEST GUITAR PLAYER...

A lot of guitarists are way better technically...
I don't judge a guitar player just because he plays with "passion"... It's not objective at all... sorry
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Well likewise, neither is technicality alone.

The best guitar players have a combination of great harmonic knowledge, dexterity and pure talent.

Prince is AMONG the greatest players in that he has these skills (and it's important to hear some of the unreleased stuff before ruling this out), but there are certainly those who are perhaps more far-reaching with these things.
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Reply #92 posted 02/11/06 6:11am

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heres an intersting link.

http://guitar.about.com/l...atesth.htm

top 100 guitar solos Prince is in there with Little Red Corvette but i had always thought that it Dez that was playing guitar on that track.
anyone?
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Reply #93 posted 02/11/06 6:13am

JPW

muirdo said:

heres an intersting link.

http://guitar.about.com/l...atesth.htm

top 100 guitar solos Prince is in there with Little Red Corvette but i had always thought that it Dez that was playing guitar on that track.
anyone?


ha yeah that was Dez. typical.
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Reply #94 posted 02/12/06 8:31am

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I have no idea who the "greatest guitar player of all-time" is, because it's something no one is ever going to agree on anyway. shrug If a guitarist moves you, then I guess they will always be the best in your own eyes (and ears biggrin ). Or at least a favorite anyway.

But I'm just astounded though that people still can't seem spell Jimi Henrix's name correctly after all these years. hmmm
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Reply #95 posted 02/12/06 1:27pm

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minneapolisgenius said:

I have no idea who the "greatest guitar player of all-time" is, because it's something no one is ever going to agree on anyway. shrug If a guitarist moves you, then I guess they will always be the best in your own eyes (and ears biggrin ). Or at least a favorite anyway.

But I'm just astounded though that people still can't seem spell Jimi Henrix's name correctly after all these years. hmmm



Wasnt Jimmie Hendricks lol real name James Marshall??
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Reply #96 posted 02/12/06 1:30pm

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carlpenn said:

minneapolisgenius said:

I have no idea who the "greatest guitar player of all-time" is, because it's something no one is ever going to agree on anyway. shrug If a guitarist moves you, then I guess they will always be the best in your own eyes (and ears biggrin ). Or at least a favorite anyway.

But I'm just astounded though that people still can't seem spell Jimi Henrix's name correctly after all these years. hmmm



Wasnt Jimmie Hendricks lol real name James Marshall??

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Reply #97 posted 02/12/06 1:59pm

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Second 2 Jimi? I say Yes. The problem is Prince just doesn't play guitar enough on his albums so people forget and don't really think of him as a guitarist like they should. Then they see him on Sat. Night Live and there shocked!
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #98 posted 02/12/06 4:03pm

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One guitar player who's name I don't think has come up is Robert Randolph. This cat plays a mean Steel Guitar. Prince himself has given this dude props. Did any of you see him on last years Vh1 Save The Music Benefit? He and Rob Thomas of Matchbox 20 did "Voodoo Child" and Randolph Tore it up! He had everyone in the place on their feet? and he's a young cat too. (He appears to be under 30). Look out for this brother.
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Reply #99 posted 02/12/06 4:16pm

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Robert Randolph is indeed amazing!

I just downloaded a video lesson of Jimmy Bruno, and he is amazing also....thanks for the tip, jazzy...smile
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Reply #100 posted 02/13/06 12:21pm

carlpenn

Instead of a thread querying Princes Greatness on guitar perhaps we should start a thread and list our favourite Guitarists so that other people can listen to these artists??

Just a thought.....Could be interesting - More so as there are Guitarists named here that I had indeed forgotten about over time !!!

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Reply #101 posted 02/13/06 12:22pm

carlpenn

minneapolisgenius said:

carlpenn said:




Wasnt Jimmie Hendricks lol real name James Marshall??

fishslap


biggrin


Seriously though.....Wasnt his real name James Marshall ?? I cant remember, I do know they 'altered' his name to be more suitable for "Stage".....
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Reply #102 posted 02/13/06 3:07pm

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carlpenn said:

Instead of a thread querying Princes Greatness on guitar perhaps we should start a thread and list our favourite Guitarists so that other people can listen to these artists??
cool


- That´s fine...one of my faves is Vernon Reid, from Living Colour. I am listening to Stevie Salas a lot also. He mixes funk and rock very well.
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Reply #103 posted 02/13/06 3:23pm

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Has anybody mentioned Tuck Andress? Always one of my favorites.

He often plays with his wife Patti (Tuck & Patti) but he has a solo album called "Reckless Precision" which is amazing.

Particularly his unrecognizable take on "Louie Louie"
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Reply #104 posted 02/13/06 4:28pm

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muirdo said:

heres an intersting link.

http://guitar.about.com/l...atesth.htm

top 100 guitar solos Prince is in there with Little Red Corvette but i had always thought that it Dez that was playing guitar on that track.
anyone?

I am sure in the credit note on the album 4 that song it states Dez did play the solo.
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Reply #105 posted 02/13/06 4:35pm

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carlpenn said:

minneapolisgenius said:


fishslap


biggrin


Seriously though.....Wasnt his real name James Marshall ?? I cant remember, I do know they 'altered' his name to be more suitable for "Stage".....



I think it was changed from James Marshall Hendricks to Jimi Hendrix for the atage...but thats just from memory.
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Reply #106 posted 02/13/06 5:32pm

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roanmairin said:

Has anybody mentioned Tuck Andress? Always one of my favorites.

He often plays with his wife Patti (Tuck & Patti) but he has a solo album called "Reckless Precision" which is amazing.

Particularly his unrecognizable take on "Louie Louie"


- How could I forget him? He is an amazing player smile
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Reply #107 posted 02/14/06 12:59am

carlpenn

GustavoRibas said:

carlpenn said:

Instead of a thread querying Princes Greatness on guitar perhaps we should start a thread and list our favourite Guitarists so that other people can listen to these artists??
cool


- That´s fine...one of my faves is Vernon Reid, from Living Colour. I am listening to Stevie Salas a lot also. He mixes funk and rock very well.



I will crack up a new thread in Music: Non Prince..... wink



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Reply #108 posted 02/14/06 3:50am

seekay

prince chose to be PRINCE and not a virtuoso guitarist,

if only he practised 9 hours a day with the guitar as steve vai or so many others he woulda been way better with the guitar than what he is today.

jimi also played bass and maybe other instruments but on his records he always had a band backing him up. jimi was a guitarist. prince is not.


prince "just" plays other instruments, produces, used to dance a lot, makes videos...etc
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Reply #109 posted 02/14/06 5:39am

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seekay said:

prince chose to be PRINCE and not a virtuoso guitarist,

if only he practised 9 hours a day with the guitar as steve vai or so many others he woulda been way better with the guitar than what he is today.

jimi also played bass and maybe other instruments but on his records he always had a band backing him up. jimi was a guitarist. prince is not.


prince "just" plays other instruments, produces, used to dance a lot, makes videos...etc
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Oh, Prince is not a guitarist? U wanna tell him that?!

[Edited 2/14/06 5:40am]
Goodnight, sweet Prince.
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Reply #110 posted 02/14/06 6:06am

seekay

nice pic but dont be simplistic.
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Reply #111 posted 02/14/06 6:43am

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SDNafka said:

carlpenn said:



Seriously though.....Wasnt his real name James Marshall ?? I cant remember, I do know they 'altered' his name to be more suitable for "Stage".....



I think it was changed from James Marshall Hendricks to Jimi Hendrix for the atage...but thats just from memory.

He legal name was James Marshall Hendrix. The last name was always spelled that way. And he did used to spell it "Jimmy" but then changed it.


spelling edit
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Reply #112 posted 02/14/06 6:45am

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carlpenn said:

GustavoRibas said:



- That´s fine...one of my faves is Vernon Reid, from Living Colour. I am listening to Stevie Salas a lot also. He mixes funk and rock very well.



I will crack up a new thread in Music: Non Prince..... wink



Place your names here:http://www.prince.org/msg/8/177592
[Edited 2/14/06 1:04am]

Please don't. lol That thread has been done countless times already over there.
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Reply #113 posted 02/14/06 8:10am

seekay

minneapolisgenius said:

SDNafka said:




I think it was changed from James Marshall Hendricks to Jimi Hendrix for the atage...but thats just from memory.

He legal name was James Marshall Hendrix. The last name was always spelled that way. And he did used to spell it "Jimmy" but then changed it.


spelling edit
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he called his dad when he arrieved to england and told him "dad, im gonna be a big star and my name is gonna be jimi hendrix"
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Reply #114 posted 02/14/06 1:49pm

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seekay said:

minneapolisgenius said:


He legal name was James Marshall Hendrix. The last name was always spelled that way. And he did used to spell it "Jimmy" but then changed it.


spelling edit
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he called his dad when he arrieved to england and told him "dad, im gonna be a big star and my name is gonna be jimi hendrix"

Well, he was right. nod
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Reply #115 posted 02/14/06 3:50pm

carlpenn

minneapolisgenius said:

carlpenn said:




I will crack up a new thread in Music: Non Prince..... wink



Place your names here:http://www.prince.org/msg/8/177592
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Please don't. lol That thread has been done countless times already over there.



OOPS !!!!! Im sorry.....I did it.....I have enraged the gods of repeated posts and now will burn in Forum hell forever lol

just messin.....well not about the post.....barf.....I have no life after 8pm.....lol.....
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Reply #116 posted 02/15/06 2:55am

seekay

minneapolisgenius said:

seekay said:



he called his dad when he arrieved to england and told him "dad, im gonna be a big star and my name is gonna be jimi hendrix"

Well, he was right. nod




HE said it after he met some people and producers in london who told him so. "wer gonna make u a big star", so he told his dad. u never no if jimi was naive or just too cool about it
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Reply #117 posted 02/15/06 5:07am

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Here we go again,lol.This argument gets dusted off every few weeks,and it is always an interesting thread.
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Reply #118 posted 02/15/06 5:26am

minneapolisgen
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carlpenn said:

minneapolisgenius said:


Please don't. lol That thread has been done countless times already over there.



OOPS !!!!! Im sorry.....I did it.....I have enraged the gods of repeated posts and now will burn in Forum hell forever lol

just messin.....well not about the post.....barf.....I have no life after 8pm.....lol.....

lol I saw that. Ah, who cares. That thread comes around about every month or so. nod And naturally, I'll feel compelled to offer up my favorites at some point as well. I won't be able to stop myself. biggrin
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Reply #119 posted 02/15/06 5:28am

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DavidEye said:

Here we go again,lol.This argument gets dusted off every few weeks,and it is always an interesting thread.






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