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Thread started 01/19/06 11:38am

DirtyChris

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Dez's "Modernaire"

is there a studio version of this?

not that looped mess that was on the p2p programs...

I heard Dez released some double album at the end of last year including "Modernaire"
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #1 posted 01/19/06 11:43am

talk2bill2

tere was a 2cd retrospective but i am not sure if it was official or not?
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Reply #2 posted 01/19/06 11:43am

rbrpm

Modernaire is still out there? eek
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Reply #3 posted 01/19/06 11:47am

talk2bill2

i found some info on it... they said that "Modernaire" was taken from a tape Dez had and not from the master. i am not sure who owns the master or the publishing rights and the set seems more like a bootleg than official
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Reply #4 posted 01/19/06 11:48am

DirtyChris

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talk2bill2 said:

tere was a 2cd retrospective but i am not sure if it was official or not?

yeah, the guy that told me about it
said you had to order it from a website
I didn't keep track of that info...


@rbrpm - there's one out there? eek
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #5 posted 01/19/06 11:49am

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talk2bill2 said:

i found some info on it... they said that "Modernaire" was taken from a tape Dez had and not from the master. i am not sure who owns the master or the publishing rights and the set seems more like a bootleg than official

a good friend of mines
assures me that it's
probably locked away
in Prince's vaults somewhere
never to see the light of day sad
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #6 posted 01/19/06 11:50am

Universaluv

Look here....

http://www.prince.org/msg/5/135787
[Edited 1/19/06 11:51am]
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Reply #7 posted 01/19/06 11:51am

talk2bill2

i think his site has it for sale. but the one i saw was $50 and autographed...
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Reply #8 posted 01/19/06 11:53am

DirtyChris

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Universaluv said:

Look here....

http://www.prince.org/msg/5/135787
[Edited 1/19/06 11:51am]

merci beaucoup!!! biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 01/19/06 11:54am

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talk2bill2 said:

i think his site has it for sale. but the one i saw was $50 and autographed...

oh hell naaaaw mad

thanx anyway
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Reply #10 posted 01/19/06 11:56am

talk2bill2

i would order with caution... the news page is OLD it says Dez is going to be on Vh1's True Spin.. aboput 1999.. which they nixed when Prince refused to let them use any music or clips.

Meaning: they may not even be paying any attention to the site and ordered paid for my net be filled any time soon if ever.
[Edited 1/19/06 11:57am]
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Reply #11 posted 01/19/06 12:05pm

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talk2bill2 said:

i would order with caution... the news page is OLD it says Dez is going to be on Vh1's True Spin.. aboput 1999.. which they nixed when Prince refused to let them use any music or clips.

Meaning: they may not even be paying any attention to the site and ordered paid for my net be filled any time soon if ever.
[Edited 1/19/06 11:57am]

merci!!!

I mean, I have tons
of Purple Stuff
(lots of it is on vinyl though
like that Mazarati album
and The Family album)
but I have 4 CDs of outtakes
I have the 94 East album of '78
and a concert from '80 (at City Lights in ATL)
when he was touring with Rick James
shortly before he got the boot...

I am willing to trade
for just that one track
"Modernaire"
[Edited 1/19/06 12:05pm]
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #12 posted 01/19/06 12:12pm

DirtyChris

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oh fuck it...

let me check ebay
"be who you are and say what you feel
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and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #13 posted 01/19/06 12:12pm

dewalliz

I really do dig that song however I dont know about spending $50 dollars for it. it would be nice if i-tunes offer it.
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Reply #14 posted 01/19/06 12:28pm

DirtyChris

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dewalliz said:

I really do dig that song however I dont know about spending $50 dollars for it.

ditto
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because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #15 posted 01/19/06 12:37pm

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The packaging is very lacklustre, but the Retrospective set is worth getting if you like that kind of music - Think A Flock Of Seagulls/Billy Idol/Pat Benatar 82-85 kinda sound.

I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of a lot of the material. If they had received the right promo and attention from a record label, I think The Dez/The Modernaires could've had at least a couple of big hit singles.
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Reply #16 posted 01/19/06 12:38pm

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NouveauDance said:

The packaging is very lacklustre, but the Retrospective set is worth getting if you like that kind of music - Think A Flock Of Seagulls/Billy Idol/Pat Benatar 82-85 kinda sound.

I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of a lot of the material. If they had received the right promo and attention from a record label, I think The Dez/The Modernaires could've had at least a couple of big hit singles.

I couldn't find one on ebay
so I think I may have to
crack down & order me one...

is it available anywhere else
other than his website?
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #17 posted 01/19/06 12:47pm

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DirtyChris said:

is it available anywhere else other than his website?


http://www.madhousemusic.co.uk/

They have it in smile
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Reply #18 posted 01/19/06 1:05pm

blackguitarist
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NouveauDance said:

The packaging is very lacklustre, but the Retrospective set is worth getting if you like that kind of music - Think A Flock Of Seagulls/Billy Idol/Pat Benatar 82-85 kinda sound.

I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of a lot of the material. If they had received the right promo and attention from a record label, I think The Dez/The Modernaires could've had at least a couple of big hit singles.

Very true. I heard from some cats that would DEFINATELY know that WB was gung ho in releasing Dez's album in 84 right along with The Time's Ice Cream Castle, Apple6 Sex Shooter and Sheila's joint. To WB, it made perfect marketing sense. Everybody at the label knew Dez, just like they knew P. BUT, P didn't want compettion of any kind to get in the way of Purple Rain. So word is is that P and his managers at the time went and complained to WB about them releasing Dez's album, saying it would be counter-productive. So, they said they would wait a year after P's album and the film. But by then, Dez's album had lost it's juice so WB said fuck it all together. I saw Dez open for Billy Idol in 84. His band was cool and so was Dez. If WB had went ahead and released Dez's album like they were going to, Dez DEFINATELY would have had a couple of bonafide hits. He was to visual in P's band. Everybody knew who Dez was on sight. MTV would have worn Dez out. In many ways, Dez's image fit better with MTV than P's image did.
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Reply #19 posted 01/19/06 1:36pm

Snap

Prince helped produce the version that's in Purple Rain and on Dez's Retrospective
I think it'd be cool to also hear Dez's pre-Prince version sometime
btw, the Retrospective also includes Dez performing Prince's "When You Were Mine"
and an earlier version of Dez's song "After Hi School" (from The Time's first album)
[Edited 1/19/06 13:38pm]
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Reply #20 posted 01/20/06 9:14am

DirtyChris

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NouveauDance said:

DirtyChris said:

is it available anywhere else other than his website?


http://www.madhousemusic.co.uk/

They have it in smile

merci
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #21 posted 01/20/06 9:15am

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Snap said:

Prince helped produce the version that's in Purple Rain and on Dez's Retrospective
I think it'd be cool to also hear Dez's pre-Prince version sometime
btw, the Retrospective also includes Dez performing Prince's "When You Were Mine"
and an earlier version of Dez's song "After Hi School" (from The Time's first album)
[Edited 1/19/06 13:38pm]

interesting...

I would love to hear
Dez's versions of
"WYWM" & "AHS"
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #22 posted 01/20/06 9:15am

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blackguitaristz said:

NouveauDance said:

The packaging is very lacklustre, but the Retrospective set is worth getting if you like that kind of music - Think A Flock Of Seagulls/Billy Idol/Pat Benatar 82-85 kinda sound.

I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of a lot of the material. If they had received the right promo and attention from a record label, I think The Dez/The Modernaires could've had at least a couple of big hit singles.

Very true. I heard from some cats that would DEFINATELY know that WB was gung ho in releasing Dez's album in 84 right along with The Time's Ice Cream Castle, Apple6 Sex Shooter and Sheila's joint. To WB, it made perfect marketing sense. Everybody at the label knew Dez, just like they knew P. BUT, P didn't want compettion of any kind to get in the way of Purple Rain. So word is is that P and his managers at the time went and complained to WB about them releasing Dez's album, saying it would be counter-productive. So, they said they would wait a year after P's album and the film. But by then, Dez's album had lost it's juice so WB said fuck it all together. I saw Dez open for Billy Idol in 84. His band was cool and so was Dez. If WB had went ahead and released Dez's album like they were going to, Dez DEFINATELY would have had a couple of bonafide hits. He was to visual in P's band. Everybody knew who Dez was on sight. MTV would have worn Dez out. In many ways, Dez's image fit better with MTV than P's image did.

merci biggrin
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"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #23 posted 01/20/06 11:09am

brothaluv

I'm a big Dez fan from day one. BTW, his spiritual ONEMAN cd is cool too. But different than what you would expect from him. As soon as I can find a reputable source to purchase his retrospective, I will. But I don't think his site has been active for months. The messageboard there is a virtual ghost town...
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Reply #24 posted 01/20/06 12:01pm

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When I was younger, I always thought they were singing "I want to be a mountain man." lol
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Reply #25 posted 01/20/06 12:03pm

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FunkMistress said:

When I was younger, I always thought they were singing "I want to be a mountain man." lol

LMBAO
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Reply #26 posted 02/08/06 10:37pm

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brothaluv said:

I'm a big Dez fan from day one. BTW, his spiritual ONEMAN cd is cool too. But different than what you would expect from him. As soon as I can find a reputable source to purchase his retrospective, I will. But I don't think his site has been active for months. The messageboard there is a virtual ghost town...


he sells it on e-bay along with his book about his time with Prince
i think his seller name is "oneman-dez" or something like that
someone here probably remembers
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Reply #27 posted 02/09/06 6:57am

RodeoSchro

If you buy it from Dez, be forewarned that he takes about six weeks to fill orders.
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Reply #28 posted 02/09/06 10:51am

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I want to be a mountain man
Mountain man, mountain man
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Reply #29 posted 02/09/06 1:30pm

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FunkMistress said:

I want to be a mountain man
Mountain man, mountain man


lol! Yeah, that's what I used to think too... Ok a song about returning to nature, or something like that???
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