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Reply #30 posted 01/15/06 3:57am

ImYours

meow85 said:[quote]It's simple: We're fans, but we don't have to worship everything he is and does. I love Prince and his work for all it is, but he's had his share of musical bombs over the years, and as a person he's got some definite flaws too. Just like me, and just like you.

My question for you here is this - why don't you do what they say in some self-help seminars - take what you like and leave the rest. When I used to write reviews of music on epinions.com, with rare exception, I adopted the philosophy that if unless I had something nice to say, I didn't bother to waste my time saying anything at all.
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Reply #31 posted 01/15/06 4:01am

ImYours

Well... tough!

Just take it as a compliment to Prince that they are still around years after they liked an album he released. I think deep down every naysayers knows Prince could surprise them one of these days though they bet he most likely won't. They are still around because they have a deep affection for his old catalog.[/quote]

Naw, dude. Tough for you! I'm tired of you muggafuggas tearin' ishnit down like you think you have a clue! It's like insulting someone with a weight problem, just cuz you think they need to hear it! GIVE ME A BREAK ON THAT NOIZE GET OUT OF MY FREAKIN' ORG!!!!! pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed
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Reply #32 posted 01/15/06 4:54am

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ImYours said:

Well... tough!

Just take it as a compliment to Prince that they are still around years after they liked an album he released. I think deep down every naysayers knows Prince could surprise them one of these days though they bet he most likely won't. They are still around because they have a deep affection for his old catalog.


Naw, dude. Tough for you! I'm tired of you muggafuggas tearin' ishnit down like you think you have a clue! It's like insulting someone with a weight problem, just cuz you think they need to hear it! GIVE ME A BREAK ON THAT NOIZE GET OUT OF MY FREAKIN' ORG!!!!! pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed


your org?

ben, is that you in a clever newbie costume?
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Reply #33 posted 01/15/06 5:07am

TheCatWoman

You're all a bunch of freaks so just shut up and deal with it. lol


Fam!?!? rolleyes


:: don't talk bad about my Prince, my dad can beat up you're dad::: mad











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Reply #34 posted 01/15/06 5:08am

TheCatWoman

cborgman said:

ImYours said:



Naw, dude. Tough for you! I'm tired of you muggafuggas tearin' ishnit down like you think you have a clue! It's like insulting someone with a weight problem, just cuz you think they need to hear it! GIVE ME A BREAK ON THAT NOIZE GET OUT OF MY FREAKIN' ORG!!!!! pissed pissed pissed pissed pissed


your org?

ben, is that you in a clever newbie costume?
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lol lol lol lol
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Reply #35 posted 01/15/06 5:15am

ImYours

TheCatWoman said:

cborgman said:



your org?

ben, is that you in a clever newbie costume?
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lol lol lol lol


Just a friendly little blow-off of steam there. It's all good. But it's still my org. Nyeah!
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Reply #36 posted 01/15/06 5:17am

TheCatWoman

ImYours said:

TheCatWoman said:




lol lol lol lol


Just a friendly little blow-off of steam there. It's all good. But it's still my org. Nyeah!



Yes, yes, it's yours nod .. ALL yours cool




lol

And, you're mine! biggrin
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Reply #37 posted 01/15/06 5:28am

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ImYours said:[quote]

meow85 said:

It's simple: We're fans, but we don't have to worship everything he is and does. I love Prince and his work for all it is, but he's had his share of musical bombs over the years, and as a person he's got some definite flaws too. Just like me, and just like you.

My question for you here is this - why don't you do what they say in some self-help seminars - take what you like and leave the rest. When I used to write reviews of music on epinions.com, with rare exception, I adopted the philosophy that if unless I had something nice to say, I didn't bother to waste my time saying anything at all.

For the most part I do. I haven't bought certain albums of his I know I won't enjoy, and skip over the tracks I don't enjoy on the CD's I do have.

But that doesn't mean I'm going to spend my entire existence as a fan kissing his ass when it's good and turning a blind eye when it's bad.
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Reply #38 posted 01/15/06 5:36am

madsex6969

I like having both sides to a coin...it keeps us ballanced. I've argued everyday of my life about how great I think Prince is...why should it be any different here. Either you like him a LOT...or there's a couple songs people like...not every musician can state that fact. Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer.
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Reply #39 posted 01/15/06 6:19am

realm

I'm not so much upset about the negative crap posts, Hey its the internet and everything goes! Some of these characters may be wanting to go down in Prince history or something, the name Bart comes to mind. Or at least I really remember a character named Bart in the early days of the net that would bitch about Prince all the time.

Me personally, I find the people that become the same relgion as P as funny. Or the people that post 24/7 and are negative or total ass kissers as funny...its like gee..I wonder if these folks have 50 million in a 401k and they are GPSing the money or something and have nothing to do??? I mean worry about yourself a little!

Interesting enough, the music for me, my opinion of it usually changes year to year.

Take this posting stuff light, all good fun.
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Reply #40 posted 01/15/06 6:33am

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jedinpg said:

I'm CURIOUS about 1 thing...

There seems to be a lot of people on prince.org that seem to hate, dislike, and degrade PRINCE. Why IN THE WORLD are you here? What I mean is - If the majaroty of the issues and opinions that you have with PRINCE are negative, then why not move on? Seems like a lot of wasted energy to me..... smile



- I understand what you mean...there are some people here that seem to hate every song he made after Lovesexy. I don´t agree. I still listen to Musicology and TRC and I even appreciated Te Amo Corazon. I loved the recent tours also.

BUT, on the other hand, I don´t agree with people that love everything that Prince does. One of the characteristics of Prince is that he can do extreme things. He goes from Mariah Carey (arg) to Miles Davis. There are some things I really don´t like (like "U make my sunshine" and half of the High album, the name change, Kirky Johnson production, etc) and I sometimes expressed my frustration here

It would be nice if people simply expressed their feelings, mentioning the things they like and don´t like. I never liked fans who went extreme ways, from fanatics to haters.
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Reply #41 posted 01/15/06 7:01am

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jedinpg said:

I'm CURIOUS about 1 thing...

There seems to be a lot of people on prince.org that seem to hate, dislike, and degrade PRINCE. Why IN THE WORLD are you here? What I mean is - If the majaroty of the issues and opinions that you have with PRINCE are negative, then why not move on? Seems like a lot of wasted energy to me..... smile

** I also find it interesting and sometime humorous that some of these people make comments about what they think PRINCE did or was doing. It's like these people share the same MIND as HIM...Here is an example of what I'm talking about. (nothing personal about the person who posted it, just an example)

His most over rated album. Sounds like he recorded it on a quiet weekend because he couldn't think of anything better to do. Its fun but, despite its reputation, its not particularly funky ( unless you're very VERY white ). I've heard all the explanations, official and otherwise, about why it was never released but I'm sure its all bullshit. The guy realized it just wasn't that good. Of course he was never going to admit that that was the reason so we get all the "it was to dark", "he was reminded of his own mortality on an ecstacy trip" rubbish.

I LOVE "The Black Album" as well as his 90's work and YES "EMANCIPATION", "NEW POWER SOUL", "RAVE In2 The JOY Fantastic", "The Rainbow Children" and "MUSICOLOGY".

Thank GOD for PRINCE!

** 1 LAST thing...I persoanly know "2" people on the "org" that live in Southern California...not gonna name names but they have been on here sooooo many freakin' times putting down PRINCE and his recent work ESPECIALLY "NEW POWER SOUL" declaring it bad, not worthy, lot his edge, bland etc., etc.. ( paraphrasing )

Here's the "BEAUTY"....U ready??? These same "haters" have been at many PRINCE
shows and in line for tickets (Key Club and Pantagious Theater in LA just to name a few ) JAMING and I mean JAMING songs from "New Power Soul" and just having a party with it in front of others in line. I onced called them out on it and they said "being on the I hate Prince and his new stuff now" bandwagon is something they do on the org.

Reminds me of Rick Moranus in Space Balls getting caught playing with his dolls in his room. wink

PRINCE is INCREDIBLE because HE still makes MUSIC, ALL kinds of music his way. I'm sooooo freakin' glad that everything he created after "Purple Rain" was not a copy and sounded like it. In fact I am sooooo glad that I can pick out any one his cds 70's, 80's 90's and 00's and listen to something different. His body of work is truly amazing and special.

This was just something that puzzled me, that's all. It's not meant to offend or "flame" anyone....

Love4One Another
And LONG LIVE PRINCE!
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[Edited 1/13/06 17:34pm]



And now you know why we have the "Fronters Unite" banner... because of everything you just touched on. lol

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Reply #42 posted 01/15/06 7:09am

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langebleu said:

MickG said:

Words and their useage doesn't mean dislike. Moreover, being just a reader of our words doesn't mean you coprhend our meanings. If you choose to percieve negitives as to what we say, maybe it isn't us but you that feel that way.

Freedom of Speach!
The Power of Choice!

This is exactly right, MickG.

Just because I might write on a messageboard that MickG talks out of his ass, and has never said anything of any real worth on prince.org - doesn't in the least mean I dislike him.

Moreover, MickG being just the reader of my words doesn't mean that he comprehends my meaning. If he chooses to perceive negatives as to what I say, maybe it isn't me but him that feels that way.

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Reply #43 posted 01/15/06 7:17am

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MickG said:



Although I don't disagree with what is being said here. I do find many flaws in the thinking. For example, the sence of "them and us" mentality. The need to call people who express themselves nonartists. The ideal that some people are worth something while others are worthless? My my my... such nastness.


It's not nastiness at all. To expect something that an artist creates to suit you is asinine. And, unless you've commissioned something specific, to be disappointed in an artist for not making something that you like is also asinine.

"He should do it this way. He should do it that way." Asinine.

It's perfectly fine to say it doesn't suit you, but to rant about how the artist should retire, or worst yet, say that they should create the same things they created 20 years ago...is asinine.

Creative people understand the creative process. Non-creative people don't. There's a clear separation between the two.



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Reply #44 posted 01/15/06 9:52am

kape

people can come and go as they choose and say what they like.the only ppl in here that matter r the ones that joined 4 the reason the majority of us did smile
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Reply #45 posted 01/15/06 12:34pm

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TheBigBang said:

MickG said:



Although I don't disagree with what is being said here. I do find many flaws in the thinking. For example, the sence of "them and us" mentality. The need to call people who express themselves nonartists. The ideal that some people are worth something while others are worthless? My my my... such nastness.


It's not nastiness at all. To expect something that an artist creates to suit you is asinine. And, unless you've commissioned something specific, to be disappointed in an artist for not making something that you like is also asinine.

"He should do it this way. He should do it that way." Asinine.

It's perfectly fine to say it doesn't suit you, but to rant about how the artist should retire, or worst yet, say that they should create the same things they created 20 years ago...is asinine.

Creative people understand the creative process. Non-creative people don't. There's a clear separation between the two.




Exactly.

I would also add, why is it that those of us who happen to love the vast majority of his music, especially his current music are;

1. ass kissers
2. purple kool aid drinkers
3. fammy fams
4. idiots

Does this type of dialogue really add to the discussion? Why not just accept that there are people who truly love just about eveything he does? why not allow for the possibility that some people are just as broad in their tastes as Prince is in his output? Hell, maybe we like shifting gears just as much as he does.

I actually like to read well thought out criticism and even a funny barb here and there, but statements such as;

1. Prince should retire
2. He should take drugs
3. He should do what he did ____years ago
4. He's only done crap for _____ years...
5. He totally lost it after...insert favorite era here____

...and so forth, are indeed asinine generalizations.




There's a difference in having an opinion and being opinionated.



And if the time ever comes that I no longer enjoy the majority of what Prince is doing, past and present, I won't be here talking about it.

I promise.
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Reply #46 posted 01/15/06 12:57pm

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There's very little I personally dislike about Prince or his work. I find that as fans, we take a bit more liberty with our pissing and moaning among other fans. I tend 2 listen more carefully 2 critism from fans who r familiar with prince's full body of work. But if a geniune hater starts talking sh*t about P, thems fightin' words.
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Reply #47 posted 01/15/06 1:17pm

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langebleu said:

MickG said:

Words and their useage doesn't mean dislike. Moreover, being just a reader of our words doesn't mean you coprhend our meanings. If you choose to percieve negitives as to what we say, maybe it isn't us but you that feel that way.

Freedom of Speach!
The Power of Choice!

This is exactly right, MickG.

Just because I might write on a messageboard that MickG talks out of his ass, and has never said anything of any real worth on prince.org - doesn't in the least mean I dislike him.

Moreover, MickG being just the reader of my words doesn't mean that he comprehends my meaning. If he chooses to perceive negatives as to what I say, maybe it isn't me but him that feels that way.

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Reply #48 posted 01/15/06 2:48pm

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I am surprised how many people on this site dislike a great number of Prince's later albums. Its like they are stuck in a time warp or something, hoping the next album will be Purple Rain mkII, and anything other that that is crap. I wonder why those people are here.
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Reply #49 posted 01/15/06 3:07pm

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ImYours said:

TheCatWoman said:




lol lol lol lol


Just a friendly little blow-off of steam there. It's all good. But it's still my org. Nyeah!


it's all of ours, regardless of wether you like the new stuff or not... that's kinda my point, and why this thread is kinda ass.

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Reply #50 posted 01/15/06 3:29pm

ImYours

To me, this answer I give will be the last of its kind. I will no longer
respond to negative postings hereafter. (Responding to negativity, in
the hopes that it will equally negate, just ends up leaving us all in a
zero-sum game (with nobody winning), which is what those people who post negative statements ultimately are attempting.)

From my perspective, the one reason I still like Prince 20+ years after
first becoming a "fam", is because after listening to enough of his records,
I came to see Prince as a "fellow communicator", who is merely speaking about
what is on his mind. If there has ever been a lyric that hasn't rubbed
me quite right (and that has happened more than once), I just chalked it
up to his perspective and left it at that. If there was a particular rhythm,
riff or solo that I didn't like or care for, I just figured it was what was
coming from his mind or his heart at the time, and I took it in with the
whole of his music.

In other words, I love the music Prince makes UNCONDITIONALLY. All of it!
There is nothing he needs to do or say, or not do or say, in his music,
that would ever change that. On top of that, I will always want to hear
waht he has to say, and will welcome it with open arms.

UNCONDITIONALLY!

I reiterate that I will no longer respond to negative postings of any kind
from here on out, because, as in the words of "One Song" - ideas contrary
to this notion are not to be blamed or persecuted, just simply ignored."

I will, however, be happy to respond to positive comment, as to me,
that is the only comment that is worth responding to. Peace!
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Reply #51 posted 01/15/06 10:55pm

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ImYours said:

To me, this answer I give will be the last of its kind. I will no longer
respond to negative postings hereafter. (Responding to negativity, in
the hopes that it will equally negate, just ends up leaving us all in a
zero-sum game (with nobody winning), which is what those people who post negative statements ultimately are attempting.)

From my perspective, the one reason I still like Prince 20+ years after
first becoming a "fam", is because after listening to enough of his records,
I came to see Prince as a "fellow communicator", who is merely speaking about
what is on his mind. If there has ever been a lyric that hasn't rubbed
me quite right (and that has happened more than once), I just chalked it
up to his perspective and left it at that. If there was a particular rhythm,
riff or solo that I didn't like or care for, I just figured it was what was
coming from his mind or his heart at the time, and I took it in with the
whole of his music.

In other words, I love the music Prince makes UNCONDITIONALLY. All of it!
There is nothing he needs to do or say, or not do or say, in his music,
that would ever change that. On top of that, I will always want to hear
waht he has to say, and will welcome it with open arms.

UNCONDITIONALLY!

I reiterate that I will no longer respond to negative postings of any kind
from here on out, because, as in the words of "One Song" - ideas contrary
to this notion are not to be blamed or persecuted, just simply ignored."

I will, however, be happy to respond to positive comment, as to me,
that is the only comment that is worth responding to. Peace!



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Reply #52 posted 01/16/06 12:17am

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I'm tired of all the haters who have nothing good to say but "U shoulda been around back in the day, 80's of course". Don't they have other shit to do? Things they enjoy doing more than listening to Prince?
Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid.
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Reply #53 posted 01/16/06 10:49am

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doctamario said:

I'm tired of all the haters who have nothing good to say but "U shoulda been around back in the day, 80's of course". Don't they have other shit to do? Things they enjoy doing more than listening to Prince?

You mean ... like bitching about Prince?

U should have been around back in the day, 80's of course.

It was so much better then.

There was no internet community ... so no one bitched.

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Reply #54 posted 01/16/06 11:13am

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I used to be irritated by people who seemed to only have negative things to say...but I've learned that not only is it their right to do it, but it's the way we should all live our lives...

My grandmother used to make the best pies in the world...they were all different, and they tasted amazing...(I even got to taste some pieces of pies she made, but decided not to serve...the texture wasn't always perfect, but there were some gems*)...watching her make these live was an out-of-body experience...(I liked to see her jelly, but I LOVED to see her jam)...she even won a World'sBestGrammy Award for her 1984 pie...

Of course as she (and I) got older, not all of her pies suited my tastes...she still made them regularly but, in my opinion, they didn't taste as good as those she made when my pie-eating youth was being shaped...for a while I simply decided to eat pies made by other people, enjoy the memories of grandmothers pies from back in the day, and periodically try a piece here and there from her new pies...

But then I thought "BULLDROPPINGS!"--she OWED me pies that suited my current tastes...none of this experimenting (she actually made a few pies that were crust only!)...

So I logged on to grandmother.org to express my displeasure...

...boy was it cathartic!...GRANDMOTHER SUCKS!...GRANDMOTHER HASN'T MADE A GREAT PIE SINCE 1988!...THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIKE HER CURRENT PIES ARE THE HEINYKISSERS!... SHE COULD FART INTO A PIE CRUST AND YOU BUMBUMKISSERS WOULD GOBBLE IT UP!...

Sure, I am constantly bombarded with comments like "if you hate Grandmother so much, why are you here?" (mostly posted by family members who think they are cool by referring to themselves as faNily)...but what they don't realize is that I HAVE to post...to compensate for my combination of low IQ, tiny female breasts, and minuscule penis...

Try it some time.....


*there's a rumour that after an argument with her boyfriend, she made her best piece of pie EVER...made of Walleye...but it was so personal, too personal in fact, that she started to add all sorts of funky ingredients to deliberately ruin it...and when it was done she immediately threw it away...(this was according to a domestic engineer who was assisting her at the time)...Boy I've imagined a million times what that piece must've tasted like...


Note: For the record, the concensus at grandmother.org seems to be that her last great whole pie was from 1987...she's made some good pieces in the 90s, but she used waaay too much pie filler...in 1998 (made with her friends "the New Flour octoGenerians") she even served an entire pie filled with nothing but doodoo (except for the hidden piece)...of course there's plenty of silly stuff, like whether she's going to get her hip replaced, or if she's a lesbian (despite always being seen with very skinny and very young men)...

...But there is some excitement stirring, as she's about to serve a brand new pie--oddly named after her current address, 3121,Apt.B...(feel free to offer up opinions of her first Spanish-flavored sampling...)



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Reply #55 posted 01/16/06 11:31am

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TheBigBang said:


Creative people understand the creative process. Non-creative people don't. There's a clear separation between the two.



I'm not sure I agree with this statement. I was an art history major (not exactly what most would consider a "creative" major), and as an undergrad I was required to take studio classes--drawing, printmaking, 2 and 3-D design. I sucked at all of them, and I dreaded in-class critiques because I knew my stuff wasn't as good as the BFA's--it was humiliating for me. But I'll tell you that I have MUCH more respect for artists because I understand what goes into making a painting, or print, or art in general, regardless of how simple it seems. (Part of Jackson Pollock's genius was knowing when to STOP in the drip paintings, Picasso invented Cubism b/c he had completely mastered technical drawing by the age of 14, and Duchamp's selection of the readymade as art changed the history of art.)
I may not be able to create an artistic masterpiece, but I guarantee that I can understand and appreciate the process.

The same goes for musicians. My friend is an avid guitarist and tried to show me how to play one chord and, even though I know how to read music, and played the saxophone for 6 years, I couldn't get it right. I had even more respect for Prince after that.

I think that if you've never tried to create something it's difficult to understand the process, but just b/c you're not creative doesn't mean you don't understand the process...

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Reply #56 posted 01/16/06 10:39pm

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I have a question for the haters: WHy are u here?
Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid.
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Reply #57 posted 01/16/06 10:53pm

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For the most part, the term "hater" is just a word sycophants toss around to describe fans who don't love everything a beloved artist does, and who aren't afraid to express that opinion.

This kind of argument has been brought up in every fan community.

You're a "hater" to some Star Wars fans if you think The Phantom Menace sucked.
You're a "hater" to some Pink Floyd fans if you don't care for The Wall.

At the end of the day, it's always an incredibly weak and immature stance.

What is so bad about looking at both sides of the spectrum? Prince is a fantastic artist, but he's also just human, which means he's been prone to the same kinds of mistakes we've all made ourselves.

Examining why you think a particular album is bad doesn't somehow demean the work you find to be brilliant, nor does it make you appreciate it any less.

The fact remains that Prince isn't a perfect artist. He's made his share of truly bad music, so why not be honest about it and take a look at that fact? Why not explore the full picture and not just the beautiful parts?

I think a huge misconception some fans have towards people like me is that I obsess over the things I don't like about Prince just 'cause I discuss them at a fan site like this.

In reality, I just find discussion about Prince altogether to be fascinating and enjoyable, whether it be talk about the good or the bad.

Fans who can't accept some semblance of negativity about their favourite artists need to stop being so sensitive and get over themselves.
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Reply #58 posted 02/11/06 9:59am

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stephaniebrown said:

I used to be irritated by people who seemed to only have negative things to say...but I've learned that not only is it their right to do it, but it's the way we should all live our lives...

My grandmother used to make the best pies in the world...they were all different, and they tasted amazing...(I even got to taste some pieces of pies she made, but decided not to serve...the texture wasn't always perfect, but there were some gems*)...watching her make these live was an out-of-body experience...(I liked to see her jelly, but I LOVED to see her jam)...she even won a World'sBestGrammy Award for her 1984 pie...

Of course as she (and I) got older, not all of her pies suited my tastes...she still made them regularly but, in my opinion, they didn't taste as good as those she made when my pie-eating youth was being shaped...for a while I simply decided to eat pies made by other people, enjoy the memories of grandmothers pies from back in the day, and periodically try a piece here and there from her new pies...

But then I thought "BULLDROPPINGS!"--she OWED me pies that suited my current tastes...none of this experimenting (she actually made a few pies that were crust only!)...

So I logged on to grandmother.org to express my displeasure...

...boy was it cathartic!...GRANDMOTHER SUCKS!...GRANDMOTHER HASN'T MADE A GREAT PIE SINCE 1988!...THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIKE HER CURRENT PIES ARE THE HEINYKISSERS!... SHE COULD FART INTO A PIE CRUST AND YOU BUMBUMKISSERS WOULD GOBBLE IT UP!...

Sure, I am constantly bombarded with comments like "if you hate Grandmother so much, why are you here?" (mostly posted by family members who think they are cool by referring to themselves as faNily)...but what they don't realize is that I HAVE to post...to compensate for my combination of low IQ, tiny female breasts, and minuscule penis...

Try it some time.....










*there's a rumour that after an argument with her boyfriend, she made her best piece of pie EVER...made of Walleye...but it was so personal, too personal in fact, that she started to add all sorts of funky ingredients to deliberately ruin it...and when it was done she immediately threw it away...(this was according to a domestic engineer who was assisting her at the time)...Boy I've imagined a million times what that piece must've tasted like...



Note: For the record, the concensus at grandmother.org seems to be that her last great whole pie was from 1987...she's made some good pieces in the 90s, but she used waaay too much pie filler...in 1998 (made with her friends "the New Flour octoGenerians") she even served an entire pie filled with nothing but doodoo (except for the hidden piece)...of course there's plenty of silly stuff, like whether she's going to get her hip replaced, or if she's a lesbian (despite always being seen with very skinny and very young men)...

...But there is some excitement stirring, as she's about to serve a brand new pie--oddly named after her current address, 3121,Apt.B...(feel free to offer up opinions of her first Spanish-flavored sampling...)

All this talk of pies is sho nuff making me hungry and altho there r some better pies out there nothing can beat grandma's.Some of these pies r hard 2 swallow but i know 1 day grandma will get her funk back on in that kitchen and cook us up something really special.
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Reply #59 posted 02/11/06 10:16am

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gargamelgibson said:

TheBigBang said:



It's not nastiness at all. To expect something that an artist creates to suit you is asinine. And, unless you've commissioned something specific, to be disappointed in an artist for not making something that you like is also asinine.

"He should do it this way. He should do it that way." Asinine.

It's perfectly fine to say it doesn't suit you, but to rant about how the artist should retire, or worst yet, say that they should create the same things they created 20 years ago...is asinine.

Creative people understand the creative process. Non-creative people don't. There's a clear separation between the two.



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