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Thread started 01/11/06 2:21pm

MickG

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Is this your last Prince album?

I as many of you, talk about Prince to anyone who mentions his name. I found several group disgusions about him while I spent some time in college among other instances.

Some people said: that they liked prince in (time frame) but by (time frame) they just were done with his music and what not.

This makes me wonder if it is a personal thing.

What do you think? Are you one of the next drop offs? Could you ever be?

Just because you don't like the message is no reason to shoot the messenger.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #1 posted 01/11/06 2:37pm

purplecam

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Funny cause I thought about starting a thread like this. As for me, ABSOLUTELY NOT. There are some people whose music has made such an impact on me that I just buy them as some kind of ritual to support them. Kinda like a Thank You fo all the years of joy they've given me. People like Janet, Madonna and Michael Jackson fall into this category but especially Prince. Thankfully, Prince still makes music that I like so I never go into the store thinking that it'll suck thank God.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #2 posted 01/11/06 2:41pm

mymocha

I think I was a drop off, but I didn't do it purposely.....but,
I won't be again.
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Reply #3 posted 01/11/06 2:47pm

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My last Prince album is the last one I get before I croak it. Even after he croaks it, there will be a torrent of post-humous releases.

I might not rush to the store on release day any more, but I'll always wanna check out what he's putting out.
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Reply #4 posted 01/11/06 3:18pm

PurpleRein

No, but this is my last Mick post that I will read.
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Reply #5 posted 01/11/06 3:32pm

Marrk

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I'm honestly thinking long and hard about whether to get his next studio album, i probably will (I'm only missing 'Gold nigga' after all) but i really thought 'Musicology' was pretty piss poor and 'Te Amo Corazon' hasn't exactly filled me with much enthusiasm.
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Reply #6 posted 01/11/06 3:38pm

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I find that most people (non hardcore fans) have their fondest memories of Prince when they were 15-20 yrs old. It's probably just a maturity/coming-of-age thing - the first time you experience a true artist.

After that, people grow up and become boring and tend to scoff at his newer work - "It's OK, but it's not as good as SOTT" etc. Unfortunately these people can never re-create their youth. Without an open mind, everything he puts out will be dissapointing.

What we don't realise now, is that there is probably (hopefully!) a huge new breed of Prince fans that had their first Princely experience during the Musicology era. They're just starting out on their journey without even realising it. In 5 years time, the org will be full of them... "Musicology was the greatest album and tour he ever did... his new alum ____ is crap compared to Musicology"!!

Oh, and for the record, I'm down with Prince for life... but I've said that about other artists in the past that I now don't care about, so who knows! lol
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Reply #7 posted 01/11/06 3:43pm

Marrk

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toejam said:

I find that most people (non hardcore fans) have their fondest memorys of Prince when they were 15-18 yrs old. It's probably just a maturity/coming-of-age thing - the first time you experience a true artist.

After that, people grow up and become boring and tend to scoff at his newer work - "It's OK, but it's not as good as ____ " etc. Unfortunately these people can never re-create their youth. Without an open mind, everything he puts out will be dissapointing.

What we don't realise now, is that there is probably (hopefully!) a huge new breed of Prince fans that had their first Princely experience on the Musicology tour. Their just starting out on their journey without even realising it. In 5 years time, the org will be full of them... "Musicology was the greatest album and tour he ever did... his new alum ____ is crap compared to Musicology"!!


That must be it, i'm getting senile. 80's Prince would laugh at this jaded imposter.

Don't get me wrong, he's still great live, i just don't get what the heck has happened studio wise, he's really nowhere near so i don't agree with your last paragraph. if that comes true, i'll run butt naked down my local high street.

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Reply #8 posted 01/11/06 3:59pm

toejam

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Marrk said:

That must be it, i'm getting senile. 80's Prince would laugh at this jaded imposter.

Don't get me wrong, he's still great live, i just don't get what the heck has happened studio wise, he's really nowhere near so i don't agree with your last paragraph. if that comes true, i'll run butt naked down my local high street.



Well, as much as I hate being a Prince ass-kisser, all I can say is that I've generally been happy with all his albums. Sure, some are better than others, but I really can't see how some are 'nowhere near the mark' or whatever.

It's like the new Star Wars movies. Everyone had this wonderful memory of what Star Wars was and what it meant to them in their youth. That's why the new ones were generally scoffed at - there was no way they could live up to the imagination of the fans. But when you watch the old ones now, they're just as badly acted, and just as cheesy...
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Reply #9 posted 01/11/06 4:10pm

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PurpleRein said:

No, but this is my last Mick post that I will read.


wanna bet?
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #10 posted 01/11/06 7:50pm

8up

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I like the ealier reference to Star Wars and the 80's Prince. It's not our youth that made us love both, it's that both were ground-breaking. People who saw Star Wars in 1977 had never seen a movie like that. Nobody had ever made a movie like that. People of all ages were blown away and had high hopes of the future. Same with early Prince. Nobody had ever seen anything like it. Nobody had ever made music and presented it like that before. We all had such high hopes for the future. Unfortunalely, reality sets in and you realize that lightening only strikes once. Sure, both Star Wars and Prince continued doing what they do best, entertaining people , but as good as Revenge of the Sith, or The Rainbow Children were, they'll never be another Star Wars and Purple Rain.
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Reply #11 posted 01/11/06 7:59pm

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I highly doubt it. I jumped on the band wagon about a month after Musicology released and I saw him on tour, so I'm definitely gonna be on for a long while.

And I hope it stays that way, as well...
Ooh, little darlin' if you're
free 4 a couple of hours (Free 4 a couple of hours)
If U ain't busy 4 the next 7 years (Next 7 years)
Say, let's pretend we're married and go all night
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Reply #12 posted 01/11/06 8:15pm

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Cool question.. I have ahd friends who bought the 3 tapes of emancipation and tried to listen, and who just became overwhelmed by too much music, etc. and remember these were cassettes, so it was hard to get to the songs she liked.

As for me, Prince is like a drug. He got me hooked at a young age.. Since then i've been on it, and I must say, I don't expect much from his new releases, but I will always want to hear them. There's usually something worthwhile or a hint of brilliance. I don't know anyone that can keep up that type of output and hit the mark every album. also, it seems to me Prince has become distracted with the music club and the business side. It's kind of ironic that he put out his best material when he was a "slave" and evn had awesome b sides. Now he's free and it seems we get less music and less quality as well. I miss finding those b sides like "17 Days" and "Shes Always in My Hair"

When he plays live I beg the non-fans to see him, and when they do, 100% of the time they become fans, big fans..
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Reply #13 posted 01/11/06 8:48pm

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No, I'm one of those folks that is going to go out and buy it for support, but I will probably like what I hear anyway, cuz I love anything he puts out pretty much.
I'm back!!!!!!!
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Reply #14 posted 01/11/06 10:22pm

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DMSR said:

Cool question.. I have ahd friends who bought the 3 tapes of emancipation and tried to listen, and who just became overwhelmed by too much music, etc. and remember these were cassettes, so it was hard to get to the songs she liked.

As for me, Prince is like a drug. He got me hooked at a young age.. Since then i've been on it, and I must say, I don't expect much from his new releases, but I will always want to hear them. There's usually something worthwhile or a hint of brilliance. I don't know anyone that can keep up that type of output and hit the mark every album. also, it seems to me Prince has become distracted with the music club and the business side. It's kind of ironic that he put out his best material when he was a "slave" and evn had awesome b sides. Now he's free and it seems we get less music and less quality as well. I miss finding those b sides like "17 Days" and "Shes Always in My Hair"

When he plays live I beg the non-fans to see him, and when they do, 100% of the time they become fans, big fans..


Ditto, lad! mexican

I continue to buy/listen on the strength of "Purple Rain"/"Parade"/"Sign O'The Times". Prince, since then, hasn't made great "ALBUMS"- just a mixture of good songs with not-so-good songs; but he never fails to be interesting; I am entertained by his failures because they are often so inexplicable, or bizarre, or plain dumb.

It's facinating that he could effortlessly cull a"Roadhouse Garden" into release and it would be a stronger "FULL ALBUM" than what he's been capable of since 1996; but his ego just won't allow it.

We are more likely to hear songs more like "Life o The Party" these days than an "All My Dreams".

Your Warner Bros. Contract comment is BANG ON! mexican

If YOU were Warner Bros., it looks like you washed your hands of Prince at just about the right time, although for Prince he forever tarnished his legacy with "Come", "The Vault", "Chaos and Disorder".

However it's impossible to forever write off the man who created "Parade". Every new release is a hopeful trip to the cash register. Usually the result is some level of disappointment though-it's just a matter of how much.

cheese

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Reply #15 posted 01/11/06 10:50pm

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i'll always be interested in what sounds he's making -- i was a huge fanatic from 1983-1988 -- but became disappointed with Batman (especially so soon after the Lovesexy tour) -- so i waited to see the Graffiti Bridge movie before I bought the album (that was tough!) -- i loved the music (GB is full of gems! don't deny it) -- then after that, i pretty much lost interest (outside of "Eye Hate U") until 'round about the time Emancipation came out and i had the chance to get to know Prince better ...and Mayte ...and their little dogs too! -- very cool time, he was all spiritual (pre-JW days), sharing his thoughts about the Celestine Prophecy, synchronicities, spiritual growth, "the love we make" and other ideas like that -- the L4OA site/charity, and his "collective" group of fams reverberated the same vibe. i had fun, but Prince soon lost interest in all that -- and the "spiritual" was replaced with "religion" and "race" -- this all climaxed with The Rainbow Children which is the biggest highlight of this period -- the music more than the didacticism of it all -- and I guess that's why I also enjoyed the non-lyrical instrumental albums of this time -- no religion to listen to. u know, it was all good when he was a restless seeker -- he was more real, and open, and friendly -- and at times, even gave an ear to those who were restless seekers too. even if his ego tripped him up from time to time, he kept climbing. but nowdays, i'm not sure what path he took. he seems lost, or brainwashed. maybe i am too. no matter tho. to each his own, eh. i know... i've said too much, but not enough. peace... i'll still be here with both ears turned on.
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Reply #16 posted 01/12/06 3:01am

IstenSzek

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MickG said:

I as many of you, talk about Prince to anyone who mentions his name. .

What do you think? Are you one of the next drop offs? Could you ever be?

Just because you don't like the message is no reason to shoot the messenger.



I never talk about Prince anymore to other people. It's a wasted effort imo.
Although that's not just Prince, mind you. I've given up promoting my likes
in music to other people.

In 90% of the cases, people respond with jokes and contempt if you try to
present them with compilation albums (or, previously casettes) and the only
feedback you usually get is how much they dislike a particular song or how
lame some stuff is etc etc. It's the same with prince, bjork, beck, tori,
joni, radiohead etc.

To answer your initial question tho, i don't think i will ever give up on
Prince's albums completely. However, i can see myself losing interest in
what he's up to every minute of the year. In one or two album's time i will
probably stop following his moves and buying his albums soon as they drop.

I think it's reasonable to assume that in a few years i will stumble across
a new prince album by accident in a music store instead of having been on
the internet scrutinizing it months prior to it's release.

And to answer your last statement, I have no problem with his message. that
is the least of my concern at this point. the bland and uninspired state of
his music and his dwindling talent is more to the point right now. plus his
unwillingness to remaster and rerelease his back catalogue.

for a man who used to be "a control freak" about his music, a perfectionist
and an obsessive musician, he sure doesn't seem to give a fuck about his
creations anymore, or the way they are represented to the new generations
of music lovers (whom he keeps adressing in concert and whom he asks us all
to invite to his music).
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #17 posted 01/12/06 6:29am

Cloudbuster

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I'll probably always buy his albums. But nothing beyond The Truth gets played. I hope that turns around.
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Reply #18 posted 01/12/06 8:48pm

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PurpleRein said:

No, but this is my last Mick post that I will read.



LOL....well said~ wink
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Reply #19 posted 01/12/06 9:19pm

realm

Whatever I buy, YES it will be the new music..no candles, no tshirts, no bullshit. New music still works for me.

Not sure how you can judge it if I don't buy it! I'll be interested what comes from the trail end...TRC, Musicology, and now 3121.
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Reply #20 posted 01/12/06 10:38pm

kpowers

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Only if this is the last cd prince makes.
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Reply #21 posted 01/12/06 10:39pm

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PurpleRein said:

No, but this is my last Mick post that I will read.

love it!!!!!
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Reply #22 posted 01/13/06 12:18am

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toejam said:

What we don't realise now, is that there is probably (hopefully!) a huge new breed of Prince fans that had their first Princely experience during the Musicology era. They're just starting out on their journey without even realising it. In 5 years time, the org will be full of them... "Musicology was the greatest album and tour he ever did... his new alum ____ is crap compared to Musicology"!!



I think this is SPOT ON... I had an employee several years my junior that thought Batman and D&P were the best albums Prince had ever done, he heard them in his mid-teens...he had no real interest in prior 80's work or later stuff and couldn't be bothered to even watch Purple Rain.
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Reply #23 posted 01/13/06 12:28am

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The only time I've been turned off by Prince is by "Sister" when I read the lyrics. Other tham that, I love all of his music, even his new stuff. I love his unique style, so I love his music. All of it. Yes, I even like Te Amo Corazon. He's a genious and we may never fully appreciate that genious.
Don't hurt me, I'm a newb. I'm supposed to be stupid.
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Reply #24 posted 01/13/06 12:46am

Novabreaker

I always buy his albums, just because he meant so much to me when I was younger. But it took me almost a year to buy "Musicology" as an official release, so I guess time's are a-changin' bit.
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Reply #25 posted 01/13/06 12:01pm

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my last Prince album
was Batman

though I do enjoy Diamonds & Pearls
and I bought it
I don't have any of his other shit
and that's by CHOICE
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because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #26 posted 01/13/06 6:08pm

Jackeblu

i'll never stop buying new Prince albums. However, right now, I not that interested in the new one...its the 1st time I can say that since Come & the official Black Album was released. I was totally out of Prince at that time that I didn't know these were released until months later. I was bored with the Symbol album and Beautiful Girl in the World and moved on.

THEN I heard Gold Experience and I fell back into his stuff again with gusto. But now, with Te Amo sounding so ORDINARY I am not counting down the days like I used to. But I am hoping I get surprised again with 3121...but I am certainly not holding my breath.
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Reply #27 posted 01/13/06 6:57pm

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i will still end up getting them, but i hardly care anymore. rainbow children and musicology kinda made me see that i am just not that into new prince anymore...
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #28 posted 01/13/06 8:21pm

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NEVER. although he did lose it for me a bit(not all) but some small parts of the 90's but that was because of the changes etc but now i appreciate and love all of them and everything he does, cuz ive realize how lucky we are to have him release album after album and continue touring etc
FUNKNROLL! dancing jig "February 2014, wow". 'dre. nod
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Reply #29 posted 01/14/06 10:56am

luv4all7

HELL NO! I'm a lifer!

Whether I love or loathe his last albums doesn't mean I'm not gonna pick up the new one the second it hit's stores!

Prince intrigues me, he's like a good book, I can't put him down, and I'm dying to see what he'll say next.

No way, no matter how bad he may get (not saying he will) I WILL ALWAYS BUY HIS ALBUMS!
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