NPGMC: Xenophobia Update - Friday
Due 2 logistical problems with the crew getting the gear up and then back 2 Paisley Park, the show at The Orpheum Theatre on Friday night is being moved back 2 Paisley Park. We will honor all tickets already purchased from Ticketmaster 4 the Friday night show at Paisley Park. Plans r underway as we speak 2 accomodate everyone. Sorry 4 any inconvenience.

Love4oneanother,
The NPG Music Club

How come I never got this email?

Many issues:

1. If these "plans" that "r underway" are no different than accommodations for people during the rest of the week, then these Orpheum shows (who knows what will happen to Thursday's show) will indeed look like a ploy to pry money away from members who didn't buy passes, as well as members of the general public. And the "sold out" thing just doesn't hold water.

2. How can people who paid upwards of $150 be accommodated at Paisley Park as comfortably as seating in a theater?

3. How will members receive priority seating/admission at this event? Two lines? That soundstage is big but not as big as a theater that seats 2,000 people.

4. How many tickets were sold? Can anyone figure out an estimate based on what kind of tickets remain still available?

5. How difficult is it to get the gear back to Paisley in time for soundchecking/rehearsing Saturday's show, which being billed as a "pajama party" promises to start well into the night/morning? Unless something is/was being planned for Friday night after the "concert" proper.

6. Why would logistical problems affect the Friday show but not the Wednesday show, which would seem to be more logistically challenging since it is sandwiched between two nights at Paisley?

7. If it were the Sheila E. show, those tickets would have gone in seconds.

On the flipside:

1. Perhaps the gear does need to be back at Paisley as soon as possible for Saturday's show... or maybe some late night jamming on Friday.

2. One can only wish at this point for some miraculous organizational and logistical genius to be at work at Paisley Park to accommodate ticket holders and pass holders in a way that will be fair to everyone involved.

Mhm mhm mhm (shaking head back and forth).

Prince is fucking up again...who runs this shit? the enron executives? so unprofessional

No no no no no no no!!!

Why doesn't this surprise me? Can't they get their shit together once and for all??

Wonder if this is cause they aren't selling any tickets?

..or they didn't sell as many tickets as they thought they would? Prince & Co fucked up again? Imagine that...

straight to the moon, alice, straight to the moon...

that messed up...Prince can't even sell out the Orpheum..in his own HOME TOWN..nonetheless...LMAO

I can probably guess THAT'S the reason for the move!!!

NuPower, I agree completely

-The Orpheum venue site says seats approx 2300 ppl.
-When I bought tix, for $271 mind you, for the Orpheum show, it took me about 20 mins to get them. I got 2 balcny seats for the $125 price(near front)
which means in about an hour, based on the available seats, they would've sold close to 1500 tix or more. That's a low estimate
-I went the 1st year, there's no way pp can hold 1500 or more people.
-Unless he holds the concert outside--"aint no way".

Vashti said:

that IS the reason...logistical problems, my ass...who do they think they're FOOLING? lol

joeycoco said:

thats exactly what happened.moving gear is not a problem.
oh yeah,somebody please record these shows!thank you

-my friends in minneapolis said they hadn't seen any ads for this show at all. I had to tell them about the concert.
-they could still sell it out with 1 or 2 local ads.

i love PRINCE but DAMN...its like one day before people are gonna be flying to mpls. why is shit so backwards??? DAMN !

Such cynicism from all of you! Does anyone really feel that these last minute changes were decided on a whim? Did I actually read that some feel the move back and forth from Paisley to the Orpheum then back to Paisley was an effort to make more money from members who didn't buy weeklong passes? With "fans" like these, who needs actual detractors? How sad!

Others believe he's moving it back to Paisley because of inadequate ticket sales? I doubt it. Didn't one post here indicate that they probably sold more than 1500 tickets in the first hour alone?

Why do people here at the org always try to use ticket sales (or record sales) to invalidate the effort that Prince puts into his music, or in this case, the Celebration? Ridiculous org-whiners!

In fact, the real concern will likely be that too many tickets were sold for a performance that will now be held at Paisley. For that, I imagine that Prince is not pleased. You see, I actually believe that he performs his music with the hope and expectation that guests enjoy themselves.

I desperately hope that Prince never visits this site! It's embarrassing at times. Someday I'd like to go to a Celebration. Hopefully he won't stop these special weeklong parties because of the ingrates who conspire to complain about every imperfect detail.

Wah wah wah... bitch bitch bitch... what a tragedy.

I'm a little bitter (JUST A LITTLE) about not going.

Can't you tell?

thechronic said:

ROFFLMAO.. oh yes..

Nu , excellent points. Especially,
6. Why would logistical problems affect the Friday show but not the Wednesday show, which would seem to be more logistically challenging since it is sandwiched between two nights at Paisley?

psychodelicide said:

OH, and here's teh icing on the cake.. this WAS NOT EMAILED.. it was only posted on the site so far..

I use to love Prince dearly and respect him as a person and a musician. Well let me tell you for the last two weeks I have been very disappointed in him and tonight I am fed up with him.

I have NO respect left for this man at all. I mean he is greedy, that is SO obvious from all of the changes during the last week. I for one do NOT believe this has anything to do with logistical problems. I agree with LCD, logistical problems, MY ASS!! Sorry, but I am pissed. What kind of noise is this. His plan backfired and he didn't sell as many tickets as he wanted so now lets move it back to Paisley.

Damn people wake up and smell the coffee, I tried to tell you this a week ago.

First of all this Celebration wall promoted as MEMBERS ONLY. Therefore, if anyone wanted to go, you had to pay $100 to join the club if you were not a member already.

Then we were asked HOW MUCH WOULD WE PAY FOR 7 NIGHTS OF PRINCE PERFROMING AT PAISLEY PARK. We answered that email,and I think the NPGMC should have had a price already set for a ticket instead of asking us. That was just another ploy to see the top dollar we would pay.

Then a week or so before the Celebration he decides to move two nights to the Orpheum due to popular demand, Maceo and Musique. But then neither of those artists were billed at the Orpheum shows, ONLY PRINCE.

So Prince then decided he wanted to make more money and would sell tickets to these shows for $88-$125 each. Also, he wants to sell aditional day and evening passes to ANYONE that shows up. So forget the people that might have orginially paid $100 to join the club just to go to the Celebration right?

PRINCE YOU NEED TO WAKE UP TOO!!!

You do NOT respect your fans at all,because if you did you would not pull this sort of stuff. Also, whoever is running this Celebration is NOT doing a good job at all. This has been very UNORGANIZED and UNPROFESSIONAL!

Flame away if you want. But at least I said exactly what I think and feel.

YoungandBeautiful said:

theC this is the first post that i have seen with some fire behind it. i miss gd.

Sorry theC, I wouldn't call it fire, however; I would call it COMPLETE HONESTY.

Beautiful...I take it you're not happy with the recent change of plans? lol Excellent points, you!

Btw...drive safely and enjoy yourself while you're there.






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[This message was edited Wed Jun 19 20:08:08 PDT 2002 by AzureStar]

Thank you Azure. It's not that I disapprove of it being moved back to Paisley. I disapprove of his tactics and he is NOT an honest man at this point. That is my opinion, he really does need to do so deep soul searchin. I hope he never goes broke, because the almighty dollar sure is something he is very fond of.

I'd rather be poor and honest, then greedy and and NOT being able to see the truth or tell the honest truth.

What about the people that paid $125 for the Orpheum concert and expected to sit and be comfortable. I mean $125 for ONE Paisley concert sounds a bit much. If he was a decent honest man, he would refund the $125 or whatever amount was paid for the Orpheum tickets and admit those people into Paisely Park Friday night for $35 each. This is how it breaks down for each of the 7 nights at PP for the purchase of one $250 ticket.

So he scammed the fans that really wanted to go and missed out on purchasing a ticket. Now they paid $125 to go into Paisley? Does this sound right? I don't think so.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 19 20:21:39 PDT 2002 by YoungandBeautiful]

YoungandBeautiful said:

No, it doesn't. I wasn't disagreeing with you.

Now, why can't I post in the for sale/trade forum?! I just tried to two times and it's not showing up! Argh!


Never mind..I just read the FAQ's.


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[This message was edited Wed Jun 19 20:23:28 PDT 2002 by AzureStar]

I mainly feel sorry for people who paid $125 for a ticket for the Orpheum and they are now seeing a show at Paisley Park with no where to sit, and no guarantee their spot will be any better than someone who only paid for an $88 ticket. You know damn well the nightly "overflow" passes the rest of the nights of the celebration will not be this price. Living in Mpls and having seen him at the Park for free several times, there's no way in HELL I'd pay $125 to see him at the Park. No way. They better be offering at least partial refunds to those who spent that amount. It's ludicrous.

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[This message was edited Wed Jun 19 20:23:39 PDT 2002 by AzureStar]

Girl, I didn't think you were disagreeing with me. However, if you did or do it's fine with me. lol

I just starting thinking more and the rest of that came out. I need to calm the hell down. I'm not going to sleep tonight.

lol...I do also think it has a little to do with his decision making skills, too. But, ya nevah know!

You're leaving in the morning, right?

YoungandBeautiful said:

Whoops! You beat me to it in expressing my point!