okay, here's my take on this oft-asked question: any established artist has the ability to spoot out as many #1 singles/albums/projects as they can. it's just a matter of two things:
1) if their back's against the wall 2) if they put their mind to it ...the question here should be simply why? | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: okay, here's my take on this oft-asked question: any established artist has the ability to spoot out as many #1 singles/albums/projects as they can. it's just a matter of two things:
1) if their back's against the wall 2) if they put their mind to it ...the question here should be simply why? So you're implying that as an artist, Prince isn't hungry anymore? | |
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brothaluv said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: okay, here's my take on this oft-asked question: any established artist has the ability to spoot out as many #1 singles/albums/projects as they can. it's just a matter of two things:
1) if their back's against the wall 2) if they put their mind to it ...the question here should be simply why? So you're implying that as an artist, Prince isn't hungry anymore? he really doesn't need to be hungry. if you've proven to yourself and whoever else what you're all about and that you definitely can do the do, you needn't starve anymore. | |
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I hope NOT ,most music sucks these days and the ppl that judge and decide on #1 CD's have no clue what is really good anymore.. | |
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Isn't Prince gay or something? | |
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AsianBomb777 said: Isn't Prince gay or something?
ain't nobody told you to come over to the grown folks' table. | |
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brothaluv said: I doubt it, but I hope so. All Prince really needs is another rock single like Lets Go Crazy. But he's too smitten with this jazz/funk stuff now.
He's a boring old man now, that's why. He'd rather jam with Maceo and Larry than someone with young blood and personality. | |
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Maybe if he makes another Movie or SOUNDTRACK FOR a BLOCKBUSTER Film. | |
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this isn't a cut or "diss" against prince but here's two takes on the "number one" thing:
Opinion #1-me (an orger) my answer is YES.he can make a #1 album(should he choose to) the man's still got it and i think his best times are ahead of him. Opinion #2-from a non orger their answer is NO. explanation: "it's not that prince can't meet the artistic standards of the american consumer.the american consumer,on the whole can't meet PRINCE'S standards." | |
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Prince has got to take a gamble and come out with some music no one else has ever done before. It will either hit like 1999 and "Sign O' The Times" did. Or it will fail miserably. I think he has at least one more number one album left in him. | |
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Christopher said: JBK said: He should come to Europe and cut an album with european musicians. i just wish he'd lose the jazzfunk thing hes had for a good while now. I do think that there is something in the way of a new direction coming. | |
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avatarfunk said: this isn't a cut or "diss" against prince but here's two takes on the "number one" thing:
Opinion #1-me (an orger) my answer is YES.he can make a #1 album(should he choose to) the man's still got it and i think his best times are ahead of him. Opinion #2-from a non orger their answer is NO. explanation: "it's not that prince can't meet the artistic standards of the american consumer.the american consumer,on the whole can't meet PRINCE'S standards." Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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Zelaira said: Maybe if he makes another Movie or SOUNDTRACK FOR a BLOCKBUSTER Film.
Heh. Imagine that. Ooh, little darlin' if you're
free 4 a couple of hours (Free 4 a couple of hours) If U ain't busy 4 the next 7 years (Next 7 years) Say, let's pretend we're married and go all night | |
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If he really want he can make a no1 album anytime again. it´s on him. | |
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Anyone with doubts about Prince's ability to jam should've seen that televised duet between him and Beyounce. It was phenomenal! Prince knows how to make a hit, but he lacks the will or incentive to do so. I hope he does something soon. | |
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LOVEandLIGHT said: Prince's next album could very well be #1.
Musicology debuted #3 with only one concert added to the sales. If that one concert hadn't been added, he still would have debuted at #3 on Billboards Top 200 Albums Chart. So that goes to show that he still is capable of selling a cool 100-200,000 copies in his first week. The only thing is, he would need to promote, promote, promote and have a killer single...A pop-friendly single! The song doesn't have to be an instant hit...because alot of artist are releasing shitty lead singles and still go to #1. With Prince...he's already got the name, his entire career to look back on...how much success and how many hits he's had...People will flock to the stores to buy it...if there is a strong BUZZ! For example!!! Premiere the first single on a highly rated show. Perform the single on a highly rated show. Release the video to Mtv, VH1, BET and all the other music tv networks -the following week with much hype! Appear on Mtv T-R-L to air the video. Throw a big prime time bash and televise it (internet also)...remember the "EMANCIPATION" Broadcast...but before that...go on NBC Dateline with Matt Lauder (an old friend)...Talk about the success of Purple Rain in 1984 and the success of Musicology in 2004...showing clips from the sold out shows and fan mania. Also talk about his new found happiness in L.A. with wife Manuela...The New Music and the future of Prince. *Oprah -play 2 new songs and 1 previous hit! *Good Morning America -Performs new single! *Dave Letterman -1st time Interview;plus a performance! *Play some clubs in L.A & NYC (surprise gigs)! *Jay Leno -Interview & Performance! *Cover Story for Rolling Stone Magazine! *Commericials air for the new album on Radio & TV! *NPGMC Listening Party! (Open to the public) All this before the album is released and I gurantee a #1 album! www.newpowerdetroit.com Insatible Saturday 12/10/05 You have it mapped out IMO, Prince can have another #1 album if he uses conventional means to release and promote his music. I don't think he is hung up on getting another #1 as we define it because of his independeance and his ability to make a nice living without being paid less than .10 cents on the dollar (we all know that how he views himself as a businessman these days.) His WORLDWIDE die-hard is where he is and when he wants to reach the masses he simply partners for distribution - but the marketing machine is still lacking. So just think of what he could do with a full, all out production deal for two albums. There is your #1 album there | |
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avatarfunk said: the american consumer,on the whole can't meet PRINCE'S standards."
no way, the american public is willing to be challenged. sure, it might be harder then it used to be but they still do. look at the hit that is neil diamonds new album. radiohead are consistent sellers. the tv show Lost. Space for sale... | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: brothaluv said: So you're implying that as an artist, Prince isn't hungry anymore? he really doesn't need to be hungry. if you've proven to yourself and whoever else what you're all about and that you definitely can do the do, you needn't starve anymore. but how do you know prince has done all that he wants? Space for sale... | |
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Probably he could also do say SOME LIVE ALBUM or an ACOUSTIC Album besides a MOVIE SOUNDTRACK. He could either RELEASE say stuff from this MUSICOLOGY tour such as PROMOTING like it's a PURPLE RAIN LIVE album or hearing NEW ACOSTIC songs and him doing an UNPLUGGED kinda show to PROMOTE it. [Edited 11/28/05 5:16am] | |
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vainandy said: There's two ways Prince can have a number one album in this day and time.
1. He can resort to tricks to increase his sales like including the price of the new album in his concert ticket. 2. He can strip his music down to a sample over a midtempo hip hop beat. That wouldn't be enough though. These music buyers today don't like an individual look either. He also would have to cut his hair and either be bald or wear it natural and low. Hell, he could wear baseball caps all the time too. He also would need to take off the makeup and heels and put on a damn football jersey and some big-leg jeans and sneakers. In other words, look like all the other fools. It wouldn't matter if Prince went in the vault and released the best album he has. These music buyers today have no taste and they wouldn't buy it. Agree!! The general public wants a fast snack,a big Mac and won't take the time 2 dine at a fine and good restaurant,where U get the change 2 experience something different and fine. I like some big Mac sometimes,life can be fun,but I still want 2 sit down at a table and enjoy a great meal cooked with knowledge. Sorry, I'm hungry Love4oneanother | |
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Paisley4u said: vainandy said: There's two ways Prince can have a number one album in this day and time.
1. He can resort to tricks to increase his sales like including the price of the new album in his concert ticket. 2. He can strip his music down to a sample over a midtempo hip hop beat. That wouldn't be enough though. These music buyers today don't like an individual look either. He also would have to cut his hair and either be bald or wear it natural and low. Hell, he could wear baseball caps all the time too. He also would need to take off the makeup and heels and put on a damn football jersey and some big-leg jeans and sneakers. In other words, look like all the other fools. It wouldn't matter if Prince went in the vault and released the best album he has. These music buyers today have no taste and they wouldn't buy it. Agree!! The general public wants a fast snack,a big Mac and won't take the time 2 dine at a fine and good restaurant,where U get the change 2 experience something different and fine. I like some big Mac sometimes,life can be fun,but I still want 2 sit down at a table and enjoy a great meal cooked with knowledge. Sorry, I'm hungry please dont take this personal but im greeting really tired of this "general public equals ashley simpsons" defense we here at the org propogate. its right up there with "haters all want purple rain part 2". theres a small amount of truth but its totally blown of of proportion just to justify prince's current situation (ie, lack of attention.) how in the world do bands like green day, white stripes, fran ferdenand, neil diamond, john legend, aimee mann, kate bush and others have critically praised albums and decent commercial success if there wasnt an interest in them? pop music is pop music and there has always been an element of crap that comes along with it. sure, mtv only consentrates on fluffy teen stuff but sometimes we act like mtv has been around for 100 years. sure theres a lot of crap out there in music right now..but the internet has also made it very easy to find quality work too. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: he really doesn't need to be hungry. if you've proven to yourself and whoever else what you're all about and that you definitely can do the do, you needn't starve anymore. but how do you know prince has done all that he wants? ain't gotta know...it's quite obvious, if you've paid attention. | |
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why is this even an issue? Prince shut everybody up last year with Musicology. Everyone had written him off as a nice nostalgia act who could only play 20 year old hits for the rest of his career. Prince whipped some ass last year and reminded everyone who is still in charge in this motherfucker. | |
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sonofblade said: why is this even an issue? Prince shut everybody up last year with Musicology.
not quite. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: sosgemini said: but how do you know prince has done all that he wants? ain't gotta know...it's quite obvious, if you've paid attention. well, thats your personal opinion on the issue...am i not free to have my own take on things? so to me, its not quite obvious.. on the contrare. we have prince hanging out with wendy and lisa again....jamming at his new pad w/ new folks. something gives me the impression that he has an axe to grind again. now, are you going to burst my bubble and say that im just not paying attention? or are you going to let me enjoy my style of fandom? [Edited 11/29/05 8:34am] Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: ain't gotta know...it's quite obvious, if you've paid attention. well, thats your personal opinion on the issue...am i not free to have my own take on things? so to me, its not quite obvious.. i don't see why it isn't. on the contrare. we have prince hanging out with wendy and lisa again....jamming at his new pad w/ new folks. something gives me the impression that he has an axe to grind again.
if i were to have lynda barry over at my house, or an entire smattering of other cartoonists over, it doesn't automatically warrant that i'd be doing something. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said:[quote] sosgemini said: i don't see why it isn't. on the contrare. we have prince hanging out with wendy and lisa again....jamming at his new pad w/ new folks. something gives me the impression that he has an axe to grind again.
if i were to have lynda barry over at my house, or an entire smattering of other cartoonists over, it doesn't automatically warrant that i'd be doing something. i just dont get why you must rain on folks parade. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: if i were to have lynda barry over at my house, or an entire smattering of other cartoonists over, it doesn't automatically warrant that i'd be doing something. i just dont get why you must rain on folks parade. [babs was here] in order to understand any sorta semblance of sunshine, you gotta stand in the rain for a bit. | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: sosgemini said: i just dont get why you must rain on folks parade. [babs was here] in order to understand any sorta semblance of sunshine, you gotta stand in the rain for a bit. huh? but back to the subject at hand, did prince not say about his reuniting with wendy, "im looking for things to juice me up?" or something like that? now, since we are dealing with opinions and perceptions your view isnt any more important then mine or anyone else. so dont even try to say you know prince so intimitally that you can speak on his behalf, cause none of us do. so my take on that comment and his actions of late gets me to believe something other then what you do, aint diversity and individual thought great? Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: in order to understand any sorta semblance of sunshine, you gotta stand in the rain for a bit. huh? think about it. but back to the subject at hand, did prince not say about his reuniting with wendy, "im looking for things to juice me up?" or something like that?
it doesn't exactly mean something's gonna happen, automatically or otherwise, with him and the girls. some people have the tendency to take statements such as those to heart straightaway, instead of just kinda hanging back. now, since we are dealing with opinions and perceptions your view isnt any more important then mine or anyone else. so dont even try to say you know prince so intimitally that you can speak on his behalf, cause none of us do.
--now hold riiiiight on that. you don't have to know someone personally if you've paid enough attention to how they operate and tune in a bit. never all the way, because you'll never get every single thing, but just at least enough to glean off of the basics. edits awaaaaay! [Edited 11/29/05 9:36am] | |
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